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RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! - 1/21/2016 7:11:24 AM   
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yeah I don't understand how two people in two different places, nowhere near each other and she can call him Master. and now because they are in two different locations I'm tending to believe she made this up.

If this was made up. I am happy nobody is gonna get killed.

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RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! - 1/21/2016 2:36:34 PM   
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Well she still has a profile. Doesn't that mean she's still alive?

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RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! - 1/21/2016 3:32:35 PM   
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yeah a BDSM death would not look good for our lifestyle. there is already a stigma to it without adding death. I still stand by even though I'm a masochist I would not be involved with anybody on any level that would kill me or permanently do me damage.

And if this isn't a fake person of some kind then this person seriously needs some kind of mental help to put herself in danger knowingly with anyone that could damage her forever or kill her.

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RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! - 1/21/2016 3:51:37 PM   
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Well Kana wouldn't agree with you LilJuly76. How dare you choose for anyone else what they need. Who died and made you their caretaker? Oh yeah. That was just your opinion wasn't it. Well damn .. Sorry my bad

On a more serious note. I've enjoyed being a sadist for many years. I'll hurt ya and enjoy doing it. But I know how to hurt you without damaging you and that's what I've always been taught in BDSM is the key. Do no damage. Do no permanent injury whether it be physical or mental. Certainly do no death. That's what I was taught when I came into all this some 40 years ago by Dominants who certainly knew more than me. What's right and what's wrong. The OP's Owner is what I consider to be a blight on the essence of BDSM and he has no place within it. That's just my opinion and I will stand by it

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RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! - 1/21/2016 4:07:55 PM   
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if this is a real girl I'm not telling her what to do. But I do feel concerned when and I have seen this happen a lot of times, primarily when a girl is relatively knew to the lifestyle, they go through subfrenzy, have all these ideas of what BDSM based on what they read online, and either get hooked up with a moron that would do her damage or use her to get what he wants, or they end up with an old school Dominant or Master and they find out maybe being a slave is not what they thought it would be. I was taught from the ground up myself. There are good parts to D/s or M/s and there are bad parts but it all centers around communication with the people that you are involved with, if you didn't have that then the relationship wouldn't last very long.

But since they are in two different places I highly doubt the stuff she says is even true, you can't physically hurt someone long distance.

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RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! - 1/21/2016 6:17:21 PM   
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yeah I don't understand how two people in two different places, nowhere near each other and she can call him Master. and now because they are in two different locations I'm tending to believe she made this up.


Or he did?

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RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! - 1/22/2016 3:24:46 AM   
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that's a good point to

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RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! - 1/22/2016 1:03:29 PM   
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Well Kana wouldn't agree with you LilJuly76. How dare you choose for anyone else what they need. Who died and made you their caretaker? Oh yeah. That was just your opinion wasn't it. Well damn .. Sorry my bad

On a more serious note. I've enjoyed being a sadist for many years. I'll hurt ya and enjoy doing it. But I know how to hurt you without damaging you and that's what I've always been taught in BDSM is the key. Do no damage. Do no permanent injury whether it be physical or mental. Certainly do no death. That's what I was taught when I came into all this some 40 years ago by Dominants who certainly knew more than me. What's right and what's wrong. The OP's Owner is what I consider to be a blight on the essence of BDSM and he has no place within it. That's just my opinion and I will stand by it


Sigh
Some people.

You can have your opinion...but it's a stupid one that impinges on the personal decision making liberties of others, which means it sucks.
Look, have you ever tried to deal with someone engaging in self destructive behavior?
Have you ever tried to get an alcoholic to stop drinking or an addict to stop using?
Some folk are going to pursue what they need to chase and that's gonna happen no matter what anyone else may think and no matter what the cost.

WTF?
It's their life. It's their choice.

What I care about is that they make an informed choice...and while I may not agree with what others kinks are...one has to admit this cat is being straight up about what he wants.

Lemme tell a story.
A decade or so ago I was playing with this chick, a woman that was a total maso. As in we couldn't play in public or with people around because they tended to freak at what they saw.
I mean some real hard core way out on the edge shit.
Power tools and claw hammers sort of stuff.

Now this lady, she had just left a relationship with a really physically abusive guy. Brutal terms, extremely harsh slavery under savage conditions, living in Vermont in winter without heat in her doghouse sort of stuff. He beat the holy fuck out of her, knocked her senseless, basically broke pretty much every rule I had ever been taught about how to be sadist and not break the toys.
I was happy to help her get out, chipped in some cash with some friends to get her home, helped her find her feet again...

