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MathewIndio -> Women Have So Much More Opportunity (3/16/2015 5:48:50 PM)

I go to a BDSM club and have several friends there. I was talking to a woman who was complaining about all the spam, fakes and perverts on dating sites. She showed me her account on match.com and her mailbox was flooded with men wanting to meet her. I looked at their profiles and they seemed like normal men. I asked her, "What about him?" "What about this guy?" She would say, "Eckk!! No!" "He looks creepy." With one swoop with her hand, she called them all creepy, pervs, etc. Including this site.

The reason women complain is because they don't give anyone a chance. I realize that a lot of men just want sex, but not all do. Many want an authentic relationship.

Don't you think that women have more OPPORTUNITY then men on dating sites?




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity (3/16/2015 5:54:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MathewIndio

I go to a BDSM club and have several friends there. I was talking to a woman who was complaining about all the spam, fakes and perverts on dating sites. She showed me her account on match.com and her mailbox was flooded with men wanting to meet her. I looked at their profiles and they seemed like normal men. I asked her, "What about him?" "What about this guy?" She would say, "Eckk!! No!" "He looks creepy." With one swoop with her hand, she called them all creepy, pervs, etc. Including this site.

The reason women complain is because they don't give anyone a chance. I realize that a lot of men just want sex, but not all do. Many want an authentic relationship.

Don't you think that women have more OPPORTUNITY then men on dating sites?


Absolutely but....they have tits.

You lose.

Next question?




MathewIndio -> RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity (3/16/2015 5:57:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie
Absolutely but....they have tits.

You lose.


Lol....




shiftyw -> RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity (3/16/2015 5:58:30 PM)

[8|]




HoneyBears -> RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity (3/16/2015 6:09:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

Absolutely but....they have tits.

You lose.

Don't forget, they also have 3 holes, and the one with the pussy RULES.

Quadruple loss, OP.

(Logging off now before my Mistress comes in here and smacks me upside the head.... Cub)




RockaRolla -> RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity (3/16/2015 6:17:38 PM)

Here's the thing. We don't have to give anyone a chance.

There is a lot to be said for intuition, especially if you play the game long enough and give enough guys a shot. You learn to be selective. Much more selective.

The issue isn't with assuming every guy wants sex and nothing more, but that the guys we run in to think a relationship should be handed to them because they're self proclaimed nice guys.




MathewIndio -> RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity (3/16/2015 6:30:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: RockaRolla

Here's the thing. We don't have to give anyone a chance.

There is a lot to be said for intuition, especially if you play the game long enough and give enough guys a shot. You learn to be selective. Much more selective.

The issue isn't with assuming every guy wants sex and nothing more, but that the guys we run in to think a relationship should be handed to them because they're self proclaimed nice guys.



I understand this but are you saying that 99% of the emails you receive are "nice guys who think a relationship should be handed to them?"




RockaRolla -> RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity (3/16/2015 6:35:31 PM)

Yes.

It became evident whenever I said "thanks, not interested."

"But WHY? You're wrong." Is the usual response if I'm lucky. Many turn hostile.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity (3/16/2015 7:05:23 PM)

Ya know....funny thing is, I've met and dated several fabulous Dommes from this site, all of which you'd imagine were unapproachable/impenetrable....and....they're just people....just like any of us guys ('cept they do have really, unbelievably, fine tits....and pussies), some of which have become incredible friends....some of which, even as they were fabulous...it just didn't work but....I never put the prurient first.

If you want a gig that works....do that and ease in but....if you want to win the day....do that and mean it....get to know them.

(They're just people....like you and me).

And....in 1 of 20 or so....you'll make a connection and...of those....1 of 20 will become meaningful.

If you want to get laid....go find someone that has the same desire (most will want money because well....you don't have amazing titties and a pussy)....it's like a rocks/paper/scissors thing.....

Except, dick never wins (unless they want it to...because....they have.......).





IcarusBurning -> RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity (3/16/2015 8:11:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RockaRolla

Yes.

It became evident whenever I said "thanks, not interested."

"But WHY? You're wrong." Is the usual response if I'm lucky. Many turn hostile.


despite being on the guy side of the fence i am aware of this to be very true. i think its sexy that a man stays off when a girl says "no". maybe i am just old school.

what i do find annoying, however, is women who dont even care to say "sorry i am not interested".




Kittenluv954 -> RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity (3/16/2015 8:35:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: IcarusBurning

quote:

ORIGINAL: RockaRolla

Yes.

It became evident whenever I said "thanks, not interested."

"But WHY? You're wrong." Is the usual response if I'm lucky. Many turn hostile.


despite being on the guy side of the fence i am aware of this to be very true. i think its sexy that a man stays off when a girl says "no". maybe i am just old school.



I totally won't message to tell someone I'm not interested anymore lol, I know better after years of being attacked, insulted, debated with, and invalidated to bother myself with it. I reply to those I'm interested in, delete those I'm not, and block the ones who can't accept that.

