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Aibo -> RE: Feminists Condone PC Rape (11/21/2015 7:20:01 AM)

@respectmen: Around here feminists generally are left, sometimes even far left. So at least for my neck of the woods that's true.
On top of it they're generally 'green wave hippie socialists' so I am not surprised to see the confusion hinted at by the OP. It's rather typical.

@Tkman117: True, in USA there's some distorted forms of feminism, but the basic idea of gender equality is rather a good thing that some, er make that many countries and locations in the world that could benefit from adapting. That some in an SM context give up such rights voluntarily is another story, but it's done best in a society of equality since it's only there the choice is made by a free independent person. (And indeed, my ex slave did in fact have strong feminist ideas - and was not part of why it ended, said before any of the forum trolls jump on that detail.Gotcha! [:D])

@Greta75: No I don't think one should describe a Turkish person as 'white' though there are white muslims to be found, in south eastern Europe for example.
On first sight you cannot tell what group a certain person might be of, "Christian caucasian", 'Orthodox serb' or belonging to any of the minority muslim groups found in many countries in the area.
Yes it's true that the western world is perceived as having a rape problem compared to Asia, the actual reason is that such is brought into the open here, whereas people tend to hide such in many Asian countries - in some there's not even a good idea to bring the matter to the police. Sad but true.



respectmen -> RE: Feminists Condone PC Rape (11/26/2015 10:10:52 PM)

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of course there is a rape culture in the western world


People who keep thinking this are highly delusional and living in a fantasy world.

If I raped a woman over the weekend and in the lunch room at work on monday I bragged on to my work mates about how I enjoyed raping this woman, I am very sure I would be sacked from the workplace within that day and I would lose friendship of the people at work. Not to mention, reported to the police.

If I went to a pub and randomly had conversations with other drunks and starting bragging on about raping bitches, I am sure I would likely be leaving with a black eye and missing teeth. Not to mention, reported to the police.

If a guy was to make a thread in this forum or any forum about how he enjoys raping women, how long would the thread last and how many people would be giving him the high five?

Even being accused of rape and not proven or convicted, a man's career will still be on the line in this so called rape culture.

Why do men have to hide that they raped a woman? If accused and even guilty of the crime, why do men still deny it? If they were truly in a rape culture, they wouldn't have to be ashamed of it and hide it. There wouldn't be shame against rape if we lived in a rape culture.

"Rape" wouldn't be such a touchy subject if we lived in a rape culture.



Dvr22999874 -> RE: Feminists Condone PC Rape (11/26/2015 10:41:34 PM)

respectmen..........your profile says you are in Australia and you say there is no rape culture here................Would you like to tell these good folks about what's been happening at Duntroon recently ? Or at Cerberus in West Australia?
Of course nobody goes into a pub, club or whatever and brags about raping a woman ( or a male) but maybe you should look at the papers now and again and see just how many rapes DO occur here in a year. Sometimes the victims aren't found. Australia is an excellent place to dispose of bodies.



respectmen -> RE: Feminists Condone PC Rape (11/26/2015 10:44:53 PM)

So just because plenty of rape happens, just like plenty of other crimes, this is the argument that there is a rape culture? Ignore that it's completely condemned by society.



respectmen -> RE: Feminists Condone PC Rape (11/26/2015 10:49:39 PM)

There is plenty of pedophilia going on and it will always remain that way as long as there are a large population of humans on the planet. So just because it does happen and not rarely, we live in a kiddy fiddling culture?

How about no. You are pretty much an instant social outcast if found out by the public that you like kids. But using the same argument as feminists, just because it happens commonly, that must mean we live in a kiddy fiddling culture, despite how heavily condemned it is at large.



