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RE: Needles and pins and blood - oh my! - 11/17/2015 12:50:27 PM   
Bunnicula


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Thing is, I'd prepare a lesson plan and expect the work to be done! It's the least sexy job in the whole world lol

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RE: Needles and pins and blood - oh my! - 11/17/2015 5:00:16 PM   
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I understand that - it's why 'schoolteacher' role play just leaves me cold lol

God yes. It squicks me out when some guy wants me to do that. That is one place I just cannot go.

Guys get so excited when they find out the woman they are talking to is a school teacher...

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RE: Needles and pins and blood - oh my! - 11/17/2015 5:05:14 PM   
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This thread is relevant to my own interests. I'm on the fence with needles. I don't like them unless it is for a procedure that needs doing - I almost declined the offer of a local anaesthetic to get the contraceptive implant, then remembered how badly saying no went the last time it was offered, and ran with it. The nurse was good enough that I didn't even feel it going in.

Needle-play looks good aesthetically to me, but I'm not sure how well I would be if I could see it happening. Awareness of what is going on is one thing, seeing the needle go in is quite another.

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RE: Needles and pins and blood - oh my! - 11/17/2015 5:49:33 PM   
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What kind of pain you ask? Needles are a different sensation unto itself. When applied correctly, they seem to almost always flip that switch that sends a bolt of sensation straight to your crotch. There is no warm up with needles. You can warm up with something else and switch to needles, but that seems futile to me. Because needles flip that switch, they are the best warm up. I mean, that is point of a warm up right? Often, I like to start with needles because it pull sher into that head space right from the get go.

My die hard masochist slave, as was true with the die hard masochists before her, can handle starting a scene with just enough eye contact and whispery voice in her ear to get her attention and then . . . slowly push a needle right through her nipple. Her reaction is to reel back from the initial wave of pain and then a few seconds later, I see look of passionate excitement in her eye, she starts rocking her legs back and forth, her jaw drops, her eyes roll and that sweet sexy moan escapes her lips.

I think needles are something everyone with a curiosity about should try. Usually people either absolutely love them or hate them with all their heart. If you like them it's awesome because you will be adding a new and unique sensation to your array of BDSM pleasures.

I am a HUGE needle fan. I have a few needle pics and some tips and tricks, even how to cane a row of corked needles once you have them in. Just ask and I will share what know if anyone is interested.

[ETA] I love needles so much, I got a excited thinking about sticking them in my slave and forgot to mention that the technique you use can affect whether or not you "send a bolt of sensation" straight to their crotch. I can stick someone with a small gauge needle and barely hurt them. Some people stay shallow in the epidermal layer. But I pinch an inch of skin up so I pierce the skin and go subcutaneous before piercing it again on the exit. This seems to get the desired effect better than other methods.



I mean, if you are really good you stick some

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RE: Needles and pins and blood - oh my! - 11/17/2015 10:01:04 PM   
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What size needles are used for needle play typically?

There are needles you barely feel and then there are needs that are OMFG that really hurt! I have had the latter during a surgery while being kept awake. I have to so no thanks, I do not want to do that again LOL.

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RE: Needles and pins and blood - oh my! - 11/18/2015 1:22:53 AM   
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I was asked for information about techniques for caning needles once they were in. I didn't have a photo of the railroad tracks set up handy but I did have one of a caning set up. I am usually having so much fun I forget to take pictures.

Type of needles
The longer 2", 3" (or more) needles work better. Your needle needs to be long enough to go under the skin leaving an inch or so for you to hit with the cane. You need to leave some meat to beat.

You can do this with any gauge needle, so long as you don't beat on the thin gauge needle too hard and bend them or pop the corks off. I prefer heavier gauge needle for this type of play like 18 gauge to 14 gauge. Also, the bigger gauge stays in the cork better than smaller needles.

Type of corks
When you are striking the skin over the needles, they bounce around a lot. You need to cork the ends firmly so the needles don't slide out. It also stops the points from slapping around cutting up the skin.

