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LadyPact -> RE: Popular BDSM educator/author arrested (1/13/2016 5:05:02 AM)
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I'm going to try this without messing up the quotes. It's caffeine ingestion time in the morning, which makes me prone to mistakes. Forgive me in advance if I make any.
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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
I am here, got here before I knew the legal status of all of this, but it doesn't make me give it a second thought. Its easy for me to say that, as a bottom, but I happen to have an over inflated sense of personal responsibility and a serious need for self-reflection that makes me be overly cautious (after a couple of early mistakes).
No offense to you or any bottom/s-types but as far as most legal matters go, you are in a munch better position than any top. You're probably not going to jail for any of the actual BDSM stuff for being the receiver. If you're playing at home in private, the majority of the time, you're not doing anything that will result in you wearing prison orange. There are situations where you could, but legally, if the cops are taking someone, it's usually the top.
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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
But the fact is that there is a lot of potential for abuse in this lifestyle, and we have to somehow find a way to account for that, so that bdsm-friendly laws don't open the door for abuse. The big question is how to do that. Much easier said than done.
Both in the lifestyle and out, I'm afraid. One thing I don't ever want to see happening is situations where we're talking about domestic violence and people start getting away with hitting their non consenting vanilla partner by using the 'we were just engaging in BDSM' excuse to escape the law. I have absolutely no idea how to avoid that potential.
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This is my problem with the whole situation-he is an adult, one who is supposedly well aware of the risks of the lifestyle. He knows what is appropriate and what isn't. He should know how to protect himself in the lifestyle and how to watch after others, particularly submissives. I mean come on, he wrote an entire book about submissives of a particular mindset that has been fairly well received by the bdsm community. So he isn't exactly 'unaware' of the basic psychology involved in TPE relationships. But he is still okay with risking a 16 year old's girl health and well-being? Bullshit.
It's a stretch, but he's really close to what would have been called a 'position of trust' because of those things. He doesn't qualify legally. (Teacher, therapist, etc.) There's kind of undertones of it and if this thing goes to trial, rather than plea, I think a smart prosecutor will try to use that angle.
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His grooming of her and the attempts to evade detection are textbook examples of a predatory pedophile.
It was the evading detection that got me, too. It's certainly going to pose a problem for his defense.
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So apparently I missed that ad, but honestly I would almost prefer that someone who falls for that get caught up in the sting and be punished. Because those are people who are completely willing to ignore consent. They deserve any punishment they get and I prefer they were taken out of the equation so that is one less potential predator to worry about.
The ad is still there, in another section. There are people who honestly wouldn't know any better or think it through.
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Yeah, I went looking for it and couldn't find it either. Strange.
I don't know if maybe that thread had some kind of serious issue on it. Thankfully, other folks have posted the link to the original story on other threads. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/07/fbi-uncovers-red-state-sex-dungeon-ring.html
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