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Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 3/26/2015 3:07:17 PM   
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The Governor of Indiania, Mike Pence, signed into law a bill that allows businesses to refuse customers they think are gay, lesbian, bi-sexual, or even transgendered. While he tried to explain it as not being that; only those supporting the GOP/TOP would be dumb enough not to figure this out as being the wrong idea. Pushing religious dogma down the citizen's throats, it is now legal for a business to refuse to serve someone they think is homosexual. Likewise, means they can refuse....anyone....and later claim "I thought they were gay/lebsian/bisexual/transgendered". So that black guy whom is heterosexual, can be refused, right along with the combat veteran, blind/deaf person, and anyone not of the same religion (i.e. muslims).

All the business owner has to say is "I thought they were gay/lesbian/bisexual/transgendered."

This....*IS*....an example of tyranny! I expect all those Indianans whom have guns to immediately resist this law pass by both a state legislature and executive branches. Otherwise, we can cross that myth off the list of other firearm myths in the nation.

On a more serious note, how the FUCK does this get past the citizens? That I can see this law being used abusively onto US Citizens and even tourists. Right off the bat, two major groups have stated they will be moving their events eleswhere unless this law is purged: Gen Con and the Disciples of Christ church group. For those that dont know, Gen Con is like the 'Mecca of the Gaming World' (thing Comic Con, meets PAX East and Dungeon & Dragons). That is a HUGE amount of future tourist dollars being lost by area businesses.

The NCAA is also considering removing itself from this state. A major lost for students enrolled in area schools.

Gov. Pence is considered one of the possible 2016 contenders. This bill is help satisfy conservatives, that he is a 'defender of Christian freedom' (at the expense of all other religions and views of Christianity of others). Its a bill pushed for petty political points, not, solid and reasonable government. When signing the bill into law, Gov. Pence had this to say:

"The Constitution of the United States and the Indiana Constitution both provide strong recognition of the freedom of religion but today, many people of faith feel their religious liberty is under attack by government action..."

Yeah, if someone else's faith in philosophy or religion was not affected by gays, lesbians, bisexuals, and transgender person; how does this law help them? It doesn't. These people's religious viewpoints are irrelevant according to the Governor of their state!

He goes on to say:

"This was a measure that frankly, Indiana should have enacted many years ago. It gives our courts guidance about evaluating government action and puts the highest standard -- it essentially says, if a government is going to compel you to act in a way that violates your religious beliefs, there has to be a compelling state interest."

I wonder how the citizens of Indiana are enjoying that religious fanatical fascism they elected to public office? Maybe they should be a bit more careful...WHO....they elect to government, eh?

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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 3/26/2015 3:08:06 PM   
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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 3/26/2015 3:30:46 PM   
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a few quick things...

it might be helpful if you posted a link to the bill in its entirety for people to read.

a small point: the ncaa has its national headquarters in Indiana, the only possible loss for students enrolled in nearby colleges might have to do with some students doing internships there while also taking classes at the same time at their home schools. other than that, there is no direct effect on students in Indianapolis that im aware of, the ncaa can have its headquarters anywhere.

last thing, and to put it in a way that maybe you haven't asked yourself---so if providing a service to someone is in violation of a business' religious conscience, that's okay?

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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 3/26/2015 4:11:24 PM   
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This seems to be a fact-free topic so far, with lots of talk and not a single link to the actual bill.

The proposal is modeled on a 22-year-old federal law known as the Religious Freedom and Restoration Act. That law played a key role in the U.S. Supreme Court's decision that allowed Hobby Lobby and other closely held corporations with religious objections to opt out of an Affordable Care Act requirement that they cover certain contraceptives for women. Nineteen other states have adopted similar "religious freedom" laws, and several others are considering legislation. ~IndyStar

Oh noes, not a bill modeled on a federal statute that the Supreme Court has already upheld? Say it ain't so!

Digest of Indiana Senate Bill 101

Religious freedom restoration. Prohibits a governmental entity from substantially burdening a person's exercise of religion, even if the burden results from a rule of general applicability, unless the governmental entity can demonstrate that the burden: (1) is in furtherance of a compelling governmental interest; and (2) is the least restrictive means of furthering the compelling governmental interest. Provides a procedure for remedying a violation. Specifies that the religious freedom law applies to the implementation or application of a law regardless of whether the state or any other governmental entity or official is a party to a proceeding implementing or applying the law. Prohibits an applicant, employee, or former employee from pursuing certain causes of action against a private employer.

I haven't read it yet. But hey, what a concept, eh?

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I'll give a source to show where the information is originating from. So you can look at it, and determine for yourself if things are true and correct.

Covered that for ya. You're welcome.

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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 3/26/2015 4:14:57 PM   
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Where is Indiania?

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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 3/26/2015 4:18:39 PM   
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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 3/26/2015 4:19:59 PM   
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somewhere near Indonesia ? Or would that be Pomerania where all those pommies come from ?

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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 3/26/2015 4:20:06 PM   
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Where is Indiania?

I suspect that's where joether got his college degree.

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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 3/26/2015 4:21:02 PM   
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Yet another example of how religion ruins everything.

"religious freedom" exists solely between the ears of the person claiming it.


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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 3/26/2015 4:21:23 PM   
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We knew this kind of crap was coming after Hobby Lobby...sad but so they may get away with it.

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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 3/26/2015 4:23:13 PM   
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somewhere near Indonesia ? Or would that be Pomerania where all those pommies come from ?


being a pommie, I thought that was hysterical, altho arent you from luton?? grins

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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 3/26/2015 4:23:27 PM   
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I look forward to the 1st case where an Arab/Muslin-owned establishment denies service to a Jew or an Xian. Then we'll really see the caca hit the fan!



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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 3/26/2015 4:25:37 PM   
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quote:

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justs outside candiana

Which is just to the north of my home state, Minee-sotah!



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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 3/26/2015 4:26:16 PM   
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No, I am originally a Kentish Man but was dragged up in Luton for the first 8 years. I am now a naturalised Aussie, which means I have had half my brain removed and my vocal chords strengthened to industrial strength

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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 3/26/2015 4:26:26 PM   
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When you enact a law thats makes anyone second class citizens as a political ploy, you deserve all the bullshit you get thrown back at you.
Freedom....NOT in AMerica

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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 3/26/2015 4:27:34 PM   
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Minnee-sothaha.......................originally was going to be baptised as just minnee but the vicar got the giggles

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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 3/26/2015 4:29:16 PM   
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Luton is a great place to come from Lucy..................not a very good place to go TO but definitely a good place to come FROM !!

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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 3/26/2015 4:38:02 PM   
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Luton is a great place to come from Lucy..................not a very good place to go TO but definitely a good place to come FROM !!

Im from Watford, I know exactly what you are sayin!!!!

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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 3/26/2015 4:40:23 PM   
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I would much rather see genuinely GLBT-friendly businesses flourish than deal with business owners that don't appreciate my almighty dollar.

It always reminds me of that scene in Pretty Woman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu3x5SZrMHo

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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 3/26/2015 4:43:17 PM   
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I look forward to the 1st case where an Arab/Muslin-owned establishment denies service to a Jew or an Xian. Then we'll really see the caca hit the fan!



the store/business will get attacked by good 'onest chistians....how dare they come to murrica and refuse to serve us, !!!!splutter bloody moooozelems




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