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NorthernGent -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/10/2016 2:17:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MariaB quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact The site has a responsibility. Go read ToS. Your right, yes, actually it does. Its illegal to deliberately delete evidence that could later be used in a court of law. Well, someone making an accusation on a message board is hardly evidence.

royalarchmason -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/10/2016 2:22:38 PM)
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NorthernGent -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/10/2016 2:47:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent quote: ORIGINAL: MariaB quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact The site has a responsibility. Go read ToS. Your right, yes, actually it does. Its illegal to deliberately delete evidence that could later be used in a court of law. Well, someone making an accusation on a message board is hardly evidence. The other option is that someone has committed a crime while posting on this site. Were that the case, then those who witnessed this crime could go to the polis whether or not the evidence was deleted. Witnessing a crime would constitute evidence. So, the question would have to be: if you witnessed it then why haven't you gone to the polis? if you didn't witness it then it's no more than hearsay.

MariaB -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/10/2016 2:54:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent quote: ORIGINAL: MariaB quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact The site has a responsibility. Go read ToS. Your right, yes, actually it does. Its illegal to deliberately delete evidence that could later be used in a court of law. Well, someone making an accusation on a message board is hardly evidence. Of course not but neither your or I have been privy to the sort of information that fell into the owners/administrators hands. If for example, the police were involved in a criminal investigation that led them to evidence on this site and if forensics showed admin to be hiding that evidence by trying to delete or hide certain parts of that evidence that could be seen as complissant.

NorthernGent -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/10/2016 3:02:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MariaB quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent quote: ORIGINAL: MariaB quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact The site has a responsibility. Go read ToS. Your right, yes, actually it does. Its illegal to deliberately delete evidence that could later be used in a court of law. Well, someone making an accusation on a message board is hardly evidence. Of course not but neither your or I have been privy to the sort of information that fell into the owners/administrators hands. If for example, the police were involved in a criminal investigation that led them to evidence on this site and if forensics showed admin to be hiding that evidence by trying to delete or hide certain parts of that evidence that could be seen as complissant. Well yeah, no one is disputing the possibility of one of the Mods having the evidence which would solve a crime. Anything is possible. It's possible that DeviantlyD has an obsession with my obsession with hills...ain't that right D:-) But, leaving possibilities aside however remote, all you have at the moment is accusations.

WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/10/2016 3:08:25 PM)
I'd tend to lean more toward inadmissible hearsay... Except I have had to delete enough ToS violation pics to know some people are skanky mo'fos. Just saying[;)]

MariaB -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/10/2016 3:40:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent But, leaving possibilities aside however remote, all you have at the moment is accusations. Yep and for all we know it could be a kangaroo court in Marwell Zoo or a full on investigation by the FBI.

NorthernGent -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/10/2016 3:49:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MariaB quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent But, leaving possibilities aside however remote, all you have at the moment is accusations. Yep and for all we know it could be a kangaroo court in Marwell Zoo or a full on investigation by the FBI. Well, do you not remember the Arpig episode? It was like the end of the world for some people, but for fuck's sake when was the last time four lesbians turned up living together in a house next door to you?! I wasn't here when it happened but went back and read the posts at some point and the four lesbians and other characters were quite clearly the invention of someone's over-active mind - it was as clear as day from the start. Yet, insults from characters who clearly didn't exist caused all hell to break loose. So, based upon past experience, not convinced there's much more to this than a lot of drama - more chance of it being a kangaroo court than a stakeout by the world's specialists in organised crime as far as I can tell.

Wayward5oul -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/10/2016 3:55:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent quote: ORIGINAL: MariaB quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact The site has a responsibility. Go read ToS. Your right, yes, actually it does. Its illegal to deliberately delete evidence that could later be used in a court of law. Well, someone making an accusation on a message board is hardly evidence. The other option is that someone has committed a crime while posting on this site. Were that the case, then those who witnessed this crime could go to the polis whether or not the evidence was deleted. Witnessing a crime would constitute evidence. So, the question would have to be: if you witnessed it then why haven't you gone to the polis? if you didn't witness it then it's no more than hearsay. No, in lots of courts that would simply be one person's word against another's. With no evidence to substantiate any claim, because it was illegally erased.

shiftyw -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/10/2016 3:57:27 PM)
meh- If you don't think the NSA has all this shit written down you aren't paranoid enough...

