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Punishments that "are" punishments... - 7/18/2006 8:38:28 AM   
zzzstinky


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Hello all....

Just wondering if any Dommes would be kind enough to share idea's on what some real punishments might be to teach or train a slave. What I mean is of course a whipping may be a punishment but I may equally enjoy it. What I seek is some ideas to offer to a Domme in which it's clear that I won't just enjoy it, or laugh it off. For instance foul language "which I avoid" could be mouth soaping. Not cleaning the dishes right mean doing them "all" again.. What sort of punishment do you think offer powerful behavior lessons?

Thanks in advance...
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RE: Punishments that "are" punishments... - 7/18/2006 9:09:34 AM   
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If something isn't done correctly, I have the slave do it over again. Not only will it be done correctly but practice helps one learn to do something better.

If there is a behavior issue, like not keeping one's word or acting pissing, then we have a discsussion and if it is repeated it might equal the end of the relationship.

If its a habit, then we have to work on countering the habit. For swearing, rather than take my time and energy to wash out someone's mouth, I'd probably ignore him and tell him to write out an essay on the history of swearing or that particular word -- make it nice a boring, help make the word less than casual. When said essay is done, I'll read it and grade it. When it is an A-level grade then I pay attention again.

In general, when I find someone who is the right person for me, we really don't have these issues often beyond the training period.

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RE: Punishments that "are" punishments... - 7/18/2006 9:23:27 AM   
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  • nose in the corner holding up a dime
  • kneeling on rice, kitty litter, etc. 
  • holding heavy books in both hands
  • anything utterly boring
  • reports on something including references, etc. (if he did not do the dishes...a history of dishes and its evolution)
  • repetitive "I will not disobey Mistress" handwritten and proofed for neatness
  • scrubbing the floor with a toothbrush in one inch blocks
  • removing fetish, play, contact, etc for a period of time or allowing service without the more fun parts of it
  • hot sauce, salt, etc on the tongue without letting them swallow
  • diapers and no bathroom breaks (though not effective if they have that as a fetish)
  • only allowing cold showers
  • Barney marathon


If a task is not done or not done well, the first thing that happens is it is done over and done correctly.  I do not consider that punishment, simply finishing the task at hand.  once it is done, though, the punishment for not doing it or doing it right the first time will be assigned.

The trick about punishment is to find out what the sub dislikes...and make them do it.

< Message edited by MsKatHouston -- 7/18/2006 9:27:27 AM >


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RE: Punishments that "are" punishments... - 7/18/2006 9:50:01 AM   
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My slave is a pain slut.  When he really screws up, he does not get pain.  He gets pain for pleasure.  
The last time he screwed up was last month when he came home drunk and had been driving around all over the place.   I put a 52 year old man on ten days restrictions.   He hated it.  
Computer restrictions and no talking with the Domme are two others that I use a lot.

Respectfully,  Mistress_Jan

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RE: Punishments that "are" punishments... - 7/18/2006 10:37:07 AM   
zzzstinky


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Thank you...

Exactly what I was thinking about... Although the Barney Marathon seems almost too cruel.
The fact is I would very much desire to please the Domme I hope to serve. But I wish to be honest enough with her to tell her when a punishment is realing trying and or difficult. Simple tasks like sorting her CD's... Or redoing tasks again, even when I think they are perfect. All of these tasks are not enjoyable but I am Thankful as I think they would shape a better slave...

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RE: Punishments that "are" punishments... - 7/18/2006 10:59:52 AM   
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As Kat said, the trick is to find something that the boy dislikes.  If we choose incorrectly and it is something that the boy actually does like (the boy we are currently talking to as a potential likes being spanked/flogged ... and is trying to convince us that he hates it  as if we're that gullible), then we quickly change tactics. 