*edit* I have no clue how I messed up this quote. my reply was to icarusburning, re: women who don't reply to messages at all.




RemoteUser -> RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity (3/16/2015 8:41:47 PM)

I think opportunity eclipses too much. What should matter is what you want and what you offer. If it's unrealistic then your results will reflect that.

OP, you might find it easier to go with what works for you, and make that matter, than dwell on what doesn't. Otherwise, all the failures and encounters that make you wiser don't get the credit they deserve.




NookieNotes -> RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity (3/17/2015 1:06:02 AM)

opportunity
ˌäpərˈt(y)o͞onədē/
noun: opportunity; plural noun: opportunities
a set of circumstances that makes it possible to do something.

Something. That's a bit vague.

Let's look at my inbox, which, admittedly, has been slower than usual the past two weeks (I'm OK with that, LOL!):

Out of the past 100 messages (in just over two days):

8 from 3 men locally.
11 from friends.
6 from dominants who are ignoring that I'm dominant.
5 from men pretending to be switch or dom women.
14 from ONE man who still hasn't given up after I told him no and that I would never respond again over 4 months ago.

The rest are from men entirely unsuited in various ways that could be easily ruled out by reading my profile and/or long distance, which I don't do (and make clear on my profile), asking for everything from online services, skype, tribute (to me), and this gem (cut SHORT for brevity):

quote:

A DIFFERENT KIND OF T.P.E. SERVANT

Salutations to you as a professed dominant person, Couple are Family,

I pay my own way and do not expect my Employer/Owner to support me in any way whatsoever.

Thank you for taking the time out to review my profile information. Please be advised the pretentious and time wasting one liner nonsense respondent is not welcome thank you! I am that which I am and nothing other. I will not apologise to anyone for being who and what I am. one is certainly assertive in the pursuit of finding a suitable Dominant Lady Owner. I am otherwise compliant and slave like once owned. I do not obey anyone online are who is not committed to being my owner once we have met in person. A have observed that only a single figure percentage who frequent life style websites are actually what they claim to be in their profile. That is somewhat annoying and very frustrating. Some of us actually have a legitimate calling in life which is our vocation..I have made a concious choice to suspend all my human rights and civil liberties for life so that may better serve and obey once aquired by my legitimate employer/owner.

I do not partake of any illegal narcotics use, nor do I smoke tobacco are drink any Alcohol whatsoever. I have no history of any criminal record are psychiatric illness whatsoever.

I am seeking to be returned to my natural state of being and am willing to be owned by a single woman, female couple, or married couple of both genders. I am also happy to be owned by a family with children. It is my life and I have the legitimate right to choose between a life of complete freedom or a life of absolute irrevocable slavery and I choose the latter. This is not a fantasy game played to arouse or sexual libido it is a lifestyle existance of abstinance and servitude that we lead.. A slave is a useful beast but not a sensual lover for its owner. I need a owner who knows sex with a slave is morally wrong.

Profile Objective:

To enter into sensible, intelligent, mature dialogue with a genuine Dominant Women,concerning the possibility of her aquiring actual physical ownership of myself has her personal legitimate property. I miss the structure and discipline and the safe and secure environment that only slavery has ever given to me. it may seem strange to you but in mindset I am not really a human person but more akin to seperate hybrid species that exists for slavery. This is not some fanciful idea but a statement of fact. Anyone who owns me must and should treat me as such and never as being a human person.

Physical Apperarance :

Age: 40 years
Star Sign: Cancer
Height: 6 feet 3 inches
Hair Color: Brown
Eye Color: Blue
Build: Muscular
Chest: 42 inches
Waist: 34 inches
Hips: 38 inches
Penis: 5 inches flaccid (usually locked away)

Education and training:

High School Diploma
B.A.(Hons) History (part time study)
Catering Certificate
Gardening Certificate
Massage Diploma
Plumbing Certificate
Drivers License
MasseurDiploma

Belief System:

From the age of 4 years, I became aware of the fact that my thoughts and beliefs where radically different from my contempories. Over time I began to realise why this was so. I gradually accepted the fact that I was born with a genetic disposition for servitude. Moreover, I finally realised that I was a natural born slave and that my destiny lay in being owned has property in a consensual association. I researched the subject intensively and that confirmed beyond all doubt that which I was. I am not ashamed of being that which I am ,but rarther I am proud of being what I am. I seek no other lifestyle existance. I also believe quite genuinely that some special women or born to rule over and direct slave males such has myself who exist in order too enhance ,reward and fulfil the lifestyle experience of those special women. This has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with sexual gratification or perverse fantasy. I prefer to be celibate so that I can concentrate upon service oriented labor without the urge for sexual gratification or procreation.

I have permission from the following ladies to state their name has it is known in the lifestyle though not in their professional capacity.

