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Cell -> RE: A Question About Relationships (12/9/2015 4:21:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MissKatya

"girlfriend experience" or GFE is a term used by escorts as a service. Basically it means that he's paying for the escort to play girlfriend...


Ah, I was wondering about that.



OsideGirl -> RE: A Question About Relationships (12/9/2015 4:24:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MikeRaven


So with my girlfriend, we skip all that, I donate $100 and she doesn't talk my right ear off. She has active listening skills, which seems to be rare these days, we cuddle, hug, kiss, etc.


So, essentially you skip mental/emotional interaction, she doesn't talk about herself and you get to do all the talking.

That says a lot.



JanahX -> RE: A Question About Relationships (12/9/2015 4:31:30 PM)

= fast reply =

Obviously you know this is a hooker situation. How do you know this? Because I'm sure plenty of people have told you.
If you want to keep kidding yourself about your "donation" crap - go ahead. That doesn't change a thing.

But like what's already been mentioned - see what happens when you STOP "donating" money for sex with her; and all your fears will come to light.
A Los-Vegas ex-stripper. Lmfao.

pros·ti·tu·tion
ˌprästəˈt(y)o͞oSH(ə)n/
noun
the practice or occupation of engaging in sexual activity with someone for payment.
synonyms: the sex trade, the sex industry, whoring

escort
noun, a term for a woman paid by the hour, not the act, but usually for sex. A prostitute. Often, higher quality and cost compared to street scrag.

girl·friend
ˈɡərlˌfrend/
noun
a regular female companion with whom a person has a romantic or sexual relationship.



LadyPact -> RE: A Question About Relationships (12/9/2015 5:00:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MikeRaven

First of all, she is not a prostitute. I met her on this site and I offered her money and she accepted.

So, being on the site is what makes the exception. Not the fact that she's taking your money for sex.

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To get away from the wild life she moved to where I'm at and now works full-time as a waitress.

OK. As long as she has another job, it doesn't count.


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She said she has never done this before in her whole life.

Is it like on the job training?

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The reason she is taking my offer is because finances are hard right now.

Oh, that's what makes it not prostitution. Well, I mean, as long as times are hard, that makes all of the difference.

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I'm not being fooled by her because prostitutes do not french kiss their clients and spend the night just for $100.00.

Did you get those rules from "Pretty Woman"?

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It's an authentic relationship and she has authentic feelings for me as well as I do for her.

Then stop paying her. Or, keep paying her and keep trying to convince yourself that sex for money isn't the bottom line here.

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My argument isn't this like any other relationship based such as those people who are in it for benefits?

Sure, if you're basing it on other relationships that aren't based on emotional ties as the primary reason for the relationship. First time you get sick, let me know if she comes and takes care of you.

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People keep saying, "Oh, you've posted similar questions." So what? People post all sorts of questions and a lot of time it's the same variation.

Well, some of us try to be more original than to post the same thing every couple of weeks but whatever floats your boat.



thedeityspeaks -> RE: A Question About Relationships (12/9/2015 6:13:00 PM)

People keep saying, "Oh, you've posted similar questions." So what? People post all sorts of questions and a lot of time it's the same variation.


This would be a valid argument if you weren't doing it from at least two accounts. Is masturbating quietly not a thing anymore?



WickedsDesire -> RE: A Question About Relationships (12/10/2015 12:58:56 PM)

I dated a pro domme once – I was unaware that was what she done initially and I am okay with some of them, far from all, and when it clicked I was still okay with it. She merely required me to by the cream cakes when I visited her, and her us cream cakes visiting my wretched hovel….and to be humped clean across the living room floor and ravished atop my kitchen table – only that one despite my profile words – to the point she ran like the Amazon in full spate. I never had the moral convo with her about why she did what she did but she chose a club invite to I I said nope I have CFS not possible and it’s my birthday. The choice was her to make although she did not Fully understand the nature of my lurgy till one of her implants exploded (leaked)..strange how people see things in different moments of time.

Someone said it before me if they are both okay with it fine - these are mighty fine words.