Dvr22999874 -> RE: Feminists Condone PC Rape (11/26/2015 10:53:07 PM)

A rape culture that films what is being done and then sends it around to their buddies in the same college ?? Remember the recent cases in Duntroon ? Women being filmed and either watched on screen or being send the video later and the guys who did the rape were the heroes. Go and check it out you tosser.
Next one to check out are the groups that rape women late at night who are going home alone from work or a party etc . How may in the last year ? And how many were killed of those raped



respectmen -> RE: Feminists Condone PC Rape (11/26/2015 11:07:05 PM)

Great argument you have there. So just cherry picking an example of more than one guys liking something, that means there can be a blanket statement over the whole male population and claim that there is a rape culture.

There are examples of kiddy fiddlers who run in groups, rings. So I guess again, using feminist logic, that must mean we live in a kiddy fiddling culture too.



respectmen -> RE: Feminists Condone PC Rape (11/26/2015 11:09:13 PM)

There are large crime gangs who deal with heroin. That means we live in a heroin culture.



Dvr22999874 -> RE: Feminists Condone PC Rape (11/26/2015 11:27:04 PM)

I am sure what respectmen is saying is interesting to some, but I am afraid he grates on me like glass being rubbed on glass, so I have put him on hide. Maybe that way I will see only the intelligent sides to this argument ( until he creates another peewit/sock)



DaddySatyr -> RE: Feminists Condone PC Rape (11/27/2015 12:02:14 AM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

There are large crime gangs who deal with heroin. That means we live in a heroin culture.



I think there's a flaw in your argument, here.

I don't believe that Western Society condones rape, by any stretch of the imagination.

I do believe that (at least here, in America) drugs are condoned, by-and-large. I may be anti-drug use, myself, but my fellow Americans are a bunch of dopers.



Michael



respectmen -> RE: Feminists Condone PC Rape (11/27/2015 12:23:35 AM)

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I do believe that (at least here, in America) drugs are condoned, by-and-large. I may be anti-drug use, myself, but my fellow Americans are a bunch of dopers.


If they were "condoned", you could show them in the open, be shameless about it, and not worry about getting in trouble. Are drug dealers cautious for a reason? Are drug users cautious for a reason? Why are they cautious? Do I need to tell? Are they only cautious because of the police or are they also cautious of people dobbing in?

That said though, drugs are more likely given a pass in society than compared to rape by a long shot. When speaking of something soft like pot, I can see it condoned by and large so your point does stand there. On the other hand, heroin isn't really that accepted in many social circles. So the analogy I made about heroin isn't flawed. That's why I made the analogy about heroin and didn't make it on a general basis on drugs.



freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Feminists Condone PC Rape (11/27/2015 1:37:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

Great argument you have there. So just cherry picking an example of more than one guys liking something, that means there can be a blanket statement over the whole male population and claim that there is a rape culture.

There are examples of kiddy fiddlers who run in groups, rings. So I guess again, using feminist logic, that must mean we live in a kiddy fiddling culture too.

Pot meet kettle!! [8|]

Every one of your posts are cherry-picking feminazi crap and you replay them over and over like a cracked record.
How about a change of tune for once?? Your monotonous ramblings are getting very boring.




crazyml -> RE: Feminists Condone PC Rape (11/27/2015 1:59:24 AM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDHSJd3YQWU

As feminists are usually on the left, you would be hard pressed to find anyone on the left who supports any criticism against muslims or other cultures in general.


Hard pressed? I'm not so sure about that. There's this neato thing on the interweb connected network, called "Google". I think you'll find masses of people who have huge concerns about gender equality in the world.

I know that you don't want to have your mind opened, but it doesn't help your cause when you write nonsense like this down.

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As the whinging feminasties claim rape culture this, rape culture that, they totally miss the elephant in the room. There is even "stare rape" now, men can rape women with their eyeballs. You should also consider looking up "fart rape".


So, you think it should be ok for men to deliberately intimidate women?

Fair enough.

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Yes, feminism is very deranged.



So you think it's "deranged" for women to expect equal treatment in the workplace and society at large?

Fair enough.

