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-= Stop it, RS. Dont be an ass=-


Restore RS's forum rank text [Awaiting Approval]
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Apologize for being a snivelly little bitch
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Ban the asshole mod
  9% (8)
Ban the asshole ResidentSadist
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RS is an ass and even he believes in "calling a spade a spade"
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Stop abusing mod privileges, there has already been enough of that
  19% (16)
Post to FetLife - whine about this in their Collarme Refugeess group
  5% (5)
Flashback to the days when Arpig used to have 86 socks posting
  8% (7)
Have frenzied masturbation fit and post 86 sexting threads of your own
  4% (4)
Laugh at drama lamas, get cookies & go watch TV like RS just did
  14% (12)


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RE: -= Stop it, RS. Dont be an ass=- - 10/11/2015 5:54:33 AM   
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Annnnnnnnnnnnnnd we get to 16?

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RE: -= Stop it, RS. Dont be an ass=- - 10/11/2015 5:56:36 AM   
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I'm really glad to hear, though not surprised, that you take time away... I think that one of the issues we'be had in the past with mods is that the boards have become an unhealthy obsession

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RE: -= Stop it, RS. Dont be an ass=- - 10/11/2015 10:50:03 AM   
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I think that one of the issues we'be had in the past with mods is that the boards have become an unhealthy obsession

And not just for the mods, by a long shot.

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RE: -= Stop it, RS. Dont be an ass=- - 10/13/2015 4:09:54 AM   
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@all

Speaking of time away... took that three day weekend and made it my bitch! I'm sure I have a billion things to do, but I trust nothing that can't be repaired has happened.

:)

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RE: -= Stop it, RS. Dont be an ass=- - 10/13/2015 5:06:21 AM   
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@all

Speaking of time away... took that three day weekend and made it my bitch! I'm sure I have a billion things to do, but I trust nothing that can't be repaired has happened.

:)


There is this: http://www.collarchat.com/m_4846857/tm.htm .

The consensus of that thread is some sort of official explanation would be nice.

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RE: -= Stop it, RS. Dont be an ass=- - 10/13/2015 5:22:20 AM   
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nods with anjelica.

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RE: -= Stop it, RS. Dont be an ass=- - 10/13/2015 11:24:23 AM   
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quote:

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I think that one of the issues we'be had in the past with mods is that the boards have become an unhealthy obsession

And not just for the mods, by a long shot.


The above should be a sticky


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RE: -= Stop it, RS. Dont be an ass=- - 10/17/2015 6:23:14 PM   
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@all

Speaking of time away... took that three day weekend and made it my bitch! I'm sure I have a billion things to do, but I trust nothing that can't be repaired has happened.

:)

Are you sure? What happens the next time you take three days off and kiddie porn crosses the site? Will that be ok until you come back on Monday?

It's happened before.

I'm going to suggest to you that you make three fast decisions:

* Don't leave this place unattended. Seriously, I've seen stuff on this site that made my skin crawl.

* Make some damn policy. You've sat on it long enough about folks threatening to out people around here. How can you have a higher priority than that?

* Get some damn staff. Nobody expects you to hold watch all of the time. Get some assistants. Folks who know the joint. It's not like you don't have a resource pool.

While you're pissing around creating new smilies, you might want to think about some other stuff.



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RE: -= Stop it, RS. Dont be an ass=- - 10/17/2015 7:34:31 PM   
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Been going back and reading some of the threads that have been linked here that some of you think are worth being collected. Considering that many of you were banished from the island for a while, it occurred to me that you may not be aware of some of the newer ones that are worthy as well. So I am adding a thread here for you to peruse. One of my favorites since I have been on here.
http://www.collarchat.com/m_4791439/tm.htm

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RE: -= Stop it, RS. Dont be an ass=- - 10/18/2015 2:02:12 AM   
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That hurt my head.


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RE: -= Stop it, RS. Dont be an ass=- - 10/18/2015 7:49:05 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

That hurt my head.


Yeah. 24 pages of that. I should have included a warning.

Or maybe it was my inner sadist having a little fun.

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RE: -= Stop it, RS. Dont be an ass=- - 10/18/2015 8:57:41 AM   
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thats just mean!!!!!grins

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RE: -= Stop it, RS. Dont be an ass=- - 10/19/2015 1:44:28 PM   
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@LadyPact

Focusing in on what I (and those who have worked hard on bringing this place back) are NOT getting done is a very sad way to look at the improvements that have been being made. However, I'll address your points.

> What happens the next time you take three days off and kiddie porn crosses the site? Will that be ok until you come back on Monday?

Yes. It will have to be. I will not be moderating 24/7, and we do not yet have the team in place to do it. And it would have been the same when I was not here at all.