For some boys that we have been with, a stern look was enough to devistate.  One boy got sent to kneel in the corner.  Current boy has been put in the next room to listen to Holly and I having sex.  Mostly, though, we prefer the reward system - so bad behavior gets ignored, good behavior earns the boys perks.  We'd rather not have to punish at all.

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RE: Punishments that "are" punishments... - 7/18/2006 11:12:09 AM   
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Collecting dog shit from my back yard whilst meditating on the error which earned them that duty and how much better it is to be found pleasing to a Master or Mistress   

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RE: Punishments that "are" punishments... - 7/18/2006 11:19:54 AM   
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I also make them repeat the task,I agree with it not being a punishment but as doing it right..
I use the red giant shoe horn I have and even the ones that enjoy pain...hate that plastic thing.
Kneeling on a sandy hard floor is like the rice.
The ones who have to communicate everyday with Me the punishment is no contact with Me,1day 1st offense : 2days 2nd offense and so on.
I like to use ice chips in the butt crack too or the other way with something hot like Ginger root.
Wearing depends pads is a good one and having them pee and walk around all wet.
On all fours staring at the floor counting to whatever number I choose...since 6 is My favorite number,its usually in increments of 6.

I try to use punishments that are specific to the offender.

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RE: Punishments that "are" punishments... - 7/18/2006 5:58:57 PM   
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I have always found the greatest punishment for any sub is to be ignored... put in the corner if its something mild...... told they are not allowed to call or see me for either a certain length of time for something major.....or if I am really disappointed I don't give them a length of time...I just banish them from my presense and let them wonder when I will call on them again. Before I do anything I explain why.. why they are in the corner or why they are banished....
It gives them time to sit and think about what they did.

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RE: Punishments that "are" punishments... - 7/18/2006 6:07:39 PM   
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While I think us Dommes trade tips and tricks, it ain't much of your business...........

How would you like to be punished, please regale us, because we want to laugh and will never punish you as you want.




Ronne.......

So, tell us what you do that you need punishment for?  Lets get to know each other first, OK?


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RE: Punishments that "are" punishments... - 7/18/2006 6:38:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

While I think us Dommes trade tips and tricks, it ain't much of your business...........

How would you like to be punished, please regale us, because we want to laugh and will never punish you as you want.

Ronne.......

So, tell us what you do that you need punishment for?  Lets get to know each other first, OK?




I tend to agree with "Ronne", I think.   I don't think it's a sub's place to offer punishment suggestions to a Domme.

Be well,
Julie

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RE: Punishments that "are" punishments... - 7/18/2006 11:05:38 PM   
MisPandora


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quote:

ORIGINAL: zzzstinky

Hello all....

Just wondering if any Dommes would be kind enough to share idea's on what some real punishments might be to teach or train a slave. What I mean is of course a whipping may be a punishment but I may equally enjoy it. What I seek is some ideas to offer to a Domme in which it's clear that I won't just enjoy it, or laugh it off. For instance foul language "which I avoid" could be mouth soaping. Not cleaning the dishes right mean doing them "all" again.. What sort of punishment do you think offer powerful behavior lessons?

Thanks in advance...


*blinks* Any submissive who would even think to suggest to me how to punish him (in essence, how to do my job) would be in for a RUDE awakening.

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RE: Punishments that "are" punishments... - 7/18/2006 11:09:38 PM   
MisPandora


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MsKatHouston
  • nose in the corner holding up a dime
  • kneeling on rice, kitty litter, etc. 
  • holding heavy books in both hands
  • anything utterly boring
  • reports on something including references, etc. (if he did not do the dishes...a history of dishes and its evolution)
  • repetitive "I will not disobey Mistress" handwritten and proofed for neatness
  • scrubbing the floor with a toothbrush in one inch blocks
  • removing fetish, play, contact, etc for a period of time or allowing service without the more fun parts of it
  • hot sauce, salt, etc on the tongue without letting them swallow
  • diapers and no bathroom breaks (though not effective if they have that as a fetish)
  • only allowing cold showers
  • Barney marathon


I use many of these punishments, and will add:
-- using their personal toothbrush for toilet cleaning
-- sending them outside to pick up the dog waste with their bare hands
-- sending them to someone else's home for straight-up houseboy work with NO attention paid him at all
-- white noise torture
-- book reports, narratives or homework study assignments, especially menial topics that the slave knows NOTHING about (might as well educate him a little while he's getting his fill of doing things he hates.)