...except as time went on, she kinda shrunk, pined and withered away. Missed the ex more and more, slowly lost control of her life and began to fray.
And this lady, she wasn't dumb. Was bright, vivacious, smart as a whip. Wasn't uneducated re SM. She was a nurse and knew more about the body than I did. Wasn't a rookie, in fact she headed the local BDSM group for a while. Wasn't a loner, had lots of friends in the hospital and the BDSM community, lots of support, lots of help, all willing and ready to assist, hands extended.
Except she wasn't happy without him. Felt purposeless. Couldn't keep her shit together. Was more and more unhappy and missed him more and more.
And one day she went back.
Talked to lots of people first, professional and scene, almost everyone, including, and this may astonish you, me, advised her strongly against it,but she needed to go.
I remember talking to her about it and she looked me in the eyes and said, "He may kill me, likely he will, but I belong to and with him."
And that was all she wrote.

I felt helpless, as did everyone around her, but she as going to do what she was going to do and there was nothing that was going to stop her.
Because she had to do what she needed to do for her.

I learned a valuable lesson that day.
So now I try to judge less, maybe care a little more, respect others need to follow their muse, even if I utterly disagree with their course of action.

I watch people I care about make utterly terrible decisions all the time. Careers, love, drugs, divorce, health, abusive non BDSM relationships, the list is endless.
What I don't do is try to save the world. I don't haul drunks out of alleys, I don't try to stop people from shooting dope, and I don't try to rescue cunts that make bad decisions.
Fuck, we learn through pain and love. Everything I know about relationships comes from fucking them up.
And one of those things I learned is that while my way is right for me, it sure as shit ain't right for everyone. And vice versa.

Some people don't want love. Some people don't want kindness. Some people want utter objectification and savage use and abuse.
Not sure why, but that's how they are wired.
And they don't just want it. They need it. They crave it. The hunger grows and grows until it consumes.
And they are going to find what slakes that thirst, no matter what.

Why is that so difficult to understand?

Oh yeah, wait, that's right.
You take cheap shots rather than answer questions because you have nothing but some moral halfass stance rooted in what you 'think' is right, whereas I talk about things like liberty and freedom and personal choice.

Soooooo, do tell, does your 'slave' like it when you have to do all the thinking for her because she is just a poor wittwe infewiow female that needs you to keep her safe from their harm her own head and needs may lead her too?


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RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! - 1/22/2016 9:05:29 PM   
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You keep missing my intent here Kana. I don't wish to save her. I don't care what she does. I'm against him not her. He I think is the blight, that we protect, under the guise of consent. I say we don't protect them anymore. I say he and those like him don't get safe haven in the world of BDSM. That when they're found out they get sent on their merry way

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RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! - 1/22/2016 9:09:03 PM   
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quote:

Oh yeah, wait, that's right.
You take cheap shots rather than answer questions because you have nothing but some moral halfass stance rooted in what you 'think' is right, whereas I talk about things like liberty and freedom and personal choice.


and you're a smarmy asshole huh. My stance is my own. Don't like it? No sweat off my balls. you're kinda used to being holier than thou ain't ya

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RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! - 1/23/2016 2:21:24 AM   
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Fr- Can't be a real sadist. A real sadist would take away your internet access.

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RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! - 1/23/2016 2:24:39 AM   
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that profile scares me. I wouldn't want any broken bones

It's very tough to break fake bones

" So much pain! So many broken bones! So much blood lost! I haven't slept in two months. I've only passed out from his beatings."

So the profile pic should look like a zombie in a body cast right?


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RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! - 1/23/2016 3:18:05 AM   
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Oh yeah, wait, that's right.
You take cheap shots rather than answer questions because you have nothing but some moral halfass stance rooted in what you 'think' is right, whereas I talk about things like liberty and freedom and personal choice.


and you're a smarmy asshole huh. My stance is my own. Don't like it? No sweat off my balls. you're kinda used to being holier than thou ain't ya


See, again, resorts to attacks because all you have to stand on is idiocy.

I asked a set of straight forward questions. You refuse to answer because you can't, instead you operate off of stupid childish emotional knee jerk reactions, sticking to one argument-this isn't acceptable because the almighty "I" don't like it

You read a strangers post, go look at a profile and instantly decide that these people should be in jail, that people like this give you and everyone that practices BDSM a bad name, get on your high horse and make personal attacks on anyone that disagrees with your emotive response, suggest that to disagree with your very limited perspective belongs in prison and is a murderer, and I'm the holier than thou one?