Small steps toward improvement. We focus on what can be done.

> Don't leave this place unattended. Seriously, I've seen stuff on this site that made my skin crawl.

Thank you for the suggestion, but staffing this 24/7 is just not feasible at this time.

Be grateful or not.

I'd say be grateful. We've brought you and a lot of wonderful people back. It's getting better, even if not on your preferred schedule or mine. :)

> Make some damn policy. You've sat on it long enough about folks threatening to out people around here. How can you have a higher priority than that?

And it's being taken care of.

As far as policy, there is no "sitting." There is a lot of work to be done, and the policy is one priority among many, and a complex one at that.

It is a high priority, but not higher than dealing with the reports we get every single day on the forums and the other side on serious issue, like the above mentioned children, and more.

> Get some damn staff. Nobody expects you to hold watch all of the time. Get some assistants. Folks who know the joint. It's not like you don't have a resource pool.

Apparently you expect me to hold watch all the time. Or you want to pay for the extra help? Or create the policies that everyone (including anyone who might have done this before, following a COMPLETELY different set of rules) will have to follow? Or make sure that those people are actually following those rules and policies, and NOT banning people like yourself?

That's a very quiet and simple thing to do, you know...banning someone who mouths off.

Are you really suggesting we go back to that, just to get moderators? I am not willing to take that risk.

> While you're pissing around creating new smilies, you might want to think about some other stuff.

Ah. I see. You apparently think that anyone who works at CS should be focusing it 24/7 on nothing but doing what YOU think is the priority.

Let me explain something from my POV, and I'm saying this as a single human, not as a representative of this site:

No matter how fucked up a project (I've spent a lot of my life reclaiming projects), there HAS to be downtime. And for coders/programmers/project managers, doing small things that make people happy, like Easter eggs and new smilies, that is their downtime before diving back into the brain-draining, soul-debilitating work.

Off my soapbox. Again, that is me saying that. not Collarspace or Collarchat as an entity.

At this point, I'm VERY happy with the fact that the site and forums are running relatively smoothly.

And, for the record, I will continue to live my life as I need to and take breaks as needed as well, because I believe (as someone else said) a good work/life balance in moderating these forums will be more of a help than a hinderance.

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RE: -= Stop it, RS. Dont be an ass=- - 10/19/2015 1:53:10 PM   
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WTF is with the scrolling item with the announcement that says "A Special message from Collarspace"
and when you click it, its a freaking ad.
WTFF?
That shit is tawdry. False advertising clickbait crap.
Who do I bitch at for that?

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RE: -= Stop it, RS. Dont be an ass=- - 10/19/2015 2:51:25 PM   
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quote:

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WTF is with the scrolling item with the announcement that says "A Special message from Collarspace"
and when you click it, its a freaking ad.
WTFF?
That shit is tawdry. False advertising clickbait crap.

It's neither. Stop whining for fucks sake. Don't want to donate? Then don't. Is it really that hard?

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Who do I bitch at for that?

Obama?

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RE: -= Stop it, RS. Dont be an ass=- - 10/19/2015 6:29:26 PM   
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OK. I'm kind of the Queen of Quotes, so I hope you'll be cool with me doing this in a way that I don't miss any of your points. Fair?

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@LadyPact

Focusing in on what I (and those who have worked hard on bringing this place back) are NOT getting done is a very sad way to look at the improvements that have been being made. However, I'll address your points.

> What happens the next time you take three days off and kiddie porn crosses the site? Will that be ok until you come back on Monday?

Yes. It will have to be. I will not be moderating 24/7, and we do not yet have the team in place to do it. And it would have been the same when I was not here at all.

I'm not trying to suggest that you, as a human being, try to be here 24/7. Nobody can keep up with that and you and I both know what happened to the last couple of people that tried. Some jobs are too big for any one person to handle on their own. Then, there's that nice other thing about, you know, having a life and all.


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Small steps toward improvement. We focus on what can be done.

> Don't leave this place unattended. Seriously, I've seen stuff on this site that made my skin crawl.

Thank you for the suggestion, but staffing this 24/7 is just not feasible at this time.

No offense, but I don't think we agree on this. I'm not even going on the 24/7 thing being optimal. (It would be nice but it's kind of a pipe dream.) You have posters here who, in my opinion, would be exceptionally qualified to help you. They know ToS, know computer systems, and at least have a starting off point about forum rules. Yes, I understand those will be subject to change, but even if you were to say 'we're not doing X the way it used to be done,' it wouldn't be that hard for them to pick up whatever is new and improved.

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Be grateful or not.

I'd say be grateful. We've brought you and a lot of wonderful people back. It's getting better, even if not on your preferred schedule or mine. :)

> Make some damn policy. You've sat on it long enough about folks threatening to out people around here. How can you have a higher priority than that?

