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LadyPact -> RE: hot wax (9/10/2016 5:31:27 AM)

I have past posts about it.

But, since you brought it up. [:D]

The thing about most scented candles is that the majority of the way that scent is obtained is from a chemical additive. Usually, from a 'perfume' type or something that is oil based, which usually means they have a petroleum element. Adding this to any candle you are creating, means you are taking the temperature up.




MariaB -> RE: hot wax (9/10/2016 5:34:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

I'm a bit surprised that nobody's mentioned avoiding using scented candles, on that note.


Its very difficult to add fragrance to paraffin wax. Most perfumed candles are made from bees wax, gel wax or soy bean wax. The first two types of wax are not suitable for wax play but soy bean wax makes lovely warm dripping candle for wax play.
I've given workshops on making soy bean candles and lanolin massage candles and I always tell people to leave out the fragrances.

I do mention this in my link






MariaB -> RE: hot wax (9/10/2016 5:38:53 AM)

Another thing about fragrances for candles is, its often made from undiluted essential oils and you should never put undiluted essential oils on the skin.




DocStrange -> RE: hot wax (9/10/2016 9:52:12 AM)

Fast Reply:
A couple things to know about wax play and the human body.

1st degree skin burns happen somewhere in the 109F to 120F temperature range. People with more sensitive or tougher skin may fall outside of that range but the majority of the people fall within the 109F to 120F range.

There is a time element involved also. So the skin must be at burn temperature for a period of time for the burn to occur. That time differential will vary be person, wax droplet size, wax type etc. So when the wax blob hits the skin it will immediately begin dissipating the heat. So a 130F blog may hit the skin but in less than 1 second it could drop to 100F depending on the person, wax, and droplet size. So this is a very gray area. Or better said, no magic formula that will tell you the exact answer to prevent a burn.

As most people have stated, you want to use low temperature melting waxes. Google the melting temps. Soy waxes have a very low melting temperature
http://www.campbell-light.com/waxes.htm

And just because a way has a very low melting temperature does not mean you cannot get burned. If you melt the wax at 200F, you will still burn the person. Using a variable temperature melting device where you can control the temperature of the wax is very helpful.

If you want to play around with dripping candle wax:
Get a digital thermometer. Try dripping the wax on the thermometer. Start from a high distance and note the temperature. Bring it closer and note how the temperature increases. I would target keeping the drip lower than 120F. This will give you some idea of how far away you can safely drip wax on someone.





Shandirra -> RE: hot wax (9/10/2016 3:24:57 PM)

~FR~

@OP - Additionally, avoid metallic colored candles completely. The melting point is ridiculously high and will cause nasty burns. They will scar permanently.




LadyPact -> RE: hot wax (9/10/2016 5:57:53 PM)

I hope this is going to be worth it...

There are two basic types of wax that are commonly used most often in BDSM play. (I did NOT say only.) These two are paraffin and soy. The advantage of both is that they have lower melting points compared to other types of wax. I didn't say burning points. Please feel free to ask me how many things are in your house right now that I could set fire to if I put an open flame to it.

Of the two, I personally prefer paraffin. Soy, when you dye it tends to be a little better when we talk about easier, more even color distribution, but I don't favor it as far as 'feel' on the skin. If you go to your local nail salon/spa, and you ask for a 'skin peel', they are going to stick your feet in a "bath" of paraffin wax. Get rid of the dead skin cells, keep the healthy ones attached, and your skin feels glorious.

The other widely (non kink) use for paraffin is muscle and tendon physical therapy. Because it has the low melting point that can avoid being damaging to the skin, but enough warmth to be therapeutic to the body, it's great for other things. It won't repair the injury that you might have, but it can relieve it.

Basic paraffin wax has a low(er) melting temp than something like beeswax. You can change the melting temp of paraffin depending on what you add to it. A basic block of paraffin, in it's solid state, will look white to you. It's not really white. It's devoid of color and is really clear. Take that same block of (solid) wax and liquefy it via heat. You will be able to see through it. For it to really be white, you must add dye to it. Same as any other color.

