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"Draft Biden. Draft Schultz. Draft ANYBODY!!!" - 8/3/2015 7:34:50 AM   
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Many Democrats are finally beginning to realize something most outsiders already know - old Hillary Clinton 'aint all that', as her and her man Bubba used to say down in 'ol Arkansar'. Her negatives are high and moving in the wrong direction. People are asking questions, like "Why isnt the DOJ looking into her email scandal". "Why wont she talk to the media." And "Really? Bush vs. Clinton? Again?"

Bernie Sanders is a joke that makes conservatives smile. Most "liberals" are at least smart enough to deny that they are socialists.. The only thing Marxism ever did for anybody was get 95 million people killed and make a few bloodthirsty old men all powerful and unstoppable tyrants

So... The draft Biden movement is gaining momentum... Which is great. Another rich old white person, in a party that panders to poor minorities. Heh... I love that. Crazy old uncle Joe who spends more time with his foot in his mouth than in his shoe, running for president

Again

And now according to Maureen Dowd and the New York Times:

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Starbucks' Howard Schultz Urged to Challenge Hillary

"While he was promoting his book on veterans last year, he honed a message about making government work again and finding 'authentic, truthful leadership,'" Dowd said.




There you go - change you can REALLY REALLY believe in. "We really mean it this time."

Panic... Panic... Abort... Abort...

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RE: "Draft Biden. Draft Schultz. Draft ANYBODY!!!&... - 8/3/2015 8:02:11 AM   
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yeah im sorry, anything by that woman(dowd) is automatically rabid hillary derangement syndrome and she has had it for decades.
partisan.
As for Joe?I see bernie making headway more than joe, at least for a while...immigration is slowing bernie down but his speech attendance even in red states is interesting.
Hillary, well the nyt failed dismally. But she is going further left....for now...
I like Joe...I like Bernie, Id like to see Duckworth run, BUT she doesnt deserve the dirt she would get thrown at her. by the dems but especially the repubs

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RE: "Draft Biden. Draft Schultz. Draft ANYBODY!!!&... - 8/3/2015 9:47:43 AM   
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yeah im sorry, anything by that woman(dowd) is automatically rabid hillary derangement syndrome and she has had it for decades.
partisan.
As for Joe?I see bernie making headway more than joe, at least for a while...immigration is slowing bernie down but his speech attendance even in red states is interesting.
Hillary, well the nyt failed dismally. But she is going further left....for now...
I like Joe...I like Bernie, Id like to see Duckworth run, BUT she doesnt deserve the dirt she would get thrown at her. by the dems but especially the repubs


Imagine if conservatives put all of the GOP/TP candidates are the same microscope of criticism as they do Hillary. How many of their candidates would be able to hold up to the scrutiny? None of them. Which is why Democrats like Hillary. She's more an man than all the men in the GOP/TP right now!

I'm 'OK' with VP Biden running for office. Or others. Unlike conservatives and libertarians, liberals and moderates what substance not "I'm running because I hate Hillary" bullshit. Notice that every candidate on the GOP/TP side only off by one to three percentage points from Mr. Non-Named GOP (whom still loses in polls against Hillary Clinton).




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RE: "Draft Biden. Draft Schultz. Draft ANYBODY!!!&... - 8/3/2015 10:10:02 AM   
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I think the highlight of my month is going to be the debate on fox
sad in one respect, but I am looking forward to it sooo much.
the dem race is going no where yet...the emails are desperately being sought, but everyones screwing around with it, the same with benghazi. They dont have shit to stick, but they hammer away like with everything else.

Biden running, yeah yea liberal elite and old...oh and his "flubs n outbursts". but compared to the opposition...he could be a pres for 8 years:)





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RE: "Draft Biden. Draft Schultz. Draft ANYBODY!!!&... - 8/3/2015 10:31:33 AM   
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quote:

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I think the highlight of my month is going to be the debate on fox
sad in one respect, but I am looking forward to it sooo much.
the dem race is going no where yet...the emails are desperately being sought, but everyones screwing around with it, the same with benghazi. They dont have shit to stick, but they hammer away like with everything else.

Biden running, yeah yea liberal elite and old...oh and his "flubs n outbursts". but compared to the opposition...he could be a pres for 8 years:)



Debates?

Debates?

We dont need no stinkin debates. We are leftists...

DEMS DODGE DEBATES; NOTHING 'SCHEDULED'



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RE: "Draft Biden. Draft Schultz. Draft ANYBODY!!!&... - 8/3/2015 10:45:28 AM   
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Does it scandalise you?
Would you watch a debate??
Would you like to see fox do the debate?
There are still 4 times the runners in the GOP...whats it up to 17 now? only ten to debate at the big table?