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RE: Punishments that "are" punishments... - 7/18/2006 11:22:36 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

While I think us Dommes trade tips and tricks, it ain't much of your business...........

How would you like to be punished, please regale us, because we want to laugh and will never punish you as you want.




Ronne.......

So, tell us what you do that you need punishment for?  Lets get to know each other first, OK?



I agree me 'ol china.. I was thinking how amusing it would be to have a sub/slave up for punishment to follow a herd of kangaroos in a 40 acre home paddock wearing only things on her feet picking up the 'Roo droppings by hand..... It would bring her down to earth with a sproing..sproing.. sproing.., as the big red boomers bounce this way and that way feeding as they go...


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RE: Punishments that "are" punishments... - 7/19/2006 4:11:41 AM   
soldierfunuk


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Glad its not just me that has to do that then.  Yuck

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RE: Punishments that "are" punishments... - 7/19/2006 4:38:13 AM   
TNstepsout


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quote:

ORIGINAL: SweetDommes
(the boy we are currently talking to as a potential likes being spanked/flogged ... and is trying to convince us that he hates it  as if we're that gullible), then we quickly change tactics. 


hmmmm shouldn't he be punished for lying? *g*

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RE: Punishments that "are" punishments... - 7/19/2006 4:58:29 AM   
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You know, I understand your reason for saying that it isn't a sub's "place" to tell a Mistress how to punish, but I often ASK my slave what he thinks is a fitting punishment, when he's erred....
 
I find that it helps me to know if his perception of the offense matches my own. There are times that he suggests something far less than I'd demand of him, and therefore I know that I must first impress upon him the severity of the "crime". Then there are times that he suggests something far more than I would expect of him, and I know that his repentance, once the punishment does take place is sincere...
 
I worry sometimes that Mistresses proceed without truly LISTENING to their sub/slaves... So much can be learned if we really tune in and listen to their words and their hearts...

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RE: Punishments that "are" punishments... - 7/19/2006 5:36:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Calandra

You know, I understand your reason for saying that it isn't a sub's "place" to tell a Mistress how to punish, but I often ASK my slave what he thinks is a fitting punishment, when he's erred....
 
I find that it helps me to know if his perception of the offense matches my own. There are times that he suggests something far less than I'd demand of him, and therefore I know that I must first impress upon him the severity of the "crime". Then there are times that he suggests something far more than I would expect of him, and I know that his repentance, once the punishment does take place is sincere...
 
I worry sometimes that Mistresses proceed without truly LISTENING to their sub/slaves... So much can be learned if we really tune in and listen to their words and their hearts...


I certainly agree with what you have said here and do that with my boy.  However, I got the impression that he was simply asking for ideas to suggest to any Domme he came across, and therefore saw a hint of topping from the bottom.  

Be well,
Julie

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RE: Punishments that "are" punishments... - 7/19/2006 6:31:29 AM   
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Listening and being tuned in IS her job, yes.

Scouting ideas is not his, if it's for the sake of punishment.

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RE: Punishments that "are" punishments... - 7/20/2006 2:06:51 PM   
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Hey a man has cock and balls for a reason...for me to torture...

When my slave misbehaves I could beat him till my arm was tired about 4 times over and he's just say yes ma'am....but if I REALLY want to punish him...I tied him down and apply a liberal coating of Capsaicin....there is no enjoying that...it is definately a punishment. The fun part is he squirms and moans...and I just love that...and it lasts for about 30 mins even after he's in the shower...

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