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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/30/2015 6:31:12 PM   
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I have tried both internet exploder and foxfrieir


Odd. Did you try copying and pasting the URLs and bringing them up manually? I don't want to utterly derail this thread into tech support.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/30/2015 6:31:13 PM   
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no, it makes three out of three links that you cannot figure out...


Well comrade what is the secret. Because clicking on the link does not work.



"comrade: a fellow socialist or communist"

if you get that from any of my posts, neverminding that I have corrected you before about this, youre even more irrational than I thought.

and not that your getting to the websites really matters anyways. they won't fit your narrative of "amerika" as a racist and evil place, so I wont be expecting any "I stand corrected" posts from you anytime soon.



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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/30/2015 6:40:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ifmaz

Odd. Did you try copying and pasting the URLs and bringing them up manually? I don't want to utterly derail this thread into tech support.

Yes

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/30/2015 6:49:25 PM   
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Well comrade what is the secret. Because clicking on the link does not work.



"comrade: a fellow socialist or communist"

You don't actually own a dictionary do you

if you get that from any of my posts, neverminding that I have corrected you before about this, youre even more irrational than I thought.


You have no validation that you actually think

and not that your getting to the websites really matter anyways. they won't fit your narrative of "amerika" as a racist and evil place,


You will have to show me where I have posted such drivil.


so I wont be expecting any "I stand corrected" posts from you anytime soon.

Since you have yet to post anything that would correct my post you probably ought not to hold your breath. Should such an unlikely occurance happen you may rest assured that a man always recognizes his errors...unlike punkassmotherfuckers who slink off like a yellow back mouth cur.


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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/30/2015 7:16:14 PM   
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thank you bama,

Get a room you two.

and for some fascinating history:

"Documents on the First Congress Debate on Arms and Militia"


That makes three out of three links that do not work


I'm only having trouble with the first link.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/30/2015 7:19:04 PM   
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Excellent post Bounty. I'll buy you a drink but no need to get a room. That's Thompsons thing.

I think he really got ya with the punkassmotherfucker thing though

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/30/2015 8:58:18 PM   
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"Perhaps you could show us in the debates or anyplace else besides your empty head that that was a cause or driving force behind the 2nd ammendment?"

If you have sufficient reading comprehension the text within statews it quite clearly.

It uses "free state" it uses "militia" ut when it comes to "People" it says "shall not be infringed".

Period.

T^T

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/30/2015 9:02:37 PM   
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"This is what I get

The website declined to show this webpage "


Do you blame them ?

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/30/2015 9:09:44 PM   
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"Yes it is true you may not own slaves any more....that really seems to bother you doesn't it? "

If you understood the law you would know that you cannot own property or even a vehicle.

With a vehicle, the MSO is recorded by the state and a "Certificate Of Title" is issued. The MSO is destroyed. The state owns the vehicle and you are holder in good conduct. Therefore they can put any limitations on its use the damnwell please.

And this applies to land as well, otherwise they would never be able to tax it because they would not have any lawful right to take it away from you if you do not comply with their terms of use.

For someone who thinks they are as smart as you think you are, I_ am surprised that you did not know this.

Well not really after reading you a bit. I got stuff from ex-Harvard law professors and the like. You got shit. And it is proven to work in court because a buddy of mine is no longer a felon, even though he got busted with a grow room after selling to a guy with a wire.

You really should stop calling people stupid. You are in no position to do so.

T^T

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/30/2015 11:15:22 PM   
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Neither of your links work.

http://www.theroot.com/articles/politics/2013/01/second_amendment_slave_control_not_the_aim.html.

https://historyandancestry.wordpress.com/2013/12/08/was-the-2nd-amendment-about-preserving-slavery/"

2nd Amendment Passed to Protect Slavery? No!
Was the 2nd Amendment About Preserving Slavery?

K.


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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/31/2015 4:21:43 AM   
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Excellent post Bounty. I'll buy you a drink but no need to get a room. That's Thompsons thing.