Why would they do it anywhere close to the date of the circus show promised for thursday night.
The dems can afford to wait...they will have their debates, you will just have to posses your soul with patience.

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RE: "Draft Biden. Draft Schultz. Draft ANYBODY!!!&... - 8/3/2015 11:11:17 AM   
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Does it scandalise you?
Would you watch a debate??
Would you like to see fox do the debate?
There are still 4 times the runners in the GOP...whats it up to 17 now? only ten to debate at the big table?

Why would they do it anywhere close to the date of the circus show promised for thursday night.
The dems can afford to wait...they will have their debates, you will just have to posses your soul with patience.


Oh no, fuck - are you kidding me?

Complain about a wide field and the Democratic process playing itself out among the more conservative party all you like

I embrace debate, and the American people having a choice

I also embrace the Democrats' death spiral. Enemies of free speech, enemies of the freedoms that are the very heart and soul of capitalism... May they get everything they deserve

(Just imagine how much uglier Hillary will get if someone starts stepping on her toes THIS time)



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RE: "Draft Biden. Draft Schultz. Draft ANYBODY!!!&... - 8/3/2015 12:11:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity
Most "liberals" are at least smart enough to deny that they are socialists.. The only thing Marxism ever did for anybody was get 95 million people killed and make a few bloodthirsty old men all powerful and unstoppable tyrants


did you see the clip of Debbie wasserman-schultz being very uncomfortable when chris Matthews asked her the difference between a democrat and a socialist?

one explanation was she didn't want to answer because she was aware that to answer would either make all democrats look bad, or, to try to delineate between the two would alienate Bernie sanders' voters from eventually coming over to Hillary.

and comrade penguin, here, these are just for you (call it a pet peeve of mine):

www.grammar-monster.com/lessons/who_whom.htm

www.elearnenglishlanguage.com/blog/english-mistakes/who-vs-whom

www.wisegeek.org/what-is-the-difference-between-who-and-whom.htm

www.writersdigest.com/online-editor/who-versus-whom

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RE: "Draft Biden. Draft Schultz. Draft ANYBODY!!!&... - 8/3/2015 12:33:14 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity
Most "liberals" are at least smart enough to deny that they are socialists.. The only thing Marxism ever did for anybody was get 95 million people killed and make a few bloodthirsty old men all powerful and unstoppable tyrants


did you see the clip of Debbie wasserman-schultz being very uncomfortable when chris Matthews asked her the difference between a democrat and a socialist?


No, missed that. Heard a little about it. Going to have to look it up now..

Ah, found it

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/07/30/chris_matthews_to_debbie_wasserman_schultz_whats_the_difference_between_a_democrat_and_a_socialist.html

Priceless! Just like most every other leftist, cant answer a simple straightforward question

"Aba, ah uh, the Republicans are bad..."






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RE: "Draft Biden. Draft Schultz. Draft ANYBODY!!!&... - 8/3/2015 12:36:20 PM   
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Right now your job is to Canibalize your own. The clown car stops on THU for the first debate. Now you can get excited about:

(1) The war on Women and Planned Parenthood.

(2) Pissing on Diplomacy with IRAN in favor of War and Invasion.

(3) Funding the infrastructure of the USA by never raising taxes or the gasoline tax.

(4) Who can deny climate change the loudest?

(5) Doing NOTHING about immigration and seeking to repeal Obamacare for the 50,000th time.

(6) The glory of putting Business heads from Wall Street, Oil and Gas, and other industries at the head of regulatory agencies.

(7) Who can stir up the loudest fears regarding terrorism, ISIS, IRAN, Ebola, and criminals who cross the US border.

(8) Railing against OBAMA or the war on Christians.

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RE: "Draft Biden. Draft Schultz. Draft ANYBODY!!!&... - 8/3/2015 1:03:26 PM   
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Wrong thread, cloudboy...

On topic:
Creepy Uncle Joe Biden - "the clown prince of American politics"... " the only adult in the room...."

quote:

Run, Biden, run! Column

As scandal all but envelops the Clinton campaign, Biden grows in presidential appeal.

It may just be boredom among Democrats who are less than enthralled by all of the attention being lavished on Donald Trump, or discomfort with a Democratic contest whose outcome seems in the bag for Hillary Clinton, or even the unease that that party faithful feel about dynastic politics — something they share with Republicans who also feel squeamish about the prospect of leaders with roman numerals after their names. The explanation may be the simple concern that some Democrats have about the other shoe that they fear will drop about private servers or classified emails, the Clinton foundation, or even Benghazi. Whatever it is, interest is heating up about one of the most familiar and appealing faces in American politics, Vice President Joseph Biden.

