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blnymph -> RE: Islamic invasion pulls trigger: Europe now scrambles for guns (11/3/2015 1:29:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

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ORIGINAL: blnymph

I took the bother to check for its fact content and told you all about the result - so much about facts related to this thread.



I don't know where you did that. ...



then read post Nr. 40 and the link to the newspaper which was said to have published the original article and look for it there

Ich kann Deutsch (vielleicht im Gegensatz zu dir). Schau selber nach und wenn du den Artikel unwahrscheinlicherweise finden solltest, dann kannst du ja den Link dazu setzen.

Außerdem kann ich noch ein paar andere europäische Sprachen, kenne die ganzen Knallköpfe, die du so gern zitierst, und deren Phrasen - mir können diese Leute nichts vormachen.




mnottertail -> RE: Islamic invasion pulls trigger: Europe now scrambles for guns (11/3/2015 1:38:18 PM)

Genau! Und Ganz Genug für die schwachsinnig.


I like to use moeglich instead of vielleicht though, it even sounds more like maybe.


Alles Klaar.




lovmuffin -> RE: Islamic invasion pulls trigger: Europe now scrambles for guns (11/3/2015 3:41:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin


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ORIGINAL: joether

I'm arriving late to this thread, but it appears the information about 'Muslims Invading' is nothing more than FOX N---er---Nazi Propaganda. Designed to drive fear, intolerance, and hatred into obtaining firearms. Which is EXACTLY the same phenomenon observed here in the States for the last seven years.

Hateful people use the language barrier and customs of foreigns to play on the fears of the native population saying "They'll bring Sharia Law here and destroy your way of life". Now where have we heard that hateful garbage from? The Republican/Tea Party within the USA! Ironically enough, this is the same group that wants all the effects of Sharia Law, since it seems to conform to their outlooks (just maybe a pseudo-christian version of it).


I suppose you can present some sort of evidence this is coming from FOX News, Tea Party, Republicans in the USA or is your Birdbrain just making shit up again ??


US History Books. You'll find them in libraries in each state of the nation. You might also look into newspaper articles and websites. The only people in the nation that had a problem with where Mr. Obama was born (in Hawaii); were the same people against him politically. What's wrong with being born in the state of Hawaii?

On the issues with Sharia Law as it concerns GOP/TP ideology; well, you just have to examine information objectively:

Both entities share things in common:

A ) Government based on religious doctrine
B ) Women have fewer rights than men
C ) Both hate freedom of the Individual
D ) Homosexuality is outlaws (and those whom are, are killed)
E ) Rejecting science in favor of religious doctrine
F ) Favor war over dialogue and diplomacy with rival nations
G ) No separation between church and state
H ) Religion is taught in school
I ) Abortion is illegal
J ) The Ends Justify the Means



Yeah.....just like I thought LMAO




lovmuffin -> RE: Islamic invasion pulls trigger: Europe now scrambles for guns (11/3/2015 3:45:42 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: blnymph


quote:

ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

quote:

ORIGINAL: blnymph

I took the bother to check for its fact content and told you all about the result - so much about facts related to this thread.



I don't know where you did that. ...



then read post Nr. 40 and the link to the newspaper which was said to have published the original article and look for it there

Ich kann Deutsch (vielleicht im Gegensatz zu dir). Schau selber nach und wenn du den Artikel unwahrscheinlicherweise finden solltest, dann kannst du ja den Link dazu setzen.

Außerdem kann ich noch ein paar andere europäische Sprachen, kenne die ganzen Knallköpfe, die du so gern zitierst, und deren Phrasen - mir können diese Leute nichts vormachen.


I don't suppose you would translate that ?? Must be why I didn't get that the first time.




lovmuffin -> RE: Islamic invasion pulls trigger: Europe now scrambles for guns (11/3/2015 3:49:47 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

quote:

ORIGINAL: lovmuffin


quote:

ORIGINAL: joether

I'm arriving late to this thread, but it appears the information about 'Muslims Invading' is nothing more than FOX N---er---Nazi Propaganda. Designed to drive fear, intolerance, and hatred into obtaining firearms. Which is EXACTLY the same phenomenon observed here in the States for the last seven years.