I think he really got ya with the punkassmotherfucker thing though


wait, I thought you were the "pamf"!?


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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/31/2015 5:09:19 AM   
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The what ?? Oh........I get it.....yeah I think I was once but you're it now

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/31/2015 5:51:44 AM   
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http://www.theroot.com/articles/politics/2013/01/second_amendment_slave_control_not_the_aim.html.

https://historyandancestry.wordpress.com/2013/12/08/was-the-2nd-amendment-about-preserving-slavery/"
[/quote]
2nd Amendment Passed to Protect Slavery? No!
Was the 2nd Amendment About Preserving Slavery?

Thank you for those two links. I found them most interesting in that they support many of the points made in the cite I posted. They also make some interesting counterpoints to hartmans contentions. One, that the second ammendment was after the constitution was ratified ,seems to contend that the ammendments were not a concession to the anti-federalist for signing onto the constitution which is clearly not supported by the historical record.
Another is that ther were no significant slave uprising to be surpressed yet later in the essay he mentions the turner uprising which was the most noted of many recorded uprisings. Yet anotother point in issue is on the one had claiming that the militias fought and won the revolutionary war and later admitting that the militias had little do with that conflict and later in the war of 1812.
While there are contradictions in the cite it is on the whole contributory to this discussion and I thank you for bringing it to the forum.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/31/2015 6:01:44 AM   
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"Yes it is true you may not own slaves any more....that really seems to bother you doesn't it? "

If you understood the law you would know that you cannot own property or even a vehicle.

True on the vehicle but not true on real property.

And this applies to land as well, otherwise they would never be able to tax it because they would not have any lawful right to take it away from you if you do not comply with their terms of use.

If one owns ones land and patents it one has an "unasailable title" I have such and for that and other considerations I have not paid property tax in thirty years.

For someone who thinks they are as smart as you think you are, I_ am surprised that you did not know this.

I am as knowledgible as I think I am. I know a great deal more than you as I have demonstrated numerous times.

Well not really after reading you a bit. I got stuff from ex-Harvard law professors and the like. You got shit. And it is proven to work in court because a buddy of mine is no longer a felon, even though he got busted with a grow room after selling to a guy with a wire.

You really should stop calling people stupid. You are in no position to do so.

I only call ignorant people ignorant and I only call stupid people stupid. You are quite aware of whom I call punkassmotherfuckers.


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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/31/2015 7:10:31 AM   
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The what ?? Oh........I get it.....yeah I think I was once but you're it now


im on another thread shootin' to become a racist too....

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/31/2015 8:08:48 AM   
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im on another thread shootin' to become a racist too....

I would posit that you are right on target.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/31/2015 10:15:14 AM   
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"If one owns ones land and patents it one has an "unasailable title" I have such and for that and other considerations I have not paid property tax in thirty years."

How many people have that ?

It is almost a moot point with the banks having liens on just about everything. Oh, and if you ever want to get a loan on it of course you know it ain't happening.

Also, you actually CAN get an MSO for a car. Of course you have to pay cash, and then you cannot get plates for it. The last state that would issue plates on an MSO IIRC was Tennessee and who knows if they still do.

T^T

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/31/2015 11:43:27 AM   
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The what ?? Oh........I get it.....yeah I think I was once but you're it now


im on another thread shootin' to become a racist too....


Yeah, all conservative types are racist, and don't forget sexist bigot and homophobes.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/31/2015 1:38:48 PM   
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evil, greedy, hate the poor, oh and xenophobes too!

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 1/1/2016 9:48:32 AM   
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"If one owns ones land and patents it one has an "unasailable title" I have such and for that and other considerations I have not paid property tax in thirty years."

How many people have that ?

Anyone who owns their property outright with no encumbrances and chooses to do so.

It is almost a moot point with the banks having liens on just about everything. Oh, and if you ever want to get a loan on it of course you know it ain't happening.

Why would anyone mortgage their home? You wouldn't mortgage your kids would you?



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