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Steering this conversation back to the topic......(Hard to port!)
What your stating here really does come to the heart of the fallacy in the law: How do you tell someone is gay to refuse service to them?
Do they have the right to sue you civil court for damages if your wrong?
Refusing to serve gays is not the topic.
BULLSHIT Its the topic of the WHOLE DAMN THREAD.
To quote Kirata, "Maybe you should learn reading comprehension...".
If you having trouble understanding the basics of the thread, perhaps you should leave the more complicated stuff to the real adults.....
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The discussion seems to have centered on that, probably because of the now famous wedding cake brouhaha, but I think that focus is misplaced. The wedding cake issue had nothing to do with serving gays. The shop objected to playing a contributory role in the celebration of gay marriage. It would have made no difference if a heterosexual friend of the gay couple had been buying the cake for them. And there is no reason to think that the shop would have refused to serve a gay person purchasing a "traditional" cake for the wedding of heterosexual friends.
Let me state it.....AGAIN.....for the religiously moronic.....(in general and not anyone in particular)
If you have a business that serves the public, either your become professional or you get into the unemployment line. If some gay guy or lesbian chick wants something you sell, your selling it. If you dont want to sell it, you better come up with a REALLY GOOD EXCUSE. Particularly if they think your a bigot! Since their recording device might be out, specifically to show a civil court that your a discriminating bigot!
Atheist in businesses that operate to the public regularly serve Christians. They never seem to have a problem with it. Keeping their religious viewpoints to themselves. Its called BEING PROFESSIONAL. If the Atheist whom is also gay can be professional, why cant the Christian business person do the same? There some bible verse that prevents them from being an adult?
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I think the issue here is much wider. Many small townships are self-governing corporations. If the majority population of such a township professes a religion that forbids association with certain classes of people, can they pass a law against the latter owning property or residing within the corporation's boundaries? And on what basis could the government claim a compelling interest in substantially burdening such an exercise of religion? There are plenty of other places to live. Should "religious freedom" be trampled upon because obstinate people want to live where they're not wanted?
Nope, they cant. Tough nuggies! That there are small townships that are devoid of Christians (or just about). Are they allowed to refuse service to Christians? Of course not! If they are not allowed to refuse service to which they offer the general public, then its just as fair the Christian can not do the same. I dont know why this is a tough concept for your to understand. This stuff is elementary to myself; maybe its because I have that college education you envy, Kirata.....
The government is not forcing you to behave, but your fellow US Citizens. Last I checked, the 1st amendment is pretty clear on the establishment of concept: No one religion trumps all others. That bigotry among Christians is so high that it prevents them from using that lump three feet above their ass for something besides a paper weight!
Its ironic that non-Christians are usually more tolerant and professional than Christians in Indiana. Because if such Christians were; why the need for the law?
That law was passed for political points.
If you don't want to serve a group you lose their business and the business of those people offended by the policy. Self punishing behavior.
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