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Anyway, this elephant in the room I am talking about is rape gangs, who are usually muslims. This doesn't really stem from the actual religion it's self, this stems from a cultural problem from whatever country they were raised in. This has nothing to do with the said non muslim country they are in. There is no rape culture in countries such as the western world.



Have a pop with google. It's clear that you don't understand what the term "rape culture" means, or the issues that it seeks to explore.

I don't think you can avoid looking really very silly when you speak from a foundation of such ignorance.

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What are the chances of white guys raping in gangs? As it's not culturally acceptable in countries like Australia, American, UK, a white guy telling his mates or brothers that he just raped a bitch, the chances are he will either or both get bashed up and/or reported to the police. On the other hand, these men who come from countries that are mostly or all muslim, its easy for them to tell their mates and brothers who come from the same cultures that they are into raping bitches, this is how gangs are created. It's culturally acceptable where they came from.


You're clearly not familiar with modern pop culture. There is a mountain of factual evidence that shows that there's a real problem with young white men objectifying women.

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Feminists hardly or never touch on this part of the problem.




Oh my... are you doing some sort of "wrong-athon"? Are you collecting for your local MRA association?

How could anyone "respect" someone who talks such nonsense?

It could be that you feel so weak and powerless that you believe you need some mandate that requires people to respect men whether they are worthy of it or not.

It could be that you're so terrified of losing your male privilege that you'll say any shit to try to preserve it.

But.. making shit up is just going to make you look like a stupid loser.

Good luck with that.



thompsonx -> RE: Feminists Condone PC Rape (11/27/2015 4:22:14 AM)


ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

I do believe that (at least here, in America) drugs are condoned, by-and-large. I may be anti-drug use, myself, but my fellow Americans are a bunch of dopers.

Alcohol and nicotine being the two most addictive drugs known to mankind...which is your drug of choice?






thompsonx -> RE: Feminists Condone PC Rape (11/27/2015 6:20:59 AM)

When a Muslim guy does it, they come from backwards cultures,

The library with the largest collection of hand written manuscripts is in that backward culture.



it's understandable. But when a white guy from a modern and more civilized culture does it,


More civilized????Just how would you define "more civilized"?

who is suppose to be better behaved,

Just why do you think white people are better behaved?


it's like, they do get more shit about it.

Why is it in your mind that white guys who rape is somehow worse than some other color?[8|]



respectmen -> RE: Feminists Condone PC Rape (11/27/2015 4:08:11 PM)

crazyml

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I think you'll find masses of people who have huge concerns about gender equality in the world.


There is this thing called "the empathy gap". Feminists are massive offenders of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKJ8x9ut1hU

A perfect example of the empathy gap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M0MW6ON484

It's not only an empathy gap, it's female privilege. But how dare we talk about "female privilege". Shhhh, it's misogyny to even mention it.

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So, you think it should be ok for men to deliberately intimidate women?


Nope. You are totally missing the point as always. It's fucking stupid to define it as "rape". Feminists throw around the word "rape" so easily and blithely. A man can even "rape" by farting. "fart rape" Feminists don't realise that it's taking away the level of seriousness with rape when they take it to such extremes like this. It's like the boy who cried wolf.

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So you think it's "deranged" for women to expect equal treatment in the workplace and society at large?


No, it's deranged when feminists think up such fucking stupid things like I have been talking about. Yet, you totally miss the point and ignore that and come up with something that is totally off the mark of my claim.

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It's clear that you don't understand what the term "rape culture" means, or the issues that it seeks to explore.


It simply means that society is accepting towards rape. This is nothing more than obnoxious hyperbole and androphobia.

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There is a mountain of factual evidence that shows that there's a real problem with young white men objectifying women.


How does objectifying equal rape? Oh, "stare rape" I guess lol. Can feminists get any stupider?

To point out the obvious, women objectify too, but why aren't feminists shouting about that? Oh I'm forgetting, it's a part of being a modern feminist to be a hypocrite. It seems non existent for a feminist to stop being a hypocrite for 5 minutes when it comes to gender discussion.