You're the one who decides and determines what is and what is right and proper and acceptable for complete strangers to do.
You're the one that reads a few lines showing, at best, a razor thin slice of the highly complicated and deep thing that a relationship is and think you can make judgments about the interaction others have.

There's words for that sort of thinking. Condescending. Presumptive. Arrogant. Jerk. These are a few that spring to mind.

Dooooood, that popping sound you'll hear one day. Yeah, that will be your head coming out of your ass. Because you don't have a fucking clue.

Let me be clear. As long as he is straight up and above board about his desires and she knows walking in the door, that decision is hers to make.
WTF is so hard for you to understand?
There are cunts that like brutal slavery. There are men (And women. I don't want to be a sexist pig like CoD...or offend LP-she lives to close for baiting that bear now. Laughs) who dish it out. Every coin has two sides and this is the flip side of the hard maso. The hard sadist.
Now if this guy was sleazy, say, oh I don't know, a rescuer who came in under the false pretenses of saving women from themselves (sound familiar?) but once that door shut turned into Hannibal Lechter, then yeah, I'm going to have some real ethical issues there.
I'm for people making decisions in their life...but those have to be informed decisions.

This cat though. Sheesh. Ain't no one getting with him without having a clear understanding about what he is, what he wants, and what he is about about. He is totally up front about his tastes and desires. He's not out there raping people. He's not haunting the scene, lurking in the fringes and hiding his true nature. Not out there rescuing those poor helpless s-types who would otherwise succumb to the dark net. Not even fucking close. Fuck, two minutes of googling shows he has similarly worded profiles all over the net. He's remarkably consistent in what he is and what he seeks.
This guy has written something for a very specific audience.
That's a profile designed for one thing-to draw in the hard masos and drive away everything else*

There's no subterfuge there. No sneaking around. A girl responds to that profile and she is 100% aware of what she is getting into way in advance.

In a twisted way, I kinda respect that.

It's the same reason my profile picture is what it is-lots of people say they are edge players, I give photographic evidence.

But I digress. Now is there a chance he is a true sociopath and serial killer?
Sure.
But there's also a chance your boss or mailman or ex is, too. Or that nice person you just met off of plenty of fish. That's modern life, bucko.

Maybe he really hurts people, but those are going to be people who want and need that and that's what he seeks, or sought.
Bitch all you want about him. No one can play tennis alone. And it takes two to be in a relationship. So as long as he is clear in advance, and oooh, how he is, she is a willing participant with as much responsibility as he.

I give you your own motivations back to you
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Doing real harm to impressionable young subs.All under the guise of consent. I say it's high time we turned them out and not give them safe haven any longer.

Fuck you. Fuck you so much.
Impressionable young sub. Impressionable my ass.
No bitch reads that profile and moves forward being 'impressionable.' If anything, those women run for the hills.
Not to mention how freaking ridiculous it is that you think s-types need rescuing from themselves.
Again, who the fuck are to judge what He does as long as it makes her happy...and while I don't believe a word of the OP, the slave sure doesn't sound the least bit unhappy. Fuck, if anything she wants to share the joy.

Sanctimonious-look it up. Try it on. Might as well, because that shoe so clearly fits.

This guy ain't taking advantage of anyone and you are a fool for thinking otherwise. A slave walks into a relationship with him, even a meet, she is walking in with eyes wide open...and most likely wet and hoping to be found acceptable.

Funny thing-The difference between adults and children is simple, immature and developing people are run by their emotions. Grown ups and adults run their emotions. You may want to try the latter someday.
Until then, keep posting. Keep shifting your arguments. Keep moving the goalposts. Keep clearly showing what a fool you are.

I ask again:

-Who died and appointed you moral authority of BDSM.
-Where do you get off laying your values and ethics on others against their will.
-Where in the world does the ego come from to make you of all morons think you are just the fucking person to go about enforcing this? Last name Hasslehoff, perhaps? Got lifeguard syndrome.
Maybe bought an old set of armor at a RenFest and now suffer from the delusion that you are really Galahad reincarnated?
-Do people have a right to make decisions that could be injurious? Do slaves? Do females?
-Where did you get the authority to perform cost benefit analysis on the decision making of others while having almost zero inputs?
-What gave you the idea any of the slaves and/or women here need rescuing?
-Ever ask slaves whether they feel like they need rescuing?


Oh, that's right. You won't answer because you can't. Instead, like the child you are, you'll resort to insult...because you don't have anything else to say.




