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RE: Serious question - 10/28/2015 7:24:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bunnicula

Your message is confused and open to interpretation on many different levels.

If you cannot write with clarity then be prepared for people to infer something that you did not expect.



Now da bunny is going to get answered and receive a caution just not to get alpha499 upset.... Could this reply be better used in the entitlement topic?



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RE: Serious question - 10/28/2015 7:27:53 AM   
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Well actually it matters the TOS is a contract which is only legally binding I..... and under which specific set(s) of laws they fall under and are judged.



Actually no ot is not inaccurate. It would not be accepted and I can refer you to EU supreme court cases if you like it. Contracts doesn't decide what's accepted - courts does. This site is available in EU and therefore subject to EU courts when used by an EU citizen. Doesn't matter what the contract says if french or EU court decides something else.

As for your ad hominem dismissal of other things I brought up that's just not a serious debate language.



courts might rule but getting the ruling enforced is never guaranteed...

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RE: Serious question - 10/28/2015 7:33:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: alpha499


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ORIGINAL: Bunnicula

It's what I got from your message. If that's not what you intended to say then perhaps increasing the clarity of your messages would be beneficial.

I cant do that, I am sorry, if the message is clear there no need to send it.



Yet another clear example of this person ideal of entitlement , interfering with the ability to communicate effectively... So if he says something and we fail to understand than it is of course
your issue not his..... wow, that is an interesting way to be....

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RE: Serious question - 10/28/2015 7:50:19 AM   
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dont play the innocent stupid here. everyone knows insults can be inflicted in many different ways and forms.
an insult is an insult as the way it is received, whether it was direct, indirect or in some cases not intented however it classifies as
an insult. anyway looking at the high priority my last post was handled, and the very fast response from the Mods over a word ( you, the knowledgeable of the TOS testified it is not
in the filtred list of offensive words even tho i am being moderated over using it) tells me there is some sort of ____ favoritism______ going on here. I dont kiss ass, i'd rather go
create another ID and start posting as usual. and if a Mod is expecting ME to kiss his/her ass in order to post on this message board, then they they are barking the
fucking wrong tree. I kick ass I dont kiss ass. and the taxes I pay to the IRS every year is TRICE what do trolls and Mods pay combined.
BTW the only manual I read is the one that puts money in my pockets...........



Ohh so alpha499, is just another Joker account.... thank you for identifying that for those who might need to know the connection.... Assuming you are JOK3ER, the mod
simply wants you to conform your behavior to what is reasonable and all your showing the mod is just how unreasonable you remain...

so when you say beautiful words like this "I kick ass I dont kiss ass" might be indicative of why your moderated.... As at least for me a myoptic gutter snipe that I am.... I don't
come here to fight nor do I see any reason to kiss ass.... Have a great day alpha499,


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RE: Serious question - 10/28/2015 7:55:25 AM   
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Boring sock is boring.


gee stef, can't you share the attentions of alpha499 ( the one who's name cannot be mentioned) with someone else.... please send him my way, he sounds like such a reasonable
person to chat with.... Thank You

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RE: Serious question - 10/28/2015 8:03:18 AM   
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Well, first of all, I didn't report anybody.

Here's the difference between a personal attack and a general statement:

If I write a post and direct it to a specific person, such as "<insert poster's name> is an asshole," or say to a specific poster "you are an asshole," that's a personal attack. There's got to be a proper noun or a pronoun in there.

If I write a post and say "if some asshole walked up to me and..." That is a general comment. I'm not specifying who I think is the asshole. It could be any random asshole that crossed my path and did stupid thing X. However, I am refraining from specifying the asshole.

While there are certain words that are frowned up on the forums, unless something has changed, the word "asshole," in and of itself is not on the terms you can't use list. I think the N-word is probably still on it and a few other choice terms.

However, if I was going to take a guess, I'd be going with busted for changing people's screen name's into personal insults. Believe it or not, it really does pay off sometimes to read the ToS and the forum rules. I had a feeling this emoji was going to come in handy.





Darn Ladypact , now he is going to go through his list and starting accusing all his other numerous admirer's..... ( couldn't you had taken one for the team???) I know at least
two separate people reported JOK3ER, because several of my attempts were blocked, because someone reported before me.
Ok, cat's out of the bag I did some reporting, but so did at least one other..... maybe more..... what message is that putting out there for you to surmise from?


I can't use the N-word , so calling people nice and neat will be moderated.....


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RE: Serious question - 10/28/2015 8:09:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: alpha499


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ORIGINAL: Bunnicula

Perhaps, but the message you sent was 'I pay too much tax'.



no, I did not say I pay too much tax, this 'd be a general statement but what i meant was I pay more taxes than the trolls and the Mods do, in term of comparaison only.