And it's being taken care of.

As far as policy, there is no "sitting." There is a lot of work to be done, and the policy is one priority among many, and a complex one at that.

I'm not trying to hang you out to dry or tell you that I don't appreciate any efforts that you are making. In fairness, you can't blame me for not seeing what you might be doing behind the scenes compared to what I see on the screen. I can only imagine the chaos you've walked into and I'm the first person to tell you that I wouldn't want to be in your shoes.

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It is a high priority, but not higher than dealing with the reports we get every single day on the forums and the other side on serious issue, like the above mentioned children, and more.

The little people thing? The only thing I can say is that I hope with all sincerity that you have a very strong stomach. I don't think that part is easy on anyone.

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> Get some damn staff. Nobody expects you to hold watch all of the time. Get some assistants. Folks who know the joint. It's not like you don't have a resource pool.

Apparently you expect me to hold watch all the time. Or you want to pay for the extra help? Or create the policies that everyone (including anyone who might have done this before, following a COMPLETELY different set of rules) will have to follow? Or make sure that those people are actually following those rules and policies, and NOT banning people like yourself?

No, I really don't expect you to hold watch all of the time. That's why I think it's worth considering for you to have some help. Even if it's just a couple of people who will help you with picture reviews or the mess that comes through from the profile side.

If E is finally paying people around here to do the work, I'm not going to kid you and say I don't think that's awesome, because I do. It's only fair that people get compensated for their time and for an honest day's work.

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That's a very quiet and simple thing to do, you know...banning someone who mouths off.

Are you really suggesting we go back to that, just to get moderators? I am not willing to take that risk.

It's not an all or nothing proposition. There is a middle ground. I don't think I'm the only person with the opinion that the last PIC (person in charge) did a great job. I'm still of the opinion that you don't give the keys to the shop to a person who publicly admitted for years that she had blackouts, lapses in memory, and a few other tidbits that anybody can find using the search feature.

I'm not looking to nail anybody to the cross for being sick. I'm not the type to kick somebody when they are down if they have cancer, either. It's a hard thing to accept things that happen when people are ill... Maybe even because they are ill. I think decent people try to do the best they can on that subject.

People have been saying that E is sick, too, and maybe that's why he's made some of the bad decisions that he's done. I don't know. I've never met the man. If he is as... Ummm, doing as badly as people say, I'd be putting the POA into the attorney's hands pretty darn quick.

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> While you're pissing around creating new smilies, you might want to think about some other stuff.

Ah. I see. You apparently think that anyone who works at CS should be focusing it 24/7 on nothing but doing what YOU think is the priority.

Don't you think there are priorities? Hey, new smilies are really cute and all and I even think folks (myself included) had some fun playing with them. Give me a little credit, ok? I'm not a complete asshole.

Do I think some things have higher priorities than others? Yes. Fixing the ticket system before the smilies, I was with you 100% because I do think one thing is more important than the other. A person running around necroing every thread they can find through the search feature is annoying but it doesn't come close to people threatening to out each other or somebody trying to contact the authorities because they can't tell that something on the forums is a d^mn joke. (Yes, you did fix those things. I'm only using them as examples because I really don't enjoy talking about *bad* ToS violations.)

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Let me explain something from my POV, and I'm saying this as a single human, not as a representative of this site:

No matter how fucked up a project (I've spent a lot of my life reclaiming projects), there HAS to be downtime. And for coders/programmers/project managers, doing small things that make people happy, like Easter eggs and new smilies, that is their downtime before diving back into the brain-draining, soul-debilitating work.

Off my soapbox. Again, that is me saying that. not Collarspace or Collarchat as an entity.

In all sincerity, you don't have to explain to me that every word from you is reflective of the site. I am aware that you have personal opinions of your own. Unless you are E behind the Mod name, I'm willing to lay odds that sooner or later, there's going to be something you don't agree with, either.

quote:

At this point, I'm VERY happy with the fact that the site and forums are running relatively smoothly.

And, for the record, I will continue to live my life as I need to and take breaks as needed as well, because I believe (as someone else said) a good work/life balance in moderating these forums will be more of a help than a hinderance.

That's why I keep suggesting that you get folks to help you. I think just about every forum member has seen stuff cross the screen that they really do wish they could un-see. (I'm not just talking about the thousands of dick pics, either.) There really are some evil, foul people in the world and I hate to think you're going to have to be the one subjected to all of it.

I really am trying to wish you the best, even if you don't see it that way.


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RE: -= Stop it, RS. Dont be an ass=- - 10/19/2015 6:43:43 PM   
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At this point, I'm VERY happy with the fact that the site and forums are running relatively smoothly.

