joether -> RE: Paris under attack (11/14/2015 9:20:08 AM)
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Devil's Advocate..... quote:
ORIGINAL: Aylee How many attacks have to take place and many have to die before we cease this talking point of, "They are not really Muslims" or "It is just a few extremists"? 4/19/95 and all the abortion clinic bombings were performed to help....WHO.....in politics? Certainly not Americans nor liberals. Very conservative if not Christian religious ideology. Hundreds more prevented by law enforcement over the years. All the groups The Pew identifies as 'hate groups' I would no doubt consider being monitored by everyone from the local officer to the NSA. There are many more conservatives that hold the notion of "using 2nd amendment remedies on 1st amendment liberals". There is....PLENTY....of hate-filled chatter from conservatives towards liberals of the 'near-threatening' quality. Just go over to Stormfront if you need examples. quote:
ORIGINAL: Aylee I have seen the number of extremist Muslims put at 10% of all Muslims. That is 100 million people. That is NOT "a few." That is also a large enough number to count as its own brand of Islam. There are a large number of conservatives whom hate the President for no other reason than he's black. Some hate him on his policies. We are not talking just disagreeing. Like disagreeing on whether to see the new Bond Film before Star Wars. We are talking, hate-filled rage. That if the Secret Service was not around, these individuals WOULD attack the President. Hard to know what percentage of conservatives (which is about 30%, ~+/-2%, of the US Population). Since how does one define 'regular conservative' from 'on the verge of attacking the government'? They both have guns.... Lets take you specifically, Aylee. How do we know your 'just a conservatives' and not 'someone plotting evils against the United States of America and her people?". Do we take your word for it? Since you distrust everyone else; why should they trust you? That is why it becomes ever important to separate the evil ones from the good. But has to be done in a fair and good manner; very hard concept to construct without it, the process, corrupting others. There are many Muslims, like Americans that want nothing more than to live in peace with their neighbors. A tiny percentage are hate-filled. Most of those are...also....ignorant and uneducated. The two guys whom killed Charlie Hebro? Neither of them knew who the guy was, or what he had done. They were told to kill him. And they killed him. Had both been educated and intelligent, would they have done the same? No. There are millions of intelligent and educated Muslims. Do you see them all going after others with guns and bombs? quote:
ORIGINAL: Aylee I will also point out that there is only one requirement for being a Muslim. I am certain that these extremists, terrorists, whatever the word flavor of the day is, meet that requirement for "Muslim-hood." There is only one requirement to being conservative. The current clown car of GOP/TP's try every chance they get to define themselves as the....MOST PURE....conservative. Just like the Nazis in the 1930's, or those extremists of people whom worship Islam. Its dangerous language, used by individuals either not realizing the consequences of their words/actions (the ignorant majority) or those that do (the real hell spawns). You seem to want everyone's attention on Muslims and not just....all...the sources of evil in the world. Why is that? Your often more extreme in your views then any of the other conservatives on here. Several of them have posted sadness to what's happened in Paris. You? You seem to have no heart, feeling, or empathy. quote:
ORIGINAL: Aylee What do the numbers need to be before we stop making excuses and start doing something that actually works? Like filing in all the conservatives in the nation into re-education centers? While taking their guns and bibles away? Yeah, that's metaphorically what your stating. How much good with all that produce for the nation? Do we just blanket-like accuse people and stripe them of their rights? Even their most basic human rights? What will that accomplish? Nothing good and plenty of evil! That's.....WHY....no one in this nation is in favor of placing conservatives in re-education camps, taking their bibles/guns, or reducing their legal status to that of an 'enemy combatant'. Most conservatives, like moderates and liberals, are good people. Just with different viewpoints on freedom and liberty. You can't seem to understand this concept. That's your problem! How do we fight an ideology? By discrediting it as evil. REAL EVIL. Showing proof and evidence that is easily backed up. Showing it to those that might help the more evil types. Letting them decide if helping the world becoming more hate filled and fiery is in their best interests. Most people, regardless of religion, upbringing, nationality, or financial status, tend to side with good rather than evil. To live in peace, raise their children, and have a good life.
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