Hateful people use the language barrier and customs of foreigns to play on the fears of the native population saying "They'll bring Sharia Law here and destroy your way of life". Now where have we heard that hateful garbage from? The Republican/Tea Party within the USA! Ironically enough, this is the same group that wants all the effects of Sharia Law, since it seems to conform to their outlooks (just maybe a pseudo-christian version of it).


I suppose you can present some sort of evidence this is coming from FOX News, Tea Party, Republicans in the USA or is your Birdbrain just making shit up again ??


I typically don't go to www.imaliberalwhackjob.com but I understand they have a photo and a report there of roger ailes and sean Hannity discussing that very thing.

www.leftistlooniebin also reports mark Levin, rush Limbaugh, glenn beck, ted cruz and reince priebus were planning on joining in after the groundwork was laid.

subsequent to that, of course the Koch brothers something something something...


LMAO I guess I missed those. Our resident conservative who posted below your post didn't.




bounty44 -> RE: Islamic invasion pulls trigger: Europe now scrambles for guns (11/3/2015 4:16:09 PM)

I have to laugh also at that last thing comrade birdbrain said to you:

"On the issues with Sharia Law as it concerns GOP/TP ideology; well, you just have to examine information objectively"

I believe he's posted that asine (or is "insane" the word im looking for?) list before.

he continually shows me he doesn't really know anything about Christianity, or the tea party.

and the unfortunate thing is, he wont stand corrected no matter how much explanation or evidence to the contrary one presents.







Lucylastic -> RE: Islamic invasion pulls trigger: Europe now scrambles for guns (11/3/2015 4:27:45 PM)

Well you do have to be intellectually credible to get someone to believe what you have posted.
You have none, and are not capable of being so.

Its quite simple really.




lovmuffin -> RE: Islamic invasion pulls trigger: Europe now scrambles for guns (11/3/2015 4:45:58 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

I have to laugh also at that last thing comrade birdbrain said to you:

"On the issues with Sharia Law as it concerns GOP/TP ideology; well, you just have to examine information objectively"



But he really does examine information objectively after he makes it up first.




thishereboi -> RE: Islamic invasion pulls trigger: Europe now scrambles for guns (11/4/2015 2:58:49 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: joether

quote:

ORIGINAL: lovmuffin


quote:

ORIGINAL: joether

I'm arriving late to this thread, but it appears the information about 'Muslims Invading' is nothing more than FOX N---er---Nazi Propaganda. Designed to drive fear, intolerance, and hatred into obtaining firearms. Which is EXACTLY the same phenomenon observed here in the States for the last seven years.

Hateful people use the language barrier and customs of foreigns to play on the fears of the native population saying "They'll bring Sharia Law here and destroy your way of life". Now where have we heard that hateful garbage from? The Republican/Tea Party within the USA! Ironically enough, this is the same group that wants all the effects of Sharia Law, since it seems to conform to their outlooks (just maybe a pseudo-christian version of it).


I suppose you can present some sort of evidence this is coming from FOX News, Tea Party, Republicans in the USA or is your Birdbrain just making shit up again ??


US History Books. You'll find them in libraries in each state of the nation. You might also look into newspaper articles and websites. The only people in the nation that had a problem with where Mr. Obama was born (in Hawaii); were the same people against him politically. What's wrong with being born in the state of Hawaii?

On the issues with Sharia Law as it concerns GOP/TP ideology; well, you just have to examine information objectively:

Both entities share things in common:

A ) Government based on religious doctrine
B ) Women have fewer rights than men
C ) Both hate freedom of the Individual
D ) Homosexuality is outlaws (and those whom are, are killed)
E ) Rejecting science in favor of religious doctrine
F ) Favor war over dialogue and diplomacy with rival nations
G ) No separation between church and state
H ) Religion is taught in school
I ) Abortion is illegal
J ) The Ends Justify the Means



So in other words, no you can't back up your bullshit accusations and yes you are just pulling shit our of your ass yet again. Color me surprised.




blnymph -> RE: Islamic invasion pulls trigger: Europe now scrambles for guns (11/4/2015 3:38:53 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: lovmuffin


quote:

ORIGINAL: blnymph


quote:

ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

quote:

ORIGINAL: blnymph

I took the bother to check for its fact content and told you all about the result - so much about facts related to this thread.



