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kiki blue -> RE: Full human toilet?? (8/26/2004 8:54:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: bobbeme
If you ever licked an asshole, then you have a taste for shit. No matter how well someone may wash it, it is still there.


The anus is often cleaner than your mouth. There's only excement in there before and during a bowel motion, otherwise it's just twiddling its proverbial thumbs.

Unless you have some problems with your bowel movements, if you've cleaned the area (say, during a shower) and someone licks it, then they shouldn't be tasting excremement.

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Don't believe me, well stick your finger in your shit for a few minutes, wash it as well as you like, smell it, and it you have the nerve, taste it.


I think most of us can smell it fine without sticking our fingers into it.




bobbeme -> RE: Full human toilet?? (8/31/2004 10:22:32 AM)

Trust me, it tastes just like it smells.




BlkMSubneedsspnk -> RE: Full human toilet?? (9/20/2004 9:18:31 AM)


I agree with you Goddess. But being one who believes in good hygiene, scat play and golden showers/watersports is not my cup of tea. To me, if a dom/domme feels a need to use the bathroom, then they should go there instead of urinating or defacating on a submissive. But then, that's my own opinion, right?




BBWinNH -> RE: Full human toilet?? (12/25/2004 5:23:24 AM)

Hepatitis C is NOT transmitted through body waste unless the infected person/giver has blood in their waste.




RealityFix -> RE: Full human toilet?? (12/26/2004 8:20:38 AM)

A big part of what the body voids out of the bowels is dead blood cells.

You want to tell me how hep c is NOT going to be present in scat from someone who has it then?




LadyJill -> RE: Full human toilet?? (12/27/2004 12:31:59 AM)

I have a response and with a devils advocate view. I personally perform scat and enjoy it a blantant form of devotion...I used to have a weekely analysis on My site and I will join this one and post My findings.

Supreme Cuisine -Scat Play



Under a toilet chair, wrapped tightly in a rubber body bag lays a human waste orifice. One part of the bound slave wants to deny the taboo waste products being given and the other is thankful of the powerful Domina that will allow them this special gift-a gift from the depths of the cherished woman that has complete control over the slave. If the feces are held in the mouth, it may prove the toilet slave's ultimate loyalty and humility to the desired top. If the feces are swallowed, perhaps they can become part of the desired Goddess and the brown treasure mesh with their own being. Scat play is an exceedingly misunderstood, incredibly intimate and highly specified desired fetish. For most people, it is an awkward and dark obsession to speak about in public, let alone privately for fear of personal rejection, disgrace and shame.

No, I am talking about the jazzy voice of `Louis Armstrong and his "Heebie Jeebies"! Coprophilia is a medical term used to describe someone who receives sexual pleasure or gratification from playing with shit or watching defecation. The act has been recorded for ages and several historians have enjoyed or participated in some forms of scat play. The insertion of dried feces in the vagina was even incorporated as part of birth control in ancient Egypt. Not all people agree with the health and sanity of this rare interest and a majority of individuals absolutely will not partake in an activity that entails scat play. Even for a majority of different s/m communities that are open to a broad spectrum of deviant behaviors, scat play is unacceptable. My personal responses to these reactions is everyone is different and if both consenting parties agree and are aware of the health risks involved, then by all means poo away.

Once the thought of parental-learned filthiness and grossness of shitting departs, one can open their mind to the understanding of why someone would have the passion or eroticism of feces. We are taught from a very early age that shit is unpleasant, odorous and should be done in private therefore to overcome this inhibition in itself can be a powerful turn-on. It can be very disturbing for someone to release himself or herself in front of another person. Most individuals who partake in serious [key word is serious] scat play are sane people that have researched into their fetish and understand the different concepts behind the act. Usually they are misconstrued as to being crazy or mentally ill in some way thus creates a challenge to find a partner to engage in shit play.

Also, to have a successful session with scat, I believe the top must have personal enjoyment in defecation play. The humiliation aspect of defecating on another human can be very empowering for a dominant and seeing their slave being completely degraded by relieving their bowels over the person adds to the personal feeling of absolute power. Sometimes just the suggestion or threat of scat can satisfy the fetish. For the bottom to know that the dominant received pleasure from forcing the bottom to ingest or smear the shit on the slave's body is sometimes more important to the slave than the physical act of being the toilet. The emotional closeness can send feelings to excited heights by viewing or reveling one of the ultimate taboos with another person. It is for this reason why this particular act can be very intimate and private for those involved.

