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crumpets -> Human behavior is complicated (it defies reproduction) (8/28/2015 6:57:59 AM)

A surprising number of psychology studies can�t be reproduced

Does Psychology Have a Reproducibility Problem? Study Says Yes

Psychology research results often uncertain: Study Shows




Commonplace -> RE: Human behavior is complicated (it defies reproduction) (9/1/2015 12:38:16 AM)

Human behaviour is complex; objectively understanding and predicting it isn't.

Studies aren't replicated. They always involve different samples of a population and often involve different independent and dependent variables.

Psychology has a premise that creates our understanding of behaviour (and it's amazing to study) but as with everything else its constantly evolving, so there is nothing uncertain. Look at the relationship and the significance. Focus on longitudinal studies and do not look for causation.




ResidentSadist -> RE: Human behavior is complicated (it defies reproduction) (9/1/2015 12:46:05 AM)

I saw that on Facebook. I thought it was pretty interesting.




crumpets -> RE: Human behavior is complicated (it defies reproduction) (9/1/2015 6:46:58 AM)

Pretty much, this study of studies concluded that half of them (roughly) were hogwash.
I guess that means the other half were decent, so, all is not lost.
It just means we need to carry a sack of salt with us whenever we hear of a new psychological study.




DerangedUnit -> RE: Human behavior is complicated (it defies reproduction) (9/1/2015 6:55:16 AM)

With a loy of research it's misinterpretation by the people reading it to take into account to. Reporters that write about studies rarely understand them.... just the other day on the news they repprted "fat gene found!" And I audibly groaned "now everyone is going to think they were born fat"

With psychology it's even worse because social evolution changes they way people think really quickly... ive always strongly been opposed to the field. Trying to create a guideline by which people behave then criminalizes any who don't behave by that guideline.




NookieNotes -> RE: Human behavior is complicated (it defies reproduction) (9/1/2015 8:29:20 AM)

And yet, there are many that CAN be reproduced. That is why I look for multiple reports, multiple studies, and trends of learning over time.




ChatteParfaitt -> RE: Human behavior is complicated (it defies reproduction) (9/1/2015 11:19:21 AM)

I agree with Nookie. I will also add, there are many experiments that can't be replicated, period -- and it is almost always due to mistakes made by the researcher.

When your research is math based, it's easy to catch a mistake made in calculation. When it is personality or mind based, well gee, it can be hard to know how to execute an accurate scientific study. It takes lots of trial and error, hence the inability to replicate.




crazyml -> RE: Human behavior is complicated (it defies reproduction) (9/4/2015 12:16:52 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: NookieNotes

And yet, there are many that CAN be reproduced. That is why I look for multiple reports, multiple studies, and trends of learning over time.


Boom!

Well constructed studies can be reproduced, shitty studies can't.




lthrpup -> RE: Human behavior is complicated (it defies reproduction) (9/5/2015 8:56:56 AM)

If it can't be reproduced, then somewhere it is not consistent with the scientific method. Poof, conclusions invalid. (e.g. Kinsey)




crumpets -> RE: Human behavior is complicated (it defies reproduction) (9/5/2015 10:34:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: lthrpup
somewhere it is not consistent with the scientific method.

Agreed.

We were all taught, in all our science classes, that the "experiment" isn't only about the results.
It also includes documenting the method.

If someone else can't reproduce the results using the documented method, then, a grain of salt starts to grow into a larger and larger crystal (witness cold fusion).




Kirata -> RE: Human behavior is complicated (it defies reproduction) (9/6/2015 6:42:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Commonplace

Human behaviour is complex; objectively understanding and predicting it isn't.

Predicting human behavior is easy. Being right... not so much.

K.





crumpets -> RE: Human behavior is complicated (it defies reproduction) (9/7/2015 12:04:00 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata
Predicting human behavior is easy. Being right... not so much.

:)




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