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What is it like dealing with a kinky Asperger's partner? - 1/19/2016 10:52:29 AM   
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What is it like dealing with a kinky Asperger's partner?

The topic comes up rather frequently when I'm on the message boards (I can't imagine why) about how it's a bit different sometimes dealing with an Aspie, whether or not they're also a fetishist.

For my sake, and for the sake of others, do you interact with Aspie people on a kink level?
How is it the same or different than anyone else?

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I had just typed this up in my email in response to someone whose child is an Aspie, which I will paste here, after anonymizing the information - so that those unfamiliar with Aspergers Syndrome, can get an idea of the type of person we're talking about.

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Aspergers is a weird thing because when you don't get signals, they don't exist. Of course, the social cues are all there, but, they often don't make it inside the Asperger brain, so the Aspie is often oblivious to what is patently obvious to others. Almost always, Aspie's have a hard time putting themselves into the shoes of other people, and when they do, they're often confused, because they would handle the same situation differently than normal people do.

Because myriad subtle contrary cues are often missed, the Aspie (initially) takes almost everything literally at face value (a supremely trusting innocence doomed to be inevitably destroyed by adulthood experiences with non-Aspergers people).

Of course, that helps in other ways (they can get deeply into myriad non-emotional matter-of-fact cause-and-effect technical stuff, for example, because of the lack of distracting subtle signals getting in the way), but, in a discussion forum, or as a fetish counselor, being an Aspie probably spells disaster in capital letters.

Aspies often don't get subtle jokes because their nature is to always take things literally (until they learn otherwise).

They also sometimes hurt people's feelings without meaning to because they speak literally and from their standpoint only. (Sometimes that's useful, because nobody can throw shit back at someone like an Aspie can, simply because the Aspie doesn't usually know how to mince words - but - usually it's helpful to be able to see things from the side of the other person also.)

the thing is, Aspies also almost always strive to tell the truth (as they see it) to a fault!
(That's why few politicians or sales people can get away with being an Aspie.)

This nearly universal trait that Aspies live the truth serum day in and day out, is a wonderful trait - but - it certainly can and will get them into trouble in a relationship or on the forums
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As you know, they got rid of the Asperger's classification, but that doesn't change the spectrum.

The range for social effects is huge, but, most of the kids are super sweet, innocent to a fault, and just good kids. They may look open eyed, staring off to the side as you talk to them, and obsess about this or that, but they're generally not cruel or devious kids, and the innocence, which I have myself, is what I think is their best attribute.

Of course, if we don't get social cues in person, Lord help us in online contentious discussions, but that's where confidence has to reign supreme.

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The whole Aspie thing takes on different dimensions for different kids. Some can't take affection (they don't know what to do with it); others can't take being yelled at (they're far too sensitive). Some are screeched out by having their hair cut just as many of us are when chalk is scraped across a blackboard.

Most Aspergers' kids miss out on social cues, and therefore that makes them awkward and prone to be loners. Most don't have very good fine motor skills, which makes for lousy athletes. Many can't empathize, but many can, so all these traits are the luck of the draw.

One thing that almost every Aspie has is an insane attention to detail in things that THEY are interested in (there may be no desire for detail in topics they're not drawn to). Hence this incredible attention paid to detail makes Aspies great geeks, of sorts. Probably most scientists and the best of the best (e.g., cooks, pilots, statisticians, researchers, collectors, etc.) are Aspergers.

While everyone is different, even if you can't pin your fingers on an Aspie, there will always be SOMETHING different about them, and, well, that's their charm as well as their challenge. Of course, it's HARD for Aspies to make and keep relationships, simply because of the constant give-and-take and compromise and change and doing things different and change and adapting to someone else's way of doing things and change and ... oh ... did I mention change?

Aspies, in general, don't like change. I'm different, in