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Aylee -> RE: rightwing family values. (5/23/2015 8:04:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: Aylee

I cannot believe the glee over someone being sexually assaulted. Wow.

Why not ?
the little darling wont be charged with anything....statute of limitations has run out.
he needs understanding and forgiving, God will forgive him, And Im sure the little girls and siblings are perfectly fine, and are eager to just wish the attacks away and pray for their molesters forgiveness.
Daddy dearest did him a huge favour and took him to a cop who is in jail for 55 years for child porn. Nothing was done until the statute had run out.
Now he confesses.....not found guilty, not accused, but confessed so that makes it all better.



Wow. No sympathy for a child molested but lots of sympathy and outrage for an adult "triggered" by having to read mythology. Rather partisan.




Lucylastic -> RE: rightwing family values. (5/23/2015 8:10:02 AM)




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ORIGINAL: Aylee


Wow. No sympathy for a child molested but lots of sympathy and outrage for an adult "triggered" by having to read mythology. Rather partisan.

yeah you kinda missed the irony and sarcasm by a mile by the look of it.
again
partisan? not sure how you get that, you of all people should know I am disgusted by child abuse, sexual abuse, and rape.
Im sorry would you like to accuse me of standing up for pedes....




Aylee -> RE: rightwing family values. (5/23/2015 9:11:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic




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ORIGINAL: Aylee


Wow. No sympathy for a child molested but lots of sympathy and outrage for an adult "triggered" by having to read mythology. Rather partisan.

yeah you kinda missed the irony and sarcasm by a mile by the look of it.
again
partisan? not sure how you get that, you of all people should know I am disgusted by child abuse, sexual abuse, and rape.
Im sorry would you like to accuse me of standing up for pedes....



Nope. I read it as a straight answer.




Lucylastic -> RE: rightwing family values. (5/23/2015 9:12:29 AM)

theres your problem right there.




Lucylastic -> RE: rightwing family values. (5/23/2015 11:06:32 AM)

oh what a surprise....NOT

Arkansas police have destroyed the records of Josh Duggar's nearly decade-old molestation case.

Springdale Police spokesman Scott Lewis told the Associated Press that Judge Stacey Zimmerman ordered the 2006 offense report destroyed Thursday. Zimmerman didn't return a request for comment on Friday.

"The judge ordered us yesterday to expunge that record," Lewis said, adding that similar records are typically kept indefinitely. "As far as the Springdale Police Department is concerned this report doesn't exist."

The move came a day after the 19 Kids and Counting reality TV personality resigned his position as a lobbyist for the Family Research Council after news of sexual misconduct allegations from his teenage years surfaced.



http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2015/05/23/josh-duggar-records-destroyed/27837149/




Sanity -> RE: rightwing family values. (5/23/2015 11:12:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

oh what a surprise....NOT

Arkansas police have destroyed the records of Josh Duggar's nearly decade-old molestation case.

Springdale Police spokesman Scott Lewis told the Associated Press that Judge Stacey Zimmerman ordered the 2006 offense report destroyed Thursday. Zimmerman didn't return a request for comment on Friday.

"The judge ordered us yesterday to expunge that record," Lewis said, adding that similar records are typically kept indefinitely. "As far as the Springdale Police Department is concerned this report doesn't exist."

The move came a day after the 19 Kids and Counting reality TV personality resigned his position as a lobbyist for the Family Research Council after news of sexual misconduct allegations from his teenage years surfaced.



http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2015/05/23/josh-duggar-records-destroyed/27837149/


Of course

The sexual predator Bill Clinton set the precedent there as governor

Oh, and look who LOVES having her picture taken with him...

[img]http://gopthedailydose.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Bill-Clinton-22859632.jpg[/img]





Lucylastic -> RE: rightwing family values. (5/23/2015 11:19:33 AM)

Im so sorry you cant past your butthurt....but lewinsky was 22, not four, or his sister




HunterCA -> RE: rightwing family values. (5/23/2015 11:27:18 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Im so sorry you cant past your butthurt....but lewinsky was 22, not four, or his sister



Kathleen Willey
Juanita Broaddrick
Elizabeth Ward Gracen
Monica Lewinsky
Paula Jones

All while in the White House or Govenors mansion. If it had been, say, the president of Shell Oil corp., I think the tune we heard from both you and the press would have been different.




