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RE: Exercise tips for a woman about 325 lbs - 12/15/2015 6:25:51 PM   
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Holy moly. I had no idea how much needed to be done before and after her surgery.

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RE: Exercise tips for a woman about 325 lbs - 12/15/2015 6:33:37 PM   
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It's a pretty serious surgery but will be fab for her.

Sent you a few links with the basics as a PM, feel free to ask if you are unsure or in doubt, we made a few mistakes and if you can avoid them, they weren't in vain.

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RE: Exercise tips for a woman about 325 lbs - 12/15/2015 6:39:28 PM   
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Thank you, Lady C. That was very thoughtful of you. I'll open in the morning when my brain is less foggy.
Again, thank you. Thank you all who took the time to share your advice and experience.

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RE: Exercise tips for a woman about 325 lbs - 12/15/2015 7:05:31 PM   
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The wheelchair is a rental. I will call when I'm out of it and they'll pick it up. The rest I keep. But everything needs to be sized to the patient. The walker the hospital gave me when I was there was too tall. Once PT came by, they found me a shorter one.

The OT came by yesterday and said the wheelchair was set too high. Since The Man has all the tools, he lowered it today.

She can call the hospital social worker now to start the process. With luck, they'll give you one PT visit ahead of time and they will give her a sheet of exercises as well as check out the house. Otherwise the PT department in the hospital might give them to her.

If you won't have a hospital bed, you might consider a bed rail. The Man cobbled one up. Falling is the worst possible thing. Falling off a walker, falling out of bed. Will you be able to hold her up the first few days if she can't stand up alone? That first week was rough, I couldn't even stand up out of the wheelchair by myself. Nor could I get the wheelchair over the threshold into the bathroom, I needed him to push me.

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RE: Exercise tips for a woman about 325 lbs - 12/15/2015 7:13:51 PM   
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I can help support her, but if she needs a bed pan and peri care I have gloves and hand soap lol.


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RE: Exercise tips for a woman about 325 lbs - 12/15/2015 7:23:22 PM   
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My back surgery I thought would be a cake walk.

I was so wrong. I walked about 5 miles over the course of a day so when my doc was like "When I see you in 4 weeks you need to be walking 5 miles over the course of a day" I was like "Uh...I got this!" WRONG. So so wrong. I took off the first day (because you have to or else scar tissue then more surgery and pain, etc). I walked half a mile away from my house, ended up crying in pain, alone, with no one else home and just sitting on the ground until a very kind stranger came along and helped me back to my doorstep. I was so surprised by how hard it was and how much went into it.

I think you're off to a really good start- ask the doctors for suggestions, and I do recommend a few sessions with a PT. Heck- I still do all the exercises they gave me on the daily (mostly).

Swimming (once I was cleared) has been great. I need to get back to it. Plus- and everyone hates to hear this- but a strong core is paramount I think. Its like half of what I do- but I have back issues, not knee, but in the end- a strong core is important for both. I do a good deal of pilates. Strength is where I recommend starting until you're stronger. there are like...hand bikes....I don't know what they are really called, but they had me do a ton of that when my mobility was poor. Its cardio and you can change resistance so you get some strength training too.

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RE: Exercise tips for a woman about 325 lbs - 12/15/2015 8:15:37 PM   
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http://www.walmart.com/ip/20864171?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&adid=22222222228015556207&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=40332038312&wl4=&wl5=pla&wl6=78294176432&veh=sem

Like that! That can go on the floor for low body, table top for upper body.

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RE: Exercise tips for a woman about 325 lbs - 12/15/2015 8:57:58 PM   
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Core crunches - essentially tighten the adominal muscles and hold for a 10 counts and repeat.

Arms - with arms out straight - push down as many times you can. Push up as many times as you can. Push forward as many times as times as you can and then push back.

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RE: Exercise tips for a woman about 325 lbs - 12/15/2015 9:37:20 PM   
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https://www.octanefitness.com/octaneblog/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/products_slideshow__xr4_advanced-training.jpg

This will probably cost a bomb, but I always thought this is a great zero impact machine that can give you a full body toning and cardio, IF one is on recovery. And all the required support for weak legs.

I got something similar when I had my back issue and lost the use of my legs for 2 weeks.

Had to combine it with yoga and Pilates though, and physiotherapy.

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RE: Exercise tips for a woman about 325 lbs - 12/16/2015 1:55:36 PM   
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A strong core, certainly. But a walker really means you're using your shoulders to walk. You hold yourself up off the ground with your shoulder muscles holding you up from the walker, then swing the good leg forward, balance on it. And people aren't meant to walk on their hands. Optimally the bad leg is hooked around the knee of the good one, to make sure it gets no use. That's the theory, but I can't do that yet.

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RE: Exercise tips for a woman about 325 lbs - 12/19/2015 6:43:13 PM   
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WinsomeDefiance, where about are you located? Here in the US, the Lions club has medical equipment for loan. Some even have hospital beds for loan for as long as you need them. Everything is free. When my partner needed a hospital bed, they not delivered it but set it up as well. They were a God send.


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RE: Exercise tips for a woman about 325 lbs - 12/20/2015 11:02:12 AM   
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Kay has really been working on her upper body strength and has upped the weights to 30 lbs and increased her reps. We both have, actually. Which I think is great because, yes, using your arms to beat your body weight is hard!

