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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

No...you don't get to mischaracterize my position .
I define my position,not you.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

No...you don't get to mischaracterize my position .
I define my position,not you.

You have stated that carrying outside of your home means you don't trust your fellow citizens and shows that you are not responsible.
You have never seen a cop shooting that you thought was justified.
What is there to misrepresent.
Funny, you think you can define my position, if you try to do that, you cede the right for me to do the same thing.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

No...you don't get to mischaracterize my position .
I define my position,not you.

You have stated that carrying outside of your home means you don't trust your fellow citizens and shows that you are not responsible.
You have never seen a cop shooting that you thought was justified.
What is there to misrepresent.
Funny, you think you can define my position, if you try to do that, you cede the right for me to do the same thing.

All caricatures of actual positions...but what the fuck do I care.
You ain't listening to me(obvioucsly) and I sure as hell ain't listening to you.....all we are really doing is entertaining (lamely) the viewing audience.
Have a great night

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Which was,in itself,a response IIRC to another of your caricature of my positions.
For instance that whole conversation was concerned with a man coming over for a barbecue with a gun....an argument I am not going to re-argue with you.
You are as inflexible in your position as I am in mine.
The difference is I admit it

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ORIGINAL: tj444

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

tj I don't want us arguing of how a problem is stated... If you are saying we need strict rules on deadly force...and increased training...and strict rules on racial profiling then we have nothing to argue over... But if you are condemning the million or so police over the actions of a few then I am with you and tweak as long as I can condemn all of Islam over the actions of a few...., otherwise i will continue to call you out on your prejudice.

Butch

I don't think cops should be shooting people in the back or if they are already on the ground with other officers subduing them.. or a swarm of cops beating the crap out of a suspect.. and a stop to racial profiling.. all of what cops do in the country has caused an extremely high distrust of them, and not just from blacks and hispanics.. I don't think that cops protecting the bad apples has done them any good either.. I question just how "few" the bad ones are.. especially when there are cover-ups..

I am not sure what Islam has to do with this.. I don't think I have ever commented on Islam..

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

I get to do that...he and you don't


edited to add: Here's my issue,I dramatized conversation between he and I,causeite frankly it sounded better in my head....the other issue is recalling exact quotes from a minor event five years ago is difficult at best,impossible at worst.
But the basic confrontation happened just as I detailed it and Bama still had a problem admitting that someone wearing a gun to a barbecue was a) wrong and b) an asshole for having done so.
Like I said,I'm not going to re-do that whole argument.....it is what it was and thats that.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

I get to do that...he and you don't


edited to add: Here's my issue,I dramatized conversation between he and I,causeite frankly it sounded better in my head....the other issue is recalling exact quotes from a minor event five years ago is difficult at best,impossible at worst.
But the basic confrontation happened just as I detailed it and Bama still had a problem admitting that someone wearing a gun to a barbecue was a) wrong and b) an asshole for having done so.
Like I said,I'm not going to re-do that whole argument.....it is what it was and thats that.

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
If you don't want people characterizing your positions based on what you say don't characterize other people while ignoring what they say.

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

I get to do that...he and you don't


edited to add: Here's my issue,I dramatized conversation between he and I,causeite frankly it sounded better in my head....the other issue is recalling exact quotes from a minor event five years ago is difficult at best,impossible at worst.
But the basic confrontation happened just as I detailed it and Bama still had a problem admitting that someone wearing a gun to a barbecue was a) wrong and b) an asshole for having done so.
Like I said,I'm not going to re-do that whole argument.....it is what it was and thats that.

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
If you don't want people characterizing your positions based on what you say don't characterize other people while ignoring what they say.

Generally I'll take the word of a poster relating a personal experience. My problem with this is trying to imagine what asshole in their right mind would go to a strangers house after having been invited to their BBQ, visably strapped. I've never heard of anything like that before.

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

I get to do that...he and you don't


edited to add: Here's my issue,I dramatized conversation between he and I,causeite frankly it sounded better in my head....the other issue is recalling exact quotes from a minor event five years ago is difficult at best,impossible at worst.
But the basic confrontation happened just as I detailed it and Bama still had a problem admitting that someone wearing a gun to a barbecue was a) wrong and b) an asshole for having done so.
Like I said,I'm not going to re-do that whole argument.....it is what it was and thats that.