There is no prominent figure in American politics whose image has improved so dramatically in recent years. From being the butt of unjustified criticism that he was the clown prince of American politics, Joe Biden is increasingly looking like the only adult in the room....

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/08/03/run-biden-run-column/31033835/



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RE: "Draft Biden. Draft Schultz. Draft ANYBODY!!!&... - 8/3/2015 2:28:03 PM   
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It's still a good 5 or 6 months before the primaries actually start, so I don't feel antsy to pick a candidate. So I'm ok with more hopefuls joining in, and not rushing the debates.

Bernie is looking good though.

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RE: "Draft Biden. Draft Schultz. Draft ANYBODY!!!&... - 8/3/2015 2:45:41 PM   
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I've seen some of those wonderful photos but had no idea that uncle Joe had so many. What a treasure trove. Thanks for sharing.

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RE: "Draft Biden. Draft Schultz. Draft ANYBODY!!!&... - 8/3/2015 4:21:52 PM   
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It's still a good 5 or 6 months before the primaries actually start, so I don't feel antsy to pick a candidate. So I'm ok with more hopefuls joining in, and not rushing the debates.

Bernie is looking good though.


Bernie is a dream ticket for the GOP

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RE: "Draft Biden. Draft Schultz. Draft ANYBODY!!!&... - 8/3/2015 5:05:50 PM   
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Actually I was sitt'n around BS'n with my buddies just the other night and we were talking about actually watching the GOP debate. We all agreed, we needed a good laugh.

Can't think of a better reality comedy especially with so many having a hard time just beating the margin of error.

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RE: "Draft Biden. Draft Schultz. Draft ANYBODY!!!&... - 8/3/2015 6:42:32 PM   
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It's still a good 5 or 6 months before the primaries actually start, so I don't feel antsy to pick a candidate. So I'm ok with more hopefuls joining in, and not rushing the debates.

Bernie is looking good though.


Bernie is a dream ticket for the GOP


I'm sure he is. After 8 years of Bernie in office, Republicans can spend the next 60 years trying to undo all the good he'll do. At least they'll have a platform.

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RE: "Draft Biden. Draft Schultz. Draft ANYBODY!!!&... - 8/3/2015 9:05:52 PM   
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I'm sure he is. After 8 years of Bernie in office, Republicans can spend the next 60 years trying to undo all the good he'll do. At least they'll have a platform.


What would be ideal, is an unpopular Hillary Clinton just barely squeaking into the nomination, then Sanders (who is already an Independent) makes a third party run, just for good 'ol Karl Marx's sake. Or Maos' sake, or Stalins' sake. Che, Castro, Pol Pot, any of the good old boys he holds high on that bloody pedestal of his

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RE: "Draft Biden. Draft Schultz. Draft ANYBODY!!!&... - 8/4/2015 8:28:39 AM   
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I'm sure he is. After 8 years of Bernie in office, Republicans can spend the next 60 years trying to undo all the good he'll do. At least they'll have a platform.


What would be ideal, is an unpopular Hillary Clinton just barely squeaking into the nomination, then Sanders (who is already an Independent) makes a third party run, just for good 'ol Karl Marx's sake. Or Maos' sake, or Stalins' sake. Che, Castro, Pol Pot, any of the good old boys he holds high on that bloody pedestal of his


Sanity.....Sanity.....Sanity......

What are we going to do with you? Hillary has the nomination. Would be curious whom she picks for VP. Sanders and Warren would be good picks. There are quite a few Democratic picks out in the nation. Bernie will not run as an independent. He understands quite well that American needs less GOP/TP retardation.

Now Trump, could be an independent candidate for office. That would pretty much hand the election to Hillary.

You have your fantasies.....

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RE: "Draft Biden. Draft Schultz. Draft ANYBODY!!!&... - 8/4/2015 8:51:57 AM   
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Hillary has the nomination.


Thats exactly what all the know-it-all leftists said last time, too.

Interesting times.

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RE: "Draft Biden. Draft Schultz. Draft ANYBODY!!!&... - 8/4/2015 9:25:35 AM   
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To me there is subject that if brought up there will be accusations of chauvinism.... I can take it. America is conservative...even its liberals are conservative by say European standards. With this ingrained conservative attitude is America ready for a female President? There I said it.

I believe, please do not ascribe this belief to my personal way of thinking, that many male and female voters including Democrats do not think a woman is strong enough to be President. We are still a male dominated country. It will be hard for Clinton to overcome a solid Republican base AND Democrats, that although they agree with her political positions, will not vote for her because she is a woman.

I hope this is not the case and the election will be decided on substance and not gender but I do believe gender will have a big influence on the outcome.

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