Sanity -> RE: rightwing family values. (5/23/2015 11:28:13 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Im so sorry you cant past your butthurt....but lewinsky was 22, not four, or his sister


Lewinsky? Hopefully youre just pretending to be obtuse

Lewinsky isnt even the tip of the iceberg.

From a source that is highly sympathetic to the Clintons:

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Paula Jones — A former Arkansas state employee who alleged that in 1991 Clinton, while governor, propositioned her and exposed himself. She later filed a sexual harassment suit, and it was during a deposition in that suit that Clinton initially denied having sexual relations with Lewinsky. Clinton in 1998 settled the suit for $850,000, with no apology or admission of guilt. All but $200,000 was directed to pay legal fees.

Juanita Broaddrick — The nursing home administrator emerged after the impeachment trial to allege that 21 years earlier Clinton had raped her. Clinton flatly denied the claim, and there were inconsistencies in her story. No charges were ever brought.

Kathleen Willey — The former White House aide claimed Clinton groped her in his office in 1993, on the same day when her husband, facing embezzlement charges, died in an apparent suicide. (Her story changed over time. During a deposition in the Paula Jones matter, she initially said she had no recollection about whether Clinton kissed her and insisted he did not fondle her.) Clinton denied her account, and the independent prosecutor concluded “there is insufficient evidence to prove to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that President Clinton’s testimony regarding Kathleen Willey was false.” Willey later began to claim Clinton had a hand in her husband’s death, even though her husband left behind a suicide note.

Note that there is a pattern with these claims. As political analyst Kirsten Powers put it in a column for USA Today, “Paul surely knows that no court of law ever found Clinton guilty of the accusations.”

Peter Baker, in “The Breach,” the definitive account of the impeachment saga, reported that House investigators later found in the files of the independent prosecutor that Jones’s lawyers had collected the names of 21 different women they suspected had had a sexual relationship with Clinton. Baker described the files as “wild allegations, sometimes based on nothing more than hearsay claims of third-party witnesses.” But there were some allegations (page 138) that suggested unwelcome advances:

“One woman was alleged to have been asked by Clinton to give him oral sex in a car while he was the state attorney general (a claim she denied). A former Arkansas state employee said that during a presentation, then-Governor Clinton walked behind her and rubbed his pelvis up against her repeatedly. A woman identified as a third cousin of Clinton’s supposedly told her drug counselor during treatment in Arkansas that she was abused by Clinton when she was baby-sitting at the Governor’s Mansion in Little Rock.”




HunterCA -> RE: rightwing family values. (5/23/2015 11:34:02 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Im so sorry you cant past your butthurt....but lewinsky was 22, not four, or his sister


Lewinsky? Hopefully youre just pretending to be obtuse

Lewinsky isnt even the tip of the iceberg.

From a source that is highly sympathetic to the Clintons:

quote:

Paula Jones — A former Arkansas state employee who alleged that in 1991 Clinton, while governor, propositioned her and exposed himself. She later filed a sexual harassment suit, and it was during a deposition in that suit that Clinton initially denied having sexual relations with Lewinsky. Clinton in 1998 settled the suit for $850,000, with no apology or admission of guilt. All but $200,000 was directed to pay legal fees.

Juanita Broaddrick — The nursing home administrator emerged after the impeachment trial to allege that 21 years earlier Clinton had raped her. Clinton flatly denied the claim, and there were inconsistencies in her story. No charges were ever brought.

Kathleen Willey — The former White House aide claimed Clinton groped her in his office in 1993, on the same day when her husband, facing embezzlement charges, died in an apparent suicide. (Her story changed over time. During a deposition in the Paula Jones matter, she initially said she had no recollection about whether Clinton kissed her and insisted he did not fondle her.) Clinton denied her account, and the independent prosecutor concluded “there is insufficient evidence to prove to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that President Clinton’s testimony regarding Kathleen Willey was false.” Willey later began to claim Clinton had a hand in her husband’s death, even though her husband left behind a suicide note.