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It could be that you feel so weak and powerless that you believe you need some mandate that requires people to respect men whether they are worthy of it or not.


I certainly don't feel weak and powerless, I do however think western societies lack respect and empathy for men. For example, look how much consideration and media coverage appears for international women's day compared to international men's day.

It seems that the majority of conversation when it comes to men throughout history to the present, particularly from feminists, it's all focused on all the bad in men while totally ignoring all the good men have done and all the suffering men have done to make society what it is today.

Particularly feminists, they practically spit on the graves of the men from generations ago who did good deeds of hardship and suffering to make things better for everyone else.

This video is a good eye opener to this bigoted mindset on men.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiNHWdQt_rI

There is no thank you and respect from feminists in regards of the good men have done. The ungrateful little brats.

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It could be that you're so terrified of losing your male privilege that you'll say any shit to try to preserve it.


What's left of my so called "male privilege".

Being a male, you are more likely to get harsher punishments for the same crimes compared to women.

You are likely to get taken less seriously being a victim of rape or DV compared to a woman.

Misandry is taken far less seriously compared to misogyny.

Most government health funding will go to women.

Most support for homelessness goes to women.

Child custody. Do I need to say more?

Gender quotas only seem relevant when there are more men than women but hardly or never considered relevant when there are more women at first glance.

Traditional privileges that favour women are still socially accepted. Such as placing the burden on men to pay for everything and do most or all the work in courting. Traditional privileges favouring men, such as, make me a sandwich, condemned! Women get to keep their privileges while men are expected to give theirs up.

A woman unemployed, stay at home parent, living with her parents, doesn't own a car...is way more acceptable compared to a man who has these things happening. That is why it's far more common to call a male a loser compared to calling a female a loser.

Feminism and/or consideration for women's issues, mainstream. Men's rights and/or consideration for men's issues, underground.

I could go on and on. Western women truly have privilege coming out of their ears. It's amazing how feminists only seem to talk about male privilege while totally ignoring a huge fucking elephant in the room, female privilege!



thompsonx -> RE: Feminists Condone PC Rape (11/27/2015 4:13:32 PM)

I could go on and on. Western women truly have privilege coming out of their ears. It's amazing how feminists only seem to talk about male privilege while totally ignoring a huge fucking elephant in the room, female privilege!

Easy way to solve your problem...start wearing a dress and reap all the benifits of sitting down to pee.



respectmen -> RE: Feminists Condone PC Rape (11/27/2015 4:17:02 PM)

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Easy way to solve your problem...start wearing a dress and reap all the benifits of sitting down to pee.


OMG that must be so hard on a gender compared to getting lighter punishments for the same crime, getting more government and social support and funding in being a victim of dv, rape, and homelessness. Having a whopper empathy gap hugely in your favour when it comes to any type of suffering you endure.



thompsonx -> RE: Feminists Condone PC Rape (11/27/2015 4:38:36 PM)


ORIGINAL: respectmen

Easy way to solve your problem...start wearing a dress and reap all the benifits of sitting down to pee.

OMG that must be so hard on a gender compared to getting lighter punishments for the same crime,


There is always some punkassmotherfucker who runs his mouth about shit he knows nothing about but when pressed for details comes up short. Either validate this moronic drivel or be regarded by all as a blowhard who could not get laid in a butt hut with odoms credit card.


getting more government and social support and funding in being a victim of dv, rape, and homelessness. Having a whopper empathy gap hugely in your favour when it comes to any type of suffering you endure.


For phoques sake grow a pair and stop sniviling.



respectmen -> RE: Feminists Condone PC Rape (11/27/2015 4:45:50 PM)

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There is always some punkassmotherfucker who runs his mouth about shit he knows nothing about but when pressed for details comes up short


http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2144002

Criminal sentencing: Do women get off easy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usq-IHT5ARc&index=11&list=PLytTJqkSQqtr7BqC1Jf4nv3g2yDfu7Xmd



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