Feces are mostly composed of water, indigestible fibers, bacteria, bile, parasites, and dead red blood cells. Scat play is not an activity to be taken lightly either because what is bad for your body comes out along with the objects of desire. Some of the passable diseases associated with shit are hepatitis A, hepatitis B, hepatitis C, Shigella, Giardia and E. coli 0157:H7. A parasite called cryptosporidium, which is in human and animal feces is one of the most dangerous water contaminants for people with weak immune systems. The continuing possibility of HIV passage is ever present as well. Therefore, if your top has a disease, virus or parasite, it can be passed to you so, know the dominant or partner's health status and medical history. Being a human toilet for your dominant may be a great experience for you but before you flop right down and open your mouth remember one thing-the end result will be your health and maybe a shot of antibiotics will not save your life.




Oralfetish -> RE: Full human toilet?? (12/28/2004 3:25:21 PM)

can you show me those links...




srahfox -> RE: Full human toilet?? (12/28/2004 5:29:43 PM)

I personally find no apeal in golden showers or scat. That having been said, I don't care if anyone esle does it. If you like to be shat upon (Or in) and there is someone out there who is the compliment to you... but all means have fun. Hopefully both parties know all the risks involved. I always find it very... amusing to read posts like this and to see people posting about how wrong and dangerous it is. Well, duh. How much of SM is dangerous? Really? Even your everyday kind of bondage can go wrong. (Ever read Geralds Game?) I really don't understand how anyone on a web site like this can condem anyone else for what they want to do. As long as it's something all parties want and agree on... what's the harm to anyone else? If you don't like it, don't do it.
Easy huh?




GoddessJules -> RE: Full human toilet?? (12/28/2004 5:31:30 PM)

***STANDING OVATION***

Very well said srahfox [;)]




srahfox -> RE: Full human toilet?? (12/30/2004 5:42:11 PM)

Well, thank you Goddess. I wasn't expecting that, I just thought I ought to put my two cents in. Let the people into Scat and Goldenshowers know not everyone who isn't into it condems them.




Sweeticing -> RE: Full human toilet?? (12/31/2004 5:44:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: knees2you

hello, i'm just wondering??? as my mind is drifting off[&:]. why would a Domm or Domme talk about safe limits and discretion with a sub, if they where using them or wanting to use them as a full human toilet.
and if there looking for 24/7 the sub wouldn't be around very much
if he was being defficated all the time???

To answer the above question . Even a 24/7 relationship has to have safe limits and discretion. Just because the sub agrees to scant play they may have a limit such as not on there face.Or they do not want to be bondage during play.

Health is a issue You can get very sick from feces and piss expecially if it gets into your blood system. and yes that can happen just from digestion.even tiny abrasions or tears on the inside of your mouth or on your lips (or on any external part of your body) could allow the virus or bacteria to enter your blood stream and thereby infect you. Urinating on someone’s face can cause irritation to the eyes, nose, mouth, and skin. Urine can be acidic, as well as contain bacteria that can be harmful if it comes in contact with mucous membranes (like the eyes).
Regarding hygiene, let's return to the phrase "relatively sterile". While many sources will tell you urine is "sterile", end of story, this is not entirely accurate. Urine can actually pick a variety of bacteria as it exits the body through unwashed or infected genitalia. While this probably won't hurt you, it is rather icky, so the solution is to wash the area thoroughly and then collect the urine mid-stream. If you've ever had to give your doctor a urine sample, you've already practiced this technique. scant play brings up images of E.Coli and parasite infection. So while it may be fun to have a someone use you as a tolit I would recommend not getting it in your mouth. Also safer yet get wraped in plastic wrap first so nonething actually touches the skin.




subhubc -> RE: Full human toilet?? (12/31/2004 7:05:38 AM)

Having this type of play incorporated into our play and my devotion to her, I can tell you that it is a rare circumstance that you become ill. I really think that you have to be in a LTR and intimately familiar with the Domme's health, to get the margin of safety you need.

Learning not to vomit was the hardest part for me.




ProScatman -> RE: Full human toilet?? (1/20/2005 9:22:07 AM)