Note that there is a pattern with these claims. As political analyst Kirsten Powers put it in a column for USA Today, “Paul surely knows that no court of law ever found Clinton guilty of the accusations.”

Peter Baker, in “The Breach,” the definitive account of the impeachment saga, reported that House investigators later found in the files of the independent prosecutor that Jones’s lawyers had collected the names of 21 different women they suspected had had a sexual relationship with Clinton. Baker described the files as “wild allegations, sometimes based on nothing more than hearsay claims of third-party witnesses.” But there were some allegations (page 138) that suggested unwelcome advances:

“One woman was alleged to have been asked by Clinton to give him oral sex in a car while he was the state attorney general (a claim she denied). A former Arkansas state employee said that during a presentation, then-Governor Clinton walked behind her and rubbed his pelvis up against her repeatedly. A woman identified as a third cousin of Clinton’s supposedly told her drug counselor during treatment in Arkansas that she was abused by Clinton when she was baby-sitting at the Governor’s Mansion in Little Rock.”




Damn, his cousin, babysitting his daughter in the Govenors mansion. We can make a board game out of this. Of course since he was the first black president, and probably the first female president, who felt our pain, he SHOULD get a pass.




Lucylastic -> RE: rightwing family values. (5/23/2015 12:07:38 PM)

You cant see that confessing to molestation of minors, and siblings has fuck all to do with what happened with BC? he went thru the court of public opinion....now its duggar, his family, his life that is shitting the fan up.
Huckabee specifically has come out in support AFTER pictures were taken, and suggest to "everyone" that they should forgive his "lapse of family values". he humbled himself before god....is all it takes I guess for some people...
he hasnt been charged, is unlikely to be charged, he certainly wont bee seen as punished by mere humans....
If god has forgiven him, I wonder how he is gonna explain to the innocent victims.





HunterCA -> RE: rightwing family values. (5/23/2015 12:14:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

You cant see that confessing to molestation of minors, and siblings has fuck all to do with what happened with BC? he went thru the court of public opinion....now its duggar, his family, his life that is shitting the fan up.
Huckabee specifically has come out in support AFTER pictures were taken, and suggest to "everyone" that they should forgive his "lapse of family values". he humbled himself before god....is all it takes I guess for some people...
he hasnt been charged, is unlikely to be charged, he certainly wont bee seen as punished by mere humans....
If god has forgiven him, I wonder how he is gonna explain to the innocent victims.




As I look through this I don't see anyone defending pedophiles. I just see some people who change their opinions when it's politically expedient. I think that's what has been pointed out in the last couple of posts. In fact my whole point was Bubba was given a pass by feminists an executive of an oil company would never have gotten because he felt your pain. Having lived through all that makes us realize you use this sort of thing for a political weapon, stating you have a higher moral ground, when in fact it's obvious you have no moral ground. Merely moral outrage...or outrage.




CreativeDominant -> RE: rightwing family values. (5/23/2015 12:21:23 PM)

And this is SO much better. At least she wasn't her sister...And the predator is gay...that must be why age didn't matter:

http://www.mrc.org/articles/left-defends-accused-child-molester-because-shes-lesbian

Of course...there IS this case regarding noted left-wing activist and HBO darling, Lena Dunham. Anybody remember any outraoutrage from the media over this?

http://www.truthrevolt.org/commentary/lena-dunham-threatens-sue-truth-revolt-quoting-her




Sanity -> RE: rightwing family values. (5/23/2015 12:28:49 PM)


Pointed this one out earlier

(jvov originally brought it up)

No outrage about that though

Doesnt fit the narrative.




Lucylastic -> RE: rightwing family values. (5/23/2015 12:46:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: HunterCA


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

You cant see that confessing to molestation of minors, and siblings has fuck all to do with what happened with BC? he went thru the court of public opinion....now its duggar, his family, his life that is shitting the fan up.
Huckabee specifically has come out in support AFTER pictures were taken, and suggest to "everyone" that they should forgive his "lapse of family values". he humbled himself before god....is all it takes I guess for some people...
he hasnt been charged, is unlikely to be charged, he certainly wont bee seen as punished by mere humans....
If god has forgiven him, I wonder how he is gonna explain to the innocent victims.