I don't know where you did that. ...



then read post Nr. 40 and the link to the newspaper which was said to have published the original article and look for it there

Ich kann Deutsch (vielleicht im Gegensatz zu dir). Schau selber nach und wenn du den Artikel unwahrscheinlicherweise finden solltest, dann kannst du ja den Link dazu setzen.

Außerdem kann ich noch ein paar andere europäische Sprachen, kenne die ganzen Knallköpfe, die du so gern zitierst, und deren Phrasen - mir können diese Leute nichts vormachen.


I don't suppose you would translate that ?? Must be why I didn't get that the first time.



I ll give you a short version:
check yourself there - you ll find nothing
if I remember correctly you mentioned yourself early that all that might be a fabrication - yes it is




Staleek -> RE: Islamic invasion pulls trigger: Europe now scrambles for guns (11/4/2015 5:22:24 AM)

The only thing Europe should "scramble" for is some perspective.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/mark-steel/mark-steel-so-has-anyone-really-been-islamified-against-their-will-1787816.html

I've said this before, I'll say it again: stop shitting your fearful little cowardly pants over Muslims. There are Muslim terrorists, separatists, politicians, warmongers, bombers, and naer-do'wells. But that applies to every other religious (and indeed irreligious) demographic in history. Collectively Islamic terrorists have killed fewer people in the last century than die in ONE YEAR in the USA due to the lack of restrictions on firearms. The vast majority of Muslims aren't terrorists.





Kirata -> RE: Islamic invasion pulls trigger: Europe now scrambles for guns (11/4/2015 5:44:59 AM)


You scream "Neonazi" and claim it's a fabrication, which the WND headline certainly is, but the story carried by Russia Today is ©Tami Shappell / Reuters, and I don't think the interview was faked.

K.





Kirata -> RE: Islamic invasion pulls trigger: Europe now scrambles for guns (11/4/2015 5:54:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Staleek

Collectively Islamic terrorists have killed fewer people in the last century than die in ONE YEAR in the USA due to the lack of restrictions on firearms.

Another anti-gun nut making shit up (352 million U.S. gun deaths in 2013!!).

[image]http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index_files/TROP.jpg[/image]

http://www.statista.com/statistics/202871/number-of-fatalities-by-terrorist-attacks-worldwide/

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ORIGINAL: Staleek

The vast majority of Muslims aren't terrorists.

[image]http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/files/2014/01/StrawMan2.jpg[/image]

K.




Staleek -> RE: Islamic invasion pulls trigger: Europe now scrambles for guns (11/4/2015 6:06:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: Staleek

Collectively Islamic terrorists have killed fewer people in the last century than die in ONE YEAR in the USA due to the lack of restrictions on firearms.

You're either nuts or lying.

http://www.statista.com/statistics/202871/number-of-fatalities-by-terrorist-attacks-worldwide/

quote:

ORIGINAL: Staleek

The vast majority of Muslims aren't terrorists.

[image]http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/files/2014/01/StrawMan2.jpg[/image]

K.



http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us/tally-of-attacks-in-us-challenges-perceptions-of-top-terror-threat.html?_r=0

When we're talking terror attacks we really need to define it correctly. What you've quoted there are attacks carried out in places like Iraq and Afghanistan which are areas in which civil wars are taking place (thanks to NATO interference).

Outside of that sphere Islamic terrorism is rarer than white-supremacist groups and racist groups, the later of which are mostly motivated by fear inspired by the likes of Fox News.

You are either intelligent enough to know that was my point and are dishonestly trying to alter it (in which case you're dishonest), or you're genuinely concerned that the civil war in Iraq will end up reaching US soil somehow, in which case you need to grow a pair and stop worrying.

EDIT: Please don't go to "religion of peace" to get information. One bunch of abject cowards, shivering in terror at anything that sounds non-western, has no claim to objectivity or even sanity.