I grew up poor, yet I do not desire cash, nor value it – I value souls not a secret. If I thought this was about sugarbeings and cash vacuums or give me all your cash whores….my words would not be so kind.

If op is blootering this across more than one forum I am going to ask why are you doing so?



Greta75 -> RE: A Question About Relationships (12/10/2015 3:31:02 PM)

Mike, there is nothing wrong with your relationship.

But I have a feeling, you really care for her and you hope what she's feeling for you, is more than the financial arrangement that you guys have with each other.

And while there are rare cases where, initially even if the woman is with the guy for pay out in the first place can genuinely fall for him.

I know a guy who told me how when he was wooing this girl, he was rich in multi-millions and spoil the crap out of her when he was infatuated by her. Adored her and married her. His business failed, he actually went bankrupt. He went into depression. His wife didn't have to work in the past but she went out to get a job and supported him while he was in his depression and she lifted him, kick his ass, and he said when he woke up and realise, she hasn't left him yet, he gain a new determination to fix his own life and get back on track again, and give her everything she deserve.

And he did.

In my life, one of the things that keep me from being too cynical is because of the incredible love stories I've heard from couples who lasted, and each of them always have something interesting to tell you how it happened.

But there are also many men who lost wealth and their spouse left them, even though their spouse hooked up with them when they were poor. So it could swing either way.

You have to prepare for that if it's not what you think it is. If it is, I am happy for you.



seekingreality -> RE: A Question About Relationships (12/10/2015 11:22:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MikeRaven


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ORIGINAL: cindyluvNY

I didn't know a prostitute can develop authentic feelings for her clients. Does she have authentic feelings with the rest of her clients, or are you special somehow?
Are you sure you aren't being fooled by her? A lot of business people (not just prostitutes) are quite savvy and they know exactly what to say and how to say it. Anything for the money.

By the way, my comment is directed toward the OP, but in my comment section it says, (in reply to littleladybug). I don't know why it's there.


First of all, she is not a prostitute. I met her on this site and I offered her money and she accepted. We met at Starbucks to see if we clicked. In my opinion she is a "10." As I got to know her, she said she was a stripper in Las Vegas. To get away from the wild life she moved to where I'm at and now works full-time as a waitress. She said she has never done this before in her whole life. The reason she is taking my offer is because finances are hard right now.

So there is "no other clients." Just me. I'm not being fooled by her because prostitutes do not french kiss their clients and spend the night just for $100.00.

It's an authentic relationship and she has authentic feelings for me as well as I do for her. My argument isn't this like any other relationship based such as those people who are in it for benefits?

People keep saying, "Oh, you've posted similar questions." So what? People post all sorts of questions and a lot of time it's the same variation.


1. She is a prostitute; you are her john. If it pleases you to think otherwise, that's your business.
2. Maybe she isn't sleeping with other men for money; maybe she is. If it pleases you to think she isn't that's your business.
3. Maybe she has done this before; maybe she hasn't. Maybe she is telling the truth; maybe she is lying. Do what you want.
4. If it's working for you, cool. If you feel a need to go online and argue with strangers about why your "relationship" is OK, maybe it isn't.



Dvr22999874 -> RE: A Question About Relationships (12/10/2015 11:28:52 PM)

I have to admit I am totally baffled by what appears to be mostly an American obsession with how evil prostitutes are and prostitution is. It's just another job for the gods sakes and the women who do it, do it as well or as badly as any other worker around the industries. Legalise it and get over it.



Dvr22999874 -> RE: A Question About Relationships (12/10/2015 11:40:19 PM)

cindyluv...................have you ever asked any of your friends who are prostitutes how THEY feel about the business and the way they are denigrated by so many people and hounded by the law ? Ask them; you may find it interesting......................if they tell you the truth of course *smile*



sexyred1 -> RE: A Question About Relationships (12/11/2015 4:15:52 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MikeRaven


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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

What would happen if you began spending that $120.00 on taking her to dinner and a movie?