And, for the record, I will continue to live my life as I need to and take breaks as needed as well, because I believe (as someone else said) a good work/life balance in moderating these forums will be more of a help than a hinderance.


I gotta say! I fully agree! Ya know if child porn don't turn up here, people just gotta google and they get to see a gazillion everyday. They won't drop dead and die seeing it for 3 days before it gets taken off.

Anyway, stick to what you are doing, I think it's going great!

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RE: -= Stop it, RS. Dont be an ass=- - 10/20/2015 6:46:38 AM   
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> I'm kind of the Queen of Quotes, so I hope you'll be cool with me doing this in a way that I don't miss any of your points. Fair?

Absolutely!

> No offense, but I don't think we agree on this. I'm not even going on the 24/7 thing being optimal. (It would be nice but it's kind of a pipe dream.) You have posters here who, in my opinion, would be exceptionally qualified to help you. They know ToS, know computer systems, and at least have a starting off point about forum rules. Yes, I understand those will be subject to change, but even if you were to say 'we're not doing X the way it used to be done,' it wouldn't be that hard for them to pick up whatever is new and improved.

I agree. There is potential. However, that is not entirely up to me, and frankly, there has been plenty of trouble pulling moderators from the forums before.

At this point, we are planning to expand the team beyond who we have have. It will take time to do it right, and get people trained, as I've been learning how to document the system and the policies we've been working on, so that they are clear and applied as consistently as possible.

> I'm not trying to hang you out to dry or tell you that I don't appreciate any efforts that you are making. In fairness, you can't blame me for not seeing what you might be doing behind the scenes compared to what I see on the screen. I can only imagine the chaos you've walked into and I'm the first person to tell you that I wouldn't want to be in your shoes.

I don't blame you for not seeing. At all.

I do blame you a bit for assuming the worst, rather than the best, or even being neutral, and just asking.

> The little people thing? The only thing I can say is that I hope with all sincerity that you have a very strong stomach. I don't think that part is easy on anyone.

I do.

> No, I really don't expect you to hold watch all of the time. That's why I think it's worth considering for you to have some help. Even if it's just a couple of people who will help you with picture reviews or the mess that comes through from the profile side.

We do have this. I am not the only person working. Just the one who takes all the flack.

(and all the praise, Lol)

> Don't you think there are priorities? Hey, new smilies are really cute and all and I even think folks (myself included) had some fun playing with them. Give me a little credit, ok? I'm not a complete asshole.

Lol! Ok. I was a bit defensive. It's my man-time of the month.

(is that offensive? I really believe I have them)

> Do I think some things have higher priorities than others? Yes. Fixing the ticket system before the smilies, I was with you 100% because I do think one thing is more important than the other. A person running around necroing every thread they can find through the search feature is annoying but it doesn't come close to people threatening to out each other or somebody trying to contact the authorities because they can't tell that something on the forums is a d^mn joke. (Yes, you did fix those things. I'm only using them as examples because I really don't enjoy talking about *bad* ToS violations.)

Right, I get that.

And I am ON those as soon as I get back from any time off I take. Luckily some humans (terms used loosely) are known for their playacting online, and while we take it seriously, we know it is likely to be for naught.

The main concern is that it will give other people the wrong idea of what is allowed.

> In all sincerity, you don't have to explain to me that every word from you is reflective of the site. I am aware that you have personal opinions of your own. Unless you are E behind the Mod name, I'm willing to lay odds that sooner or later, there's going to be something you don't agree with, either.

Oh yes. Absolutely. MANY disagreements. :)

However, I have had disagreements with every boss I have ever had. Every person I have ever known for more than 5 minutes. I'm contrary.

> That's why I keep suggesting that you get folks to help you. I think just about every forum member has seen stuff cross the screen that they really do wish they could un-see. (I'm not just talking about the thousands of dick pics, either.) There really are some evil, foul people in the world and I hate to think you're going to have to be the one subjected to all of it.

> I really am trying to wish you the best, even if you don't see it that way.


I do see it that way, now. Thank you.

We do have people helping. We're adding more. It may not be 100% evident, but it is happening.

I will say that I apologise for my defensive stance, as a result of your assumptions, versus my reality.

Thank you.




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Thank you. :)

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RE: -= Stop it, RS. Dont be an ass=- - 10/20/2015 7:08:21 AM   
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After a very long and serious bout with pneumonia, I am back. Didn't want you to think I abandoned you. Glad to see this thread sparked up and became a platform for communication. I still can barely breath but I'll drop by now and then.

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RE: -= Stop it, RS. Dont be an ass=- - 10/20/2015 8:53:05 AM   
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Get well soon RS

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