Kirata -> RE: Islamic invasion pulls trigger: Europe now scrambles for guns (11/4/2015 6:18:19 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Staleek

When we're talking terror attacks we really need to define it correctly. What you've quoted there are attacks carried out in places like Iraq and Afghanistan which are areas in which civil wars are taking place (thanks to NATO interference).

Outside of that sphere Islamic terrorism is rarer than white-supremacist groups and racist groups...

You're fond of straw, aren't you. Nobody said anything about how many groups exist. The subject, per you, was the cumulative death toll. To wit, your claim:

Collectively Islamic terrorists have killed fewer people in the last century than die in ONE YEAR in the USA due to the lack of restrictions on firearms.

Yeah, no.

K.





mnottertail -> RE: Islamic invasion pulls trigger: Europe now scrambles for guns (11/4/2015 6:18:33 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata


You scream "Neonazi" and claim it's a fabrication, which the WND headline certainly is, but the story carried by Russia Today is ©Tami Shappell / Reuters, and I don't think the interview was faked.

K.



I cannot find anything other than a breitbart article mentioning Tami Chappell (as it is in the RT) or Tami Shappell, it all turns up on a google search, but you go into the articles the name is not found.

I dunno if RT saying that makes any of it true. You got a bio on this ghost?





blnymph -> RE: Islamic invasion pulls trigger: Europe now scrambles for guns (11/4/2015 6:20:27 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata


You scream "Neonazi" and claim it's a fabrication, which the WND headline certainly is, but the story carried by Russia Today is ©Tami Shappell / Reuters, and I don't think the interview was faked.

K.




I watched it - what one sees and hears in sequence: an anonymous Austrian somewhere (rather not a gun shop, looks like a basement), no name, no date, no place given - stills in an empty gun shop, wherever, rather neither in germany nor austria, judging by how unsecured the guns are displayed - seconds' clips of austrian and german politicians' statements over the past weeks, out of contexts - demonstrations waving flags, no place no date given, some Austrian, while the sound track definitely is not, recognisably from some "Monday" Pegida asf. demonstrations, maybe in Dresden



yes even with a Reuters (c) it is of deplorably poor standard but matching what can be expected from RT




Kirata -> RE: Islamic invasion pulls trigger: Europe now scrambles for guns (11/4/2015 6:28:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

I cannot find anything other than a breitbart article mentioning Tami Chappell (as it is in the RT) or Tami Shappell, it all turns up on a google search, but you go into the articles the name is not found.

I dunno if RT saying that makes any of it true. You got a bio on this ghost?

Oh fuck, I spelled it wrong. My bad. Tami Chappell is the correct spelling. She's apparently a Reuters correspondent.

http://www.reuters.com/search/news?blob=tami+chappell

As far as I can tell, Reuters didn't carry that particular story on their feed. But there seems to be a more or less general attempt, probably not ill-considered, to keep things calm and avoid feeding into fears that could stoke the potential for backlash.

K.




mnottertail -> RE: Islamic invasion pulls trigger: Europe now scrambles for guns (11/4/2015 6:49:19 AM)

Thanks K.

I know a cavil is noisome, but searching the Reuters site from your search, I dont get hits:

tami chappell Austrians snapping up shotguns as thousands of Mideast refugees enter country

looking at simply Tami Chappell Austria, I get hits, but no article akin to that.

Lincoln once famously said, "Don't believe half of what you see, and nothing you read on the internet".

Color me skeptical. Particularly since Tam doesnt really show her puss on the british(?) video.




Kirata -> RE: Islamic invasion pulls trigger: Europe now scrambles for guns (11/4/2015 6:55:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Color me skeptical. Particularly since Tam doesnt really show her puss on the british(?) video.

Well hey, I'm in no position to insist, and I'm not insisting, that the story is true. But neither is anyone else in a position to insist that it isn't, despite them repeatedly doing so. Personally, I find it plausible and not particularly surprising. What surprises me is the frenzied attacks denying it.

As for tami's puss, I dunno if I'd want to see it. Can we get a face or figure shot first?

K.




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