So, let's talk about dye. Different dyes produce different results. How much you add. How "dark" the dye is. Somebody mentioned metallic dye. All of these things increase heat. Color the candle that you are making into "black" and all other things being equal, it is going to be hotter (temp-wise) than if you make a candle that is grey. A standard yellow dye is not as hot as a dark red. A light purple is 'cooler' than a dark purple.

Everything you add to that basic paraffin wax, is going to change it. Whether it's color, scent, pretty, little metallic sparkles... Whatever.

Some dyes are safer than others. In the USA, the term "non-toxic" means you can ingest it and you will not become ill. There are better dyes out there than Crayola.

Let's accept the fact that most people who want to get into wax play aren't going to spend hours upon hours making their own candles. Most people are going to get the 'sexy-fun time' idea about wax, run out to the local store, and pick up any candle on the shelf.

DON'T DO THAT!!!!

If you're not even going to invest yourself enough to purchase candles made by somebody who made them for the purpose of BDSM play, some wax out there is better than others.

1. Gulf wax. Yep. Same stuff your Grandma used when canning fruit. It is "clear," has that lower melting point, etc.

2. Menorah candles. Even on the box, they say "100% pure paraffin".

3. These things called "Jesus jars". They get the nickname because they have religious symbols on them. Most of them come from Mexico and the unscented ones can be great.

Don't grab stuff like...

Dinner (tapered) candles. Those things are mass produced and they are absolute sh^t. If you have one in your house, take it to your kitchen, and cut it in half. (I will reimburse you for the expense.) The outside will be a pretty red, green, gold, etc. It's not that color on the inside is it?

Know why?

That color on the outside is most likely a type of plastic. It's a pretty sheen they put on it to make it look pretty. For people use? It's about the equivalent as if I got under my kitchen sink, lit a Hefty bad on fire, and dripped that on you.

So-called 'birthday candles'? Same thing.

"This candle smells nice. Let's pick this one." In other words, you don't know a damn thing about why that candle 'smells good'.

What' in it? If you don't know, you are taking a bigger risk than necessary.






TieMeInKnottss -> RE: hot wax (9/10/2016 7:20:59 PM)

Off the wall question but I have GOT to ask!!! Does body hair get removed when doing wax play? This is where my little finance mind always goes...economical AND entertaining? Could I save money by getting involved with someone who does wax play (I like to think of myself as a progressive thinker!)[8|]




LadyPact -> RE: hot wax (9/10/2016 8:52:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TieMeInKnottss
Off the wall question but I have GOT to ask!!! Does body hair get removed when doing wax play? This is where my little finance mind always goes...economical AND entertaining? Could I save money by getting involved with someone who does wax play (I like to think of myself as a progressive thinker!)[8|]

The basic answer is yes.

Most of the areas of the body have, at minimum, at least very fine hair. The areas where we have coarser hair is because it has a specific job.

Hair is different in various areas of the body just like skin. It's really cool stuff. I could pluck one piece of your eyebrow and one hair that you don't even know that is on your tummy, and they would be so different! Put both under a microscope and you'd see some real differences, even though they both came from you!

I know. I know. You're thinking free Brazilian wax. Yes, you can do that.

Additional thing! Why don't you re-use your wax???

Remember what I said about 'skin peels"? When those little skin cells come off, where do they go?

Everything you add to wax changes it!




DocStrange -> RE: hot wax (9/10/2016 8:58:43 PM)

I cannot speak for people who shave (stubble close to the skin). But I can tell you if you hair is longer (mine body hair is about 1" to 2" long) and the wax is thick enough, body hair is coming out when you remove the wax. For that reason, I prefer to be clean shave it the play areas :)




oliviadovie -> RE: hot wax (9/10/2016 10:48:20 PM)

A nice rough over followed by some hot waxing--- YUMMY! I need a date. LOL




MariaB -> RE: hot wax (9/11/2016 3:43:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DocStrange

I cannot speak for people who shave (stubble close to the skin). But I can tell you if you hair is longer (mine body hair is about 1" to 2" long) and the wax is thick enough, body hair is coming out when you remove the wax. For that reason, I prefer to be clean shave it the play areas :)


And wax residue is going to stick to the hair which could be a bugger to get off. I agree with you... shaving is best.




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