As I look through this I don't see anyone defending pedophiles. I just see some people who change their opinions when it's politically expedient. I think that's what has been pointed out in the last couple of posts. In fact my whole point was Bubba was given a pass by feminists an executive of an oil company would never have gotten because he felt your pain. Having lived through all that makes us realize you use this sort of thing for a political weapon, stating you have a higher moral ground, when in fact it's obvious you have no moral ground. Merely moral outrage...or outrage.



Where did I say...anyone here was "defending pedophiles"
Again your lack of comprehension( or rather....abject partisanship) is accusing me of things I havent done. Please show me where I said anyone was defending pedos, except in my post to Aylee, because she has accused people of doing so.... simply asking if she would like to do it to me.
Your whole point has nothing to do with the harm done by this disgusting piece of shit to his own siblings and family.




HunterCA -> RE: rightwing family values. (5/23/2015 12:55:39 PM)

Focus Lucy. Try anyway.




PeonForHer -> RE: rightwing family values. (5/23/2015 1:21:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Pointed this one out earlier

(jvov originally brought it up)

No outrage about that though

Doesnt fit the narrative.


Has Terry Bean been a strident supporter of family values, then?




Sanity -> RE: rightwing family values. (5/23/2015 1:31:14 PM)


Depends. Are human rights a family value

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A prominent supporter of President Barack Obama and co-founder of the Human Rights Campaign was arrested last week on charges of sodomy and sexual abuse related to what authorities said was an encounter with a juvenile male.

Terrence Bean, 66, a major Democratic donor and a celebrated gay-rights activist, was indicted on two felony charges of sodomy and a misdemeanor count of sexual abuse by a grand jury and arrested in Oregon Wednesday, according to a statement from the Portland Police Bureau. Bean was released later that day on bail, pending a court hearing...



I suppose that if you feel you need a very narrow definition of "values" and such things in order to prove to yourselves that are not total hypocrites, you will go ahead and paint it any colour you like and completely disregard what is logical and makes sense




PeonForHer -> RE: rightwing family values. (5/23/2015 1:38:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Depends. Are human rights a family value

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A prominent supporter of President Barack Obama and co-founder of the Human Rights Campaign was arrested last week on charges of sodomy and sexual abuse related to what authorities said was an encounter with a juvenile male.

Terrence Bean, 66, a major Democratic donor and a celebrated gay-rights activist, was indicted on two felony charges of sodomy and a misdemeanor count of sexual abuse by a grand jury and arrested in Oregon Wednesday, according to a statement from the Portland Police Bureau. Bean was released later that day on bail, pending a court hearing...



I suppose that if you feel you need a very narrow definition of "values" and such things in order to prove to yourselves that are not total hypocrites, you will go ahead and paint it any colour you like and completely disregard what is logical and makes sense


You tell me if human rights are a family value, Sanity. I'm unfamiliar with the Bible and have little idea of what fine upright Christian Bible supporters and kiddie-fiddling criminals like Josh Duggan consider to be the values we should all be upholding. I'm even less aware of how they consider their values to be 'logical' and 'make sense'. Perhaps you could help me on these questions?




HunterCA -> RE: rightwing family values. (5/23/2015 1:40:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


Pointed this one out earlier

(jvov originally brought it up)

No outrage about that though

Doesnt fit the narrative.


Has Terry Bean been a strident supporter of family values, then?



Apparently he had his own niche.

http://michellemalkin.com/2014/12/03/nothing-on-terry-bean/

quote:


So, who is Terry Bean? He’s a wealthy, high-flying liberal and celebrated gay-rights activist who co-founded the influential Human Rights Campaign organization. He is also a veteran member of the board of the HRC Foundation, which disseminates Common Core-aligned “anti-bullying” material to children’s schools nationwide.


It seems his family values runs to the school yard side of things.




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