Umm regardless, it wasn't worth putting out there in the first place maybe..... just my myopic opinon....for sure....

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RE: Serious question - 10/28/2015 8:14:03 AM   
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then the Mods are violating the TOS. English is not my language so expletive words in my opinion are just abstract words without any substantial meaning, and when I use them, they dont really carry along with them the effective intended meaning. TOS are written in English, not in my language, and Mr Mod is judging me on an illegitimate presumtion that I can read and understand the TOS. how ridiculous is that



so I shouldn't get upset when someone refers to me as a camel or goat fornicator, while in the middle east.... is that what you mean by abstract?

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RE: Serious question - 10/28/2015 8:22:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Faldegast
Well actually it matters the TOS is a contract which is only legally binding if it was mutually agreed upon in informed consent. If someone for some reason doesn't read the contract before signing it, then it's not valid. In some jurisdictions such as most of the US signing implies informed consent. But I think it's safe to assume that the person raising this didn't sign the TOS in the US.

Also from a non-legal barrier one must consider the cultural barrier a TOS and it's interpretation can apply. It is hard enough to use a foreign language to communicate. The further adaption to anglo saxian etiquette creates an additional barrier. In french culture name calling isn't necessarily considered a personal insult, but a mere expression of emotions. Where anglo saxian etiquette frowns upon emotional expression in debates, french culture consider it important to express emotions.

And when it comes to personal insults calling someone a "silly man" are quite over the edge for someone that argue against using that kind of language. In fact it's far worse than "asshole".

Except for the neat little part where you are incorrect.

The higher legal standard goes to where the company is based, rather than where the service is used. The jurisdiction for civil matters of any kind has to be filed where the business license has been issued and is current. CS as a business, and make no mistake, it is a business, even provides the information as to where that jurisdiction happens to be.

The 'I didn't read it/didn't understand it' thing doesn't tend to work unless you are dealing with cases where the company providing the service is specifically trying to defraud those who use it. (Of which, there really isn't one here.) Lacking that, it's going to go back to the contract for said services, which every member signing up specifically AGREED to the clause that said they read it and understood it. With very little leeway, it is not the site's responsibility to ensure or verify that members have done so. That is specifically on the member who is agreeing to use the service. The little scroll down, check the box, enter the verification code type gigs lend to the site's claim that the member DID read it. Those things back up that it's on the user.

Most people who have two competent brain cells to rub together can very easily see that ToS (like most service providing contracts) has been written with covering the ass of the service provider in mind. It's what I'd be doing if I owned the joint. Protecting my interests.

In my honest opinion, most people don't read the contracts they agree to where services are provided. People in general don't tend to read what they sign from their cell phone providers, credit card companies, warranty package when they buy their vehicle, and all different kinds of things. Who does that bite in the ass in the end? The person who signed it, stipulating that they read it, without knowing squat about actual terms.





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RE: Serious question - 10/28/2015 8:22:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: alpha499

Everybody has the right to be proud of what he/she does best, you enjoy carasing your virtues.



I never heard my Mother say that when she caught me caressing my virtues.... usually it was make sure you wash your hands when your done sweety...

all kiddy aside you can speak to many things on this forum you just need to follow the rules...


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RE: Serious question - 10/28/2015 8:25:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: zombiegurlsos


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ORIGINAL: Bunnicula

Your message is confused and open to interpretation on many different levels.

If you cannot write with clarity then be prepared for people to infer something that you did not expect.



Now da bunny is going to get answered and receive a caution just not to get alpha499 upset.... Could this reply be better used in the entitlement topic?




I doubt very much the mods will warn me about upsetting another user by responding in a calm, non-confrontational manner to clarify a point he raised. No flaming, no name-calling, none of that stuff. If alpha499 gets upset then he is more than entitled to make a complaint. I would await the results with bated breath.


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RE: Serious question - 10/28/2015 8:34:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bunnicula

responding in a calm, non-confrontational manner to clarify a point he raised. No flaming, no name-calling, none of that stuff.


Your behavior is reprehensible. Put yourself on [Awaiting Approval] immediately or you'll be in BIG TRUBLE.

::crap.. I missed an O:: I hate when that happens.



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RE: Serious question - 10/28/2015 9:00:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: zombiegurlsos
Darn Ladypact , now he is going to go through his list and starting accusing all his other numerous admirer's..... ( couldn't you had taken one for the team???) I know at least
two separate people reported JOK3ER, because several of my attempts were blocked, because someone reported before me.
Ok, cat's out of the bag I did some reporting, but so did at least one other..... maybe more..... what message is that putting out there for you to surmise from?