Thank you LadyJill: I have been into scat as far back as I can remember, and yes I've done a lot of research on the subject. LadyJill's discription is the closest I've ever seen in print except for my own rantings. Scat is a very sensual experience for me, and more so when I can find either a Domme or Vanilla lady whom I care enough for to want to do it with. I've read every post here on this, and as usual feel I am taking a chance by commenting on this subject, but then someone has to try and explain the rationalization for scat! I can not put into words the oneness I feel with a lady who is as turned on as I am about this practice. To my experience my chosen scat partners are conscious of their health, and will not engage in scat or golden if they are not feeling well! Some here have suggested scat play should only be done if you have been in a LTR with the person? Unfortunately for me , I can only be in one close relationship at a time, and therefore must be very careful whom I become a scat partner with. I can say I've never gotten sick from ingesting scat from a lover; not even GERD! And, I've also been told an anus is much cleaner than the inside of a mouth as far as bacteria are concerned. When I inquired of a priest what can be done between a man and woman I was told "As long as it doesn't offend your taste or smell and is mutually agreed upon it's ok". There are times I can identify with the Witches of Salem! When I first joined this site I noticed Dommes could pick from the mutiple choices that they were looking for someone for Full Toilet Service, but have found out this has been removed from those choices, and those who mention they are in search of someone in their profile find their profiles being denied. I feel sad that only here in discussion can one safely mention their interest in this subject. So it seems that it has been decided we may educate ourselves in scat play; while on the other hand doing our best to prevent others the freedom of choice once enjoyed here. Judge Not!




TSMUK -> RE: Full human toilet?? (9/21/2005 2:55:56 AM)

I HEAR THIS ALL THE TIME ABOUT SCAT AND THE RISK OF INFECTIONS, YET MANY MISTRESSES /MASTERS PRACTICE MORE DANGEROUS FETISHES THAT PUT THERE SLAVES AT RISK.
THE RISKS OF INFECTION THROUGH EATING SCAT IS VERY SLIGHT.

EATING SCAT IS AS SAFE AS EATING MEAT.
INFACT EATING A VEGANS TURD IS SAFER THAN EATING MEAT.




sweetpettjenny -> RE: Full human toilet?? (9/21/2005 3:10:12 AM)

Reading the post i never got the idea that she was determaining that it was not ok for others. she asked a question thats All
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ORIGINAL: SherriA

quote:

ORIGINAL: knees2you

why would a Domm or Domme talk about safe limits and discretion with a sub, if they where using them or wanting to use them as a full human toilet.


What you consider to be unsafe for you isn't necessarily what others consider to be unsafe for themselves. Feel free to avoid any kind of play that doesn't suit you, but you don't get to determine that for anyone else.

-- Sherri





JohnWarren -> RE: Full human toilet?? (9/21/2005 5:11:05 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: TSMUK

EATING SCAT IS AS SAFE AS EATING MEAT.
INFACT EATING A VEGANS TURD IS SAFER THAN EATING MEAT.


I have written in another notestream that the risks of coprophagy are somewhat overrated. For example the highly dangerous Escherichia coli 0157 is not found in the human digestive tract.

However, the quoted statement is disingenuous in the extreme. There are significant risk factors in coprophagy since other bacteria and viri are present.

[note to poster: Unless you are using a keyboard that has only upper case, you would be well advised to use conventional case protocol. This makes your message easier to read.]




TSMUK -> RE: Full human toilet?? (9/21/2005 5:29:30 AM)

Sorry i appologise for the capital letters.




biggjohnson -> RE: Full human toilet?? (10/6/2005 9:14:38 AM)

Sorry about dwelling on the whole West Nile thing but I live in Wyoming and i had West Nile when i was 17. It was absolutely the worst thing i have ever had in the world. I was in the hospital for three weeks and i was on antibiotics treating the virus for six months after that. Granted it was a fairly severe case. I would never just shrug off the threat of West Nile ever again. It was way worse than when i had Giardia ( sorry bout that botched spelling) and that was a horrible virus too. With that i wil say good bye everyone.


Oh yeah!!! I have 19 inches of snow at my house RIGHT NOW!!!




Hallittlelolita -> RE: Full human toilet?? (10/6/2005 10:15:43 AM)

That is just plain nasty[:'(] yuck[:@] that is all i have to say about that[:'(]

Sincerely andie and her Master Hal




Looken4Friendz -> RE: Full human toilet?? (10/9/2005 7:00:22 AM)

I personally think you people should stop talking shit... lol

If I ever get owned by a Femdom, and or Femme who wishes to use me as a full toilet, then so be it. Yes shit stinks, and yes it is nasty, but hell if She wants it, and it makes her happy, who am I to judge her?

I have drank piss once, with a Pro Domme I served for a month in NJ. I didn't get sick, but it wasn't a taste that I enjoyed. She was on all kinds of meds, and I do not wish to know what for, but I didn't end up with anything, and when I got home to Tennessee, I had all kinds of tests taken to make damn sure.

I think what two or more people do in the privacy of their own home, dungeon or where ever is between them and those they wish to involve. If someone wishes to be shit on, eat shit and or become a full toilet, then who is anyone to judge them, and or tell them its wrong. A dog eats shit, but no one makes a big deal out of that, and still you let it lick you're face, and it licks its ass, and balls and then licks you, and you love it. What is the difference?

Anyway....

[:D]




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