NorthernGent -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/10/2016 4:07:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent quote: ORIGINAL: MariaB quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact The site has a responsibility. Go read ToS. Your right, yes, actually it does. Its illegal to deliberately delete evidence that could later be used in a court of law. Well, someone making an accusation on a message board is hardly evidence. The other option is that someone has committed a crime while posting on this site. Were that the case, then those who witnessed this crime could go to the polis whether or not the evidence was deleted. Witnessing a crime would constitute evidence. So, the question would have to be: if you witnessed it then why haven't you gone to the polis? if you didn't witness it then it's no more than hearsay. No, in lots of courts that would simply be one person's word against another's. With no evidence to substantiate any claim, because it was illegally erased. Think we have our wires crossed. I'm talking of people actually witnessing a crime.

NorthernGent -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/10/2016 4:13:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: shiftyw meh- If you don't think the NSA has all this shit written down you aren't paranoid enough... Is that the gun people? I would be paranoid, but every time I see a documentary about them they're sat in a field somewhere, surrounded by barbed wire (which they themselves have constructed - seemingly oblivious to the fact they have erected a concentration camp for themselves, walked through the front gate and have imprisoned themselves without needing any guards to watch over them to keep them there), waiting for the government to come for them. For as long as their focus is elsewhere, I'm running Scot-free and unconcerned.

DocStrange -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/10/2016 4:24:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent Is that the gun people? I would be paranoid, but every time I see a documentary about them they're sat in a field somewhere, surrounded by barbed wire (which they themselves have constructed - seemingly oblivious to the fact they have erected a concentration camp for themselves, walked through the front gate and have imprisoned themselves without needing any guards to watch over them to keep them there), waiting for the government to come for them. For as long as their focus is elsewhere, I'm running Scot-free and unconcerned. NSA is the National Security Administration for the US Government. The have some very sophisticated spying equipment.

bounty44 -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/10/2016 4:35:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent I'm running Scot-free and unconcerned. that's an interesting phrase for an Englishman, I wonder where that comes from?

NorthernGent -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/10/2016 4:44:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent I'm running Scot-free and unconcerned. that's an interesting phrase for an Englishman, I wonder where that comes from? 'Think "scot" is an old English word for tax or something, rather than having anything to do with our friends to the North.

Dvr22999874 -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/10/2016 4:55:53 PM)
It was a kind of church tax...................The Germans still have something similar ( Kirken Steuer I believe it is called and spelled). If you say you are an atheist when you go for a job there, you don't have to pay it....................so you would be 'scot-free' in Brit terms

bounty44 -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/10/2016 5:02:00 PM)
gentlemen, those are interesting, but im sorry, im going to be contacting the anti-scots defamation league nonetheless. some caber tossers might be showing up.

Wayward5oul -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/10/2016 5:02:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent Think we have our wires crossed. I'm talking of people actually witnessing a crime. Even in that case, it is all too common these days for morons to commit crimes, and go online boasting about it or taunting someone with it. Admitting things they would never admit to the police so as not to incriminate themselves. But anything that they post online regarding a crime could be used in court, and often is. But not if its deleted.

Wayward5oul -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/10/2016 5:05:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: shiftyw meh- If you don't think the NSA has all this shit written down you aren't paranoid enough... Yeah but they would never admit to any of it unless they had something to gain by divulging it. Our common little lives and squabbles wouldn't peak their interest enough. We would never get to see it.

OsideGirl -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/10/2016 7:38:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MariaB if forensics showed admin to be hiding that evidence by trying to delete or hide certain parts of that evidence that could be seen as complissant. Which at this point is just forum heresay.

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