Mini corks from the craft store are nice if you are spacing the needles out. Wine bottle corks a nice for a tighter pattern and the bigger corks hold more firmly when I get rough. For example, with a chest full of mini corks, if you throw your partner down on the bed face first, some of corks will pop off. But the wine bottle corks and big gauge needles will survive face down play and sex. It tweaks the needles as they move on the bed.

Inserting the needles
I start off making a nice row of needles. If you space them out a bit further than pictured below, like a 1/2 inch or so, they will make very lovely railroad track pattern bruises.

I pinch the skin between thumb and forefinger, pull it up and stick the needle through the flap I created. You can feel it pop once as it penetrates and pop again when it exits. OK, sometimes I twirl the needle and drill it in slowly if the occasion calls for it. :)

Personally, my best results are with 6 to 12 needles per area. It gives me better control with fewer corks to monitor. A tight pattern is about 6 needles per wine cork. To me, it seems like when I have 50 needles with corks on them, my focus gets diverted to monitoring them or fixing the one that popped off.

Applying the corks
With mini corks, I insert the needle through the narrow bottom end, holding the cork carefully on the sides. I am less likely to stick myself than if I push the cork with my thumb on top. I am fluid bonded with my slave so that isn't a big deal . . . but I would hate to stick myself when I am supposed to be sticking her!

With wine corks, I insert the needle into the side. I hold the cork by the top and bottom.

Using the cane
The cane on needles can be intense. So I'll warm them up to it. I use a thin flexible rattan cane like you would an evil stick. I lay the cane down on the patch of flesh over the buried needle shafts, pull it back and let it snap. This method gives me a lot of control. My aim is dead on and I can gauge the force accurately by how far I pull back. It should get a rise out of the most devout masochist.

To be gentle, more sexy and get tactile feedback, I use my finger. I set my middle fingernail on my thumb and flick the needles. I can feel the impact on her soft flesh and then bumping the needles below. It's an awesome feeling for me. Hearing how her moans change as I strike against the needles below her skin. Like the difference between a paddle and bare hand spanking. Feeling their tortured flesh in your hands is nice.

When getting rough, I will swing the cane like normal. I have done that with big and small gauge needles. But over the years, I have come to like the longer big gauge needles so I have a more forgiving target area.

Precautions
Have a stout pair of wire cutters. If you play with a non fluid bonded partner and stick yourself after the needle pierced them, it is a courtesy to cut the end in you off before pulling needle out so you don't contaminate them too.

Note
The person that wrote me also said, "I've gotten some good responses with weaving conductive thread around needles to use with a violet wand." Damn, that sounds like fun. Thanks for the idea.

To the OP, thanks for starting this nice thread.


This pic isn't for caning, but it was the only pic of mini corks I had off hand




Needles with wine corks and a nice fleshy patch set up and ready to be caned




The bruising after caning needles







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RE: Needles and pins and blood - oh my! - 11/18/2015 3:39:01 AM   
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quote:

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What size needles are used for needle play typically?

There are needles you barely feel and then there are needs that are OMFG that really hurt! I have had the latter during a surgery while being kept awake. I have to so no thanks, I do not want to do that again LOL.

I have everything from 14g to 25g. What size I'll use will generally depend on how the bottom can handle the width. The thinner (higher gauge) are usually easier for the bottom just starting out. As they become more accustomed to the activity, you can increase the size and/or the number of needles. If I'm going to use multiple sizes, I'll start with the thinner size and work my way up.

As a fun aside, my needle 'kit' is actually a fishing tackle box. Best thing in the world for those who want to take their needles to play away from home. The top stores gloves, skin cleaner, tools, ribbon, and decorations for the hubs. The lower part has separate boxes so I can keep the various sizes organized in the different containers. Just grab it and go.


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RE: Needles and pins and blood - oh my! - 11/23/2015 5:14:37 AM   
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Warning. This post is not for those who do not like to see needles inserted in others.

Now that I actually know how to do this, I thought I'd add some shots. First, the box I was talking about in the prior post. (Sorry, I don't have a shot of the whole thing opened up.)


Then, a couple randoms of needles. (RS can't have all of the fun.)





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