I've gone on one too many dates where I do spend that kind of money. Many women have the attitude, "I'm a quality woman and if a man is interested in me he will take me to a quality restaurant." And rightly so! So they ask me to take them to this expensive restaurant. They always order alcoholic beverages, appetizers and desert. I always tip 20%. So the bill is close to $100. Then if we go to a movie it's another $50.00. And the whole time she talks my right ear off telling me all the drama in her life.

So with my girlfriend, we skip all that, I donate $100 and she doesn't talk my right ear off. She has active listening skills, which seems to be rare these days, we cuddle, hug, kiss, etc.


If you found other women you dated to lack active listening skills perhaps you were not interesting enough. If I am interested in someone, I listen as well as talk. You may think they were talking too much because it wasn't about you.

As for your girlfriend experience, her listening skills are assuredly connected to what you pay her.

Relationships are all different, just don't be in denial of what yours is.



LadyConstanze -> RE: A Question About Relationships (12/11/2015 6:15:00 AM)


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ORIGINAL: seekingreality



So there is "no other clients." Just me. I'm not being fooled by her because prostitutes do not french kiss their clients and spend the night just for $100.00.






I think they call that girlfriend experience, but yeah, for $100 a night you get that damned cheap, you are underpaying her!



Bhruic -> RE: A Question About Relationships (12/11/2015 6:44:35 AM)

But don't you think that's true of any relationship? If you take away the "produce and service" one is providing the relationship goes "poof."

That is true of business relationships... but not of intimate ones. And even a business relationship can not be one sided.

Intimate relationships work when both parties offer something equally to each other... things like trust, affection, caring.



malefica -> RE: A Question About Relationships (12/11/2015 7:44:07 AM)

So, what about those who split the bill?



zombiegurlsos -> RE: A Question About Relationships (12/11/2015 8:25:00 AM)


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ORIGINAL: malefica

So, what about those who split the bill?


you can split the bill or spread your legs, it is all about the same type of exchange.....



OsideGirl -> RE: A Question About Relationships (12/11/2015 9:02:20 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874

I have to admit I am totally baffled by what appears to be mostly an American obsession with how evil prostitutes are and prostitution is. It's just another job for the gods sakes and the women who do it, do it as well or as badly as any other worker around the industries. Legalise it and get over it.

I have no problem with her being a prostitute, but apparently he does. He's the one who keeps saying he's paying her and then insisting that she's not a prostitute and that it's beyond a business relationship.



LadyConstanze -> RE: A Question About Relationships (12/11/2015 10:09:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874

I have to admit I am totally baffled by what appears to be mostly an American obsession with how evil prostitutes are and prostitution is. It's just another job for the gods sakes and the women who do it, do it as well or as badly as any other worker around the industries. Legalise it and get over it.



I'm all for legalizing it, at least then he would have to pay her a fair wage, $100 a night sounds like a ripoff, plus on top of the sex she has to listen to him talking about himself, I'd say even with that being her hourly rate and she just would have to listen, she'd be grossly underpaid.



seekingreality -> RE: A Question About Relationships (12/11/2015 2:01:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze


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ORIGINAL: seekingreality



So there is "no other clients." Just me. I'm not being fooled by her because prostitutes do not french kiss their clients and spend the night just for $100.00.






I think they call that girlfriend experience, but yeah, for $100 a night you get that damned cheap, you are underpaying her!



I didn't write the above. The OP did.



LadyConstanze -> RE: A Question About Relationships (12/11/2015 2:25:49 PM)

Sorry, just tried to shorten the quote... My mistake



MuscleBoundDom -> RE: A Question About Relationships (12/15/2015 8:10:49 AM)

To the OP...

BDSM does not involve in anything illegal. It had nothing to do with it or encourages it. When people post, "I'm paying a woman for sex" this has nothing to do with BDSM. It's prostitution and it's illegal. It's only in the BDSM community where they don't view prostitutes as sexually exploited women. It's only in the BDSM community where they don't believe prostitutes usually have drug problems. Just google "Prostitution and Drug Abuse" to find out.

Just saying....



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