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
If you don't want people characterizing your positions based on what you say don't characterize other people while ignoring what they say.

Generally I'll take the word of a poster relating a personal experience. My problem with this is trying to imagine what asshole in their right mind would go to a strangers house after having been invited to their BBQ, visably strapped. I've never heard of anything like that before.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

I get to do that...he and you don't


edited to add: Here's my issue,I dramatized conversation between he and I,causeite frankly it sounded better in my head....the other issue is recalling exact quotes from a minor event five years ago is difficult at best,impossible at worst.
But the basic confrontation happened just as I detailed it and Bama still had a problem admitting that someone wearing a gun to a barbecue was a) wrong and b) an asshole for having done so.
Like I said,I'm not going to re-do that whole argument.....it is what it was and thats that.

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
If you don't want people characterizing your positions based on what you say don't characterize other people while ignoring what they say.

Generally I'll take the word of a poster relating a personal experience. My problem with this is trying to imagine what asshole in their right mind would go to a strangers house after having been invited to their BBQ, visably strapped. I've never heard of anything like that before.

Me either, sounded fishy from the outset, and I said that not only would I not do that but that the guy was a jerk. As usual he ignored that I said that (and repeated it) and insisted on berating me for not saying what I repeatedly told him I said.
I have never known anyone to do this with one exception.
The guy was head of security at our Shakespeare Festival, and he came straight from work, still in uniform.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

I get to do that...he and you don't


edited to add: Here's my issue,I dramatized conversation between he and I,causeite frankly it sounded better in my head....the other issue is recalling exact quotes from a minor event five years ago is difficult at best,impossible at worst.
But the basic confrontation happened just as I detailed it and Bama still had a problem admitting that someone wearing a gun to a barbecue was a) wrong and b) an asshole for having done so.
Like I said,I'm not going to re-do that whole argument.....it is what it was and thats that.

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
If you don't want people characterizing your positions based on what you say don't characterize other people while ignoring what they say.

Generally I'll take the word of a poster relating a personal experience. My problem with this is trying to imagine what asshole in their right mind would go to a strangers house after having been invited to their BBQ, visably strapped. I've never heard of anything like that before.

Whether or not you believe it,that's what happened.
your choice on where you fall on that but the fact that you agree that he had to have been an asshole to ring my bell like that means we actually agree on something.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

I get to do that...he and you don't


edited to add: Here's my issue,I dramatized conversation between he and I,causeite frankly it sounded better in my head....the other issue is recalling exact quotes from a minor event five years ago is difficult at best,impossible at worst.
But the basic confrontation happened just as I detailed it and Bama still had a problem admitting that someone wearing a gun to a barbecue was a) wrong and b) an asshole for having done so.
Like I said,I'm not going to re-do that whole argument.....it is what it was and thats that.

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
If you don't want people characterizing your positions based on what you say don't characterize other people while ignoring what they say.

Generally I'll take the word of a poster relating a personal experience. My problem with this is trying to imagine what asshole in their right mind would go to a strangers house after having been invited to their BBQ, visably strapped. I've never heard of anything like that before.

Me either, sounded fishy from the outset, and I said that not only would I not do that but that the guy was a jerk. As usual he ignored that I said that (and repeated it) and insisted on berating me for not saying what I repeatedly told him I said.
I have never known anyone to do this with one exception.
The guy was head of security at our Shakespeare Festival, and he came straight from work, still in uniform.

What you said was that despite him being a jerk I acted like an asshole.
Now I could give a shit about your opinion of me but as far as I'm concerned I went way out f my way being nice by asking him to leave it in his car and still served him a burger.
Truth of the matter if I had slammed the door in his .
Once again though that was the last thread....I'm done continuing this with you,have a lovely evening

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

No,he wasn't .
See here you are trying desperately to find some way this guy wasn't simply an asshole.
And that right there is my issue with you,he's a gun guy so he couldn't have been that fucking stupid is your whole basic premise.
Hate to bust your bubbly cupcake but a whole lot of you "gun guys" are assholes...that's why so many fucking people wind up with bullets in them....assholes with guns.
This man,the father of my nephews friend ,was one such asshole,accept it and move on or shove it.
I don't really give a shit....but stop trying to tell me you agree with me than take two giants steps back and try to find justification for his actions.
You sound like a broken fucking record,and an idiot to boot.