Prior Legal Subject Association:

[Name removed at OP's request]

Lesbian Oriented
School Principal
[Location removed]
Irrevocable General Power of Attorney
7 years 4 months duration (21 to 28)
Chattal Bondage Subject

She had my back tattooed with the word slave and had my genitals locked away which the other owners continued.


She transfered my ownership for personal reasons to:-

[Name removed]

Bisexual Oriented
Clinical Psychologist
[Location removed]
Irrevocable General Power of Attorney/Adult Adoption Agreement
5 years 8 months duration (28 to 34)
Chatal Bondage Subject
She got married to a Physician and so transfered ownership to:

[Name removed]

Hetrosexual Oriented
Attorney at Law
[Location removed]
Adult Guardianship Order
2 years 6 months(died suddenly) (34 to 37)
Chattal Bondage Subject

All the above ladies are/where female supremacists who believed all males should be enslaved and owned has property by women. I have been free and without any owner for 7 years now and this is intolerable.


This went on for three times as long, and included three pictures of three different men (although somewhat similar). I replied:

quote:

This is NOT how to approach a lady. No thank you.

Best of luck.


To which I got the return:

quote:

Sure but you are no lady!


And was blocked. LOL!

So, opportunity? Sure, if all of these fall under "something."

Qualified leads, they ain't. *smiles*

To be clear: I am not complaining. I really don't mind all of this. If I did, I would simply stop. I'm just making a point.




DarkSteven -> RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity (3/17/2015 1:15:22 AM)

Matthew, you should have asked her why she thought the guys were creepy. Since you didn't, you simply assumed she was wrong, and my girlfriends RockaRolla and kittenluv assumed she was correct.




DaddySatyr -> RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity (3/17/2015 4:59:10 AM)


So ... "He looks creepy" is acceptable (even though you can't tell if someone is actually creepy, from looking at them) but ...

"She looks _________ (fat/skinny/old/young/unattractive/whatever)" is shallow?

I think I'm getting a handle on this, now.



Michael




Kittenluv954 -> RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity (3/17/2015 6:58:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


So ... "He looks creepy" is acceptable (even though you can't tell if someone is actually creepy, from looking at them) but ...

"She looks _________ (fat/skinny/old/young/unattractive/whatever)" is shallow?

I think I'm getting a handle on this, now.



Michael



no, it's preference. I'm tall, and I'm not skinny. if a man likes women under 5'5" and less than 125 lbs, he's entitled to his preference. I also don't read their preferences in their profiles, and write to them anyway to debate with them the joys of being with me over someone they are attracted to. just like I am entitled to say I don't even entertain a man for a moment if he's less than 6' tall. stop acting like all women are ok with having their preferences, but feel at the same time men aren't. we aren't all the collective of your horror stories, jus sayin.




shiftyw -> RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity (3/17/2015 7:45:12 AM)

This is the stupidest thread.

There are more men than women. Thusly we do have more opportunity. But this thread is instead calling all women shallow bitches.

Preferences are a thing, on both sides.

I have my actual weight in my profile- no one has ever read it. When I point it out they disappear. If I came into a message board and whined everytime id have a lot more posts than I do now.

Dating is hard, for everyone.

Does "he look creepy" because of the context of his photos? Or is your friend shallow and now you feel like all women are assholes?
Would you date someone who you were not physically attracted to? Should those girls feel lucky you're even talking to them?

I mean really.




dreamlady -> RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity (3/17/2015 8:05:50 AM)

Besides that slave not knowing how to approach a lady, I would have added that I was not filling a job position and hadn't asked for resumés. [8|]

I have to laugh over the "Irrevocable General Power of Attorney" which gets transferred around from owner to owner. It invokes the image of signing over the title to a used car with high mileage which keeps getting depreciated. [8D]

DreamLady




GoddessManko -> RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity (3/17/2015 8:09:37 AM)

Wow, honestly when a guy thinks women are wrong in their choices, that sends all kinds of flags waving for me. Like a friend who offered to hug me, I thought "wow, you must really want to be tased".
I have to say I have not received any terribly rude messages on the other side. I think I scare that type maybe. Honestly the guys who do contact me show a great deal of potential and I enjoy them overall. The weirdest encounter is a man who praises Superior/Supreme ladies and yet cannot get a collar and thinks he deserves "better". Whatever that means. Most boys are sweet but the competition is tough so I'm rooting for them and urge them to be proactive.




DesFIP -> RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity (3/17/2015 8:33:21 AM)

The fact that to the op, these guys came off as normal does not mean they didn't hit her creepometer. It means that unless a guy is over the top, the op will not be able to identify their behavior and picture as creepy.

Most men cannot identify creepy. OP, instead of denigrating your female friends for being cautious go read The Gift of Fear by Gavin Becker. Hopefully you will then understand why what appear as opportunity to you are threats to us. With sexual assault rates at 1 in 4, women must pick up on very small tells in order to stay safe.




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