*I'll tell you though-in my experience, while there are few few chicks, and most of those are full on nuts, that are really massively hard masos and want really brutal play, there are legions that dream and fantasize about it. As in it's kinda shocking how many there are and how savage their fantasies run. Don't know if it's the confluence of BDSM and horror, but man, there are some seriously freaking FUBAR bitches out there.
Fuck, I love it so much.

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RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! - 1/23/2016 3:34:04 AM   
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that profile scares me. I wouldn't want any broken bones

It's very tough to break fake bones

" So much pain! So many broken bones! So much blood lost! I haven't slept in two months. I've only passed out from his beatings."

So the profile pic should look like a zombie in a body cast right?


Or just another morning in the RS household :-)

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RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! - 1/23/2016 8:28:03 AM   
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There's words for that sort of thinking. Condescending. Presumptive. Arrogant. Jerk. These are a few that spring to mind.


and I'm the name caller? which you've been doing this sort of shit since the beginning

Who appointed me to have a morality about BDSM? Me and what I was taught to be right and wrong. In your world there is no wrong. In my world there is. I really don't give a fuck if you like it or not because it's not up to you to decide for me. So sit on it and spin for all I care and say hello to Bubba when it comes your time. Oh I forgot. You've already said hello to Bubba. How'd that go anyway?

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RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! - 1/23/2016 8:35:38 AM   
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This cat though. Sheesh. Ain't no one getting with him without having a clear understanding about what he is, what he wants, and what he is about about. He is totally up front about his tastes and desires. He's not out there raping people. He's not haunting the scene, lurking in the fringes and hiding his true nature. Not out there rescuing those poor helpless s-types who would otherwise succumb to the dark net. Not even fucking close. Fuck, two minutes of googling shows he has similarly worded profiles all over the net. He's remarkably consistent in what he is and what he seeks.
This guy has written something for a very specific audience.
That's a profile designed for one thing-to draw in the hard masos and drive away everything else*


And that makes it all ok because he's up front and open about it? You are insane aren't you. C'mon you can admit it? No one will commit you, I promise

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RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! - 1/23/2016 11:24:15 AM   
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Of course there's right and wrong. Where the funk did I say otherwise. But you have no clue re shit.
Until someone has actually like, you know, committed a crime, they are entitled to the benefit of the doubt.
This little pesky thing called Presumed Innocent.

The only data point you have is a slave who is very happy (and likely very fake).
I further note that despite dolcett fantasies on the profile, the chick was alive and capable of posting.

As for name calling, hmmm, I made a broad general post stating essentially My Kink is not your kink. You responded by suggesting I should be locked up and started attacking...to the point where I clearly stated that you brought this on yourself and proceeded to expose the ridiculousness you posted for the morally bankrupt, sexist, misogynistic, pathetically judgmental crap it is.

As for bubba, fuck, I did fine. My cellie ran the joint and we got along like peas in a pod. Used to stay up at night and argue politics and racial issues
Never got into a fight. Never even had anyone step to me.
Seeing how I spent half my time doing pro bono legal work for other inmates, there were more than a few hard cases that had a vested interest in keeping me safe and intact so I was covered six ways to Sunday.

Meanwhile I note that you have now stooped to being a proponent of prison rape to those who oppose your shallow POV, which pretty much makes you at least as bad as the person you are criticizing in this. In fact, it makes you much worse ethically. At least he deals with consent. You on the other hand espouse homosexual forced rape...which if you knew a Goddamn thing about, would know isn't even kinda sorta funny at all.

So hey, my original comment about pot:kettle holds 100% true and you've just convicted yourself with your own words.

How does that crow taste, spanky?

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RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! - 1/23/2016 12:03:52 PM   
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How does that crow taste, spanky?


You read so much into what I type Most of it is so untrue it's stupid. Your assumptions are odd at best. My only data point is his profile and sorry, I don't presume him innocent of anything. He's a low life piece of shit in my book. Live with it

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RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! - 1/23/2016 12:34:33 PM   
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But meanwhile you publicly espouse that others should be imprisoned and raped for disagreeing with your POV and that makes you better than "a low life piece of shit" how????

Keep digging, sonny.
You might reach China one day. That is, if your ethical contradictions don't strangle you first

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RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! - 1/23/2016 12:45:52 PM   
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Lol. Actually I only suggested you join him in prison if you condone his activities. Which it seems you're fighting awfully hard to do. But ya know. I could be wrong

In a different thread you speak of learning what's safe and what's not for a newbie. Yet in this thread you condone his murderous intentions. Gee, speak out of both sides of your mouth much?

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