I live in Mi. I'm pretty sure there's a Lions Club just a mile away. They have bingo on Sunday's. Irrelevant, I know but made me chuckle.

I hope, not certain, but I hope she is getting some strength in her core as she is short and has to balance herself on the weight bench as she leans back and up (similar to a crunch) with the weight pulley. I don't know the names of the exercises so I'm not sure how to describe it. I am going to research some core exercises for her.

I tried to get her to beat up things with me, as I'm working with a Bo staff and loving it, but apparently she's a over not a fighter. Bah! Beating up the vertical bar is fun. She's missing out!

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RE: Exercise tips for a woman about 325 lbs - 12/20/2015 6:53:28 PM   
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Take a look at these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc-4jcH_HqM

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RE: Exercise tips for a woman about 325 lbs - 2/1/2016 7:32:32 AM   
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One month living 24/7 in a sauna drinking only water and liquid food supplements would do the trick.

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RE: Exercise tips for a woman about 325 lbs - 2/1/2016 8:01:35 PM   
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She had the surgery two weeks ago, can we get an update?

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RE: Exercise tips for a woman about 325 lbs - 2/1/2016 10:12:45 PM   
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She had to postpone the surgery. The doctor wants her to continue to lose more weight and scheduled a follow up in March.

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RE: Exercise tips for a woman about 325 lbs - 2/2/2016 4:52:42 AM   
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I can't imagine anything better for a bad knee and legs than water resistance and swimming or even just holding on to a boy and swimming that way.*

So many good tips here I can't really add anything. Be there to support her. I think that there are some exercises with with elastics that you can do together, or using a medicine ball for example.
It's also safer than fixed weights because of how the resistance slowly builds up, unless you overdo it and get that harsh pullback when you're dead tired.







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RE: Exercise tips for a woman about 325 lbs - 2/2/2016 10:30:09 AM   
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Too funny :)

Also, getting the medicine ball tomorrow, as well as a bike trainer. We are extremely excited and impatient for them to arrive.

I'm so very inspired by her commitment. She is up in the morning exercising and has gone from being almost bed-ridden and having very little independence to exercising an hour a day and regaining much of her independence.

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RE: Exercise tips for a woman about 325 lbs - 2/2/2016 12:00:22 PM   
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She had to postpone the surgery. The doctor wants her to continue to lose more weight and scheduled a follow up in March.



Not a bad thing, really, weight is the biggest risk factor in any surgery so the less blubber she has, the better and faster is she going to recover

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RE: Exercise tips for a woman about 325 lbs - 2/2/2016 2:58:32 PM   
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Kay has really been working on her upper body strength and has upped the weights to 30 lbs and increased her reps. We both have, actually. Which I think is great because, yes, using your arms to beat your body weight is hard!



In general, unless it's against doctor's advice, when doing weight training lower reps with higher weights are almost always superior to higher reps with lower weights.

For weightloss she should be doing a first set of reps of around 20-30, with weights heavy enough that the last few reps cause her serious effort, but still light enough so that she can maintain good form all the way to the end.
Form is the most important thing when lifting weights. Use bad form, and you set yourself up for more injuries, and will decrease training efficiency.

After her first set of reps, she should be tired enough to have to take a couple minute break, and then do another set of reps until she starts to lose her form again (however many that is). Again take about a 2-3 minute break, and repeat the reps until she fails form again.
Rinse and repeat until the number of reps she can complete in good form is less than 10.

When weight training effectively, no matter what it is you are doing, you always want to train until you fail form and then stop and take a break, and you always want to pick weights heavy enough so that you will fail form in less than 30 reps.

Slower and controlled is better than faster and more. If you don't have weights heavy enough to be able to train to failure in under 30 reps at a normal speed, slow down the exercise.
Go as slowly as you can through the motion, focusing heavily on perfect control of your form, and on maintaining an even speed.
When you slow down, and focus on your form, lighter weights will become more effective than a higher weight done quicker. Again, you should slow down enough so that you start losing your ability to maintain good form in under 30 reps. If this means that you have to go at a snail's speed, so be it.
Do not ever try to go fast when training with weights, especially if you're a beginner. Training fast will cause you to flail about, unable to control your form, and will get you injured eventually. Weights should never be handled at a speed greater than with which you gently pet a dog/cat.

Slowing down even more than that, with lower weights is often useful for extreme beginners, because lower weights offer more control, which decreases injuries. Slowing down also forces you to pay more attention to using the correct form, which again is extremely useful for beginners.

Nearing the end of a set you'll find yourself having the tendency to want to speed up. This is because you're starting to lose the control needed to maintain good form due to muscle fatigue. Don't give into the temptation to do so. If you cannot complete the set at a controlled speed, then just don't complete the set. Rep goals are just random numbers we make up to measure our goals by. You need to train towards increasing your fitness, not to some fictitious number. If that means that you end your set a couple reps shy from what you were able to do last week, so be it, no big deal, because you've already trained to your maximum potential for that exercise, that rep, that day.

If you go higher than 30 reps than that per set, you're losing the benefits of the weights, and might as well just do the exercise without any weights at all. (Although with some people who are really severely out of shape, some exercises even done without weights will be difficult enough, even without weights, that they cannot complete 30 reps in good form when starting out, in which case weights should obviously be skipped until they can.)



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