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EnglishDomNW -> RE: Second hand smoke (8/3/2006 5:19:13 PM)
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ORIGINAL: MistressLorelei
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ORIGINAL: EnglishDomNW
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ORIGINAL: MistressLorelei
If you guys want to smoke... do it, just don't do it where others want to breathe indoor air which does not contain carcinogens from your cigarettes. Fill your homes with all the smoke you like, and smoke in establishments which are pro-cancer anytime you wish.
I edited this rant.
Please remember, 99.99999999999999% of smokers will never smoke around you your whole life so as a group, we don't need your permission or approval to do something we enjoy.
Anyway, to show you how ludicrously the anti-smoking lobby get about things, they complained about James Bond being shown smoking a cigar in "Die Another Day". Despite the fact he had unprotected sex, drove like a lunatic through crowded areas firing a hail of bullets throughout the film, the biggest complaint was "he smoked a cigar".
You have to wonder at some point "are they really complaining about smoking?"
Or is it just an excuse to attack people doing something (legal) they don't like?
Get a new witch to hunt, I'm going for a cigarette.
(Rant over)
I think the anti-smoking people have issues that aren't related to smoking.
99.99999999999999% of smokers? Okay, if you say so. But if that is true... so what? Before smoking was banned in public places, here in Florida, there was plenty of smoke entering my lungs, while at work, the hallways, restaurants, etc. Enough smoke in fact, that the government felt compelled to tell the smokers they would have to take their pollutants outside, so not to harm those who didn't wish to share their bad habit and their potential illnesses and disease.
Indeed, hence the fact I don't - and never will - smoke in the presence of anyone who would object
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You most certainly do need permission to do something you enjoy.... when it means harming another while you do it.
But since I stated throughout this thread I don't do it around anyone who would object, I thankfully don't need your permission for it. Nor does anyone who doesn't smoke around you
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Our lifestyle is based on safe, sane, and consensual.... which includes not harming another without his consent.
I'm not harming you by my smoking.
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You are right, this non-smoker does have issues about something besides smoking. Smoking is fine if you want to do it without harming anyone else.
I know.
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I have issues wth people who think it's more important for them to have their freedom (in this case, their right to smoke anywhere they please), than for me to have my freedom (in this case the right to not be forced to inhale their harmful smoke).
This is where we agree - if people smoke around you, you have every right to be offended. But what I object to is the extent to which this progresses. Someone earlier believed that if I was smoking on a street and they were 100 yards away on the other side, they could still smell the smoke and therefore it could still be doing them harm. Whatever your position on smoking, that is clearly beyond absurd.
I totally accept that nobody should smoke within a reasonable distance of a non-smoker. You don't need our habit affecting your health. The only objection I have is when it stops being a health issue and just becomes a witch hunt of people doing something you personally find distasteful.
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Personally, I don't see how anyone would want to smoke around others in a public place. I don't smoke, but if I did, I wouldn't want to make others share my cigarette against their will. I stay at home when I have a contagious cold or virus, because I don't want to expose others to my potentially harmful germs.
Absolutely. Most of the smokers I know don't do it around people who would object. If people smoke irresponsibly, that's that particular individual smokers fault, not everyone who smokes cigarettes.
While the anti-smoking lobby state that they have every right to avoid being subjected to second-hand smoke, we smokers have an equal right to enjoy doing what we do in places that non-smokers are clearly not going to be affected and not be told we can't do it just because non-smokers personally don't like it.
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