I can't use the N-word , so calling people nice and neat will be moderated.....

Cute.

Nah. I really don't tend to take one for the team. Not unless I can hang with it aligning with my own standards. (Lying for no good reason doesn't tend to be among those.) Besides, my definition of taking one for the team is generally different than most people's.

Had I actually been the person who reported whatever post resulted in Mod action, I'd have said so. I'm not going to say I haven't reported the individual before but the last time was three weeks ago. Considering that I've only put in three reports from the forums in the last year, I guess that says something.

Funny thing. I actually think I'm harsher than New Mod. Some of the things that I interpret as violations aren't seen the same way by Admin. They really do get to make the call, so I'm outvoted.



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RE: Serious question - 10/28/2015 9:44:09 AM   
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Your behavior is reprehensible. Put yourself on [Awaiting Approval] immediately or you'll be in BIG TRUBLE.

::crap.. I missed an O:: I hate when that happens.




Big trouble?

Well, maybe a bit...


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RE: Serious question - 10/28/2015 12:03:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: alpha499

then the Mods are violating the TOS. English is not my language so expletive words in my opinion are just abstract words without any substantial meaning, and when I use them, they dont really carry along with them the effective intended meaning. TOS are written in English, not in my language, and Mr Mod is judging me on an illegitimate presumtion that I can read and understand the TOS. how ridiculous is that


Wow babes in the woods there alpha499. you claim not to understand the language you seem to be constructing sentences in that although understood, the issue is no one agrees with your view.... but boy you can make yourself pretty well understood in a language you say is so abstract it has no meaning....


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RE: Serious question - 10/28/2015 12:12:45 PM   
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Big trouble?

Well, maybe a bit...



Did you just ask to get bit.. cuz we can make that happen. A little of this .. a bit of that ..
a couple of hours in here .. Now.. run along. You know where you belong. and I have loads of recipes to pour through.

::sings in horrible off tune thus beginning the torment:: nom nom nom on wabbit stew.. yum a yum a yum

You are all witness to the consent, right? If not, no worries. I edit at need, whim, leisure.. whatever.

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RE: Serious question - 10/28/2015 12:13:34 PM   
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Well actually it matters the TOS is a contract which is only legally binding if it was mutually agreed upon in informed consent. If someone for some reason doesn't read the contract before signing it, then it's not valid. In some jurisdictions such as most of the US signing implies informed consent. But I think it's safe to assume that the person raising this didn't sign the TOS in the US.

Also from a non-legal barrier one must consider the cultural barrier a TOS and it's interpretation can apply. It is hard enough to use a foreign language to communicate. The further adaption to anglo saxian etiquette creates an additional barrier. In french culture name calling isn't necessarily considered a personal insult, but a mere expression of emotions. Where anglo saxian etiquette frowns upon emotional expression in debates, french culture consider it important to express emotions.

And when it comes to personal insults calling someone a "silly man" are quite over the edge for someone that argue against using that kind of language. In fact it's far worse than "asshole".


Faldegast: when you post this "And when it comes to personal insults calling someone a "silly man" are quite over the edge for someone that argue against using that kind
of language. In fact it's far worse than "asshole"." To me is shows you are in an abstract world... that lacks common sense.... oh right but it is pretty well proven that common sense is lacking in many of your posts... which seem never to go anywhere, but a pity party for yourself....




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RE: Serious question - 10/28/2015 12:14:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bunnicula


quote:

ORIGINAL: FinSock




Your behavior is reprehensible. Put yourself on [Awaiting Approval] immediately or you'll be in BIG TRUBLE.

::crap.. I missed an O:: I hate when that happens.




Big trouble?

Well, maybe a bit...




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RE: Serious question - 10/28/2015 12:24:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bunnicula

I disagree. Clarity is your friend.

You were somehow conflating monetary income with some kind of superiority over others on the messageboards. It's an incredibly weak argument - I have worked with and for some extremely wealthy businesspeople. Some (and only a very few) were nice, the majority are self-obsessed, narcissistic assholes. So in my experience, trying to make yourself seem like a 'better person' by shouting loudly "I have more money than you!" actually has the opposite effect.


If you choose to become upset, then that is indeed your choice, not mine.




The effect it had on me was to go look at his profile to see how old he was. I must say it sure explained a lot.

that was so brilliant, I thought if you wanna know how old someone was you look at their ID's not profiles. however speaking about this site I am older than you here, I joined on April 2008.

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RE: Serious question - 10/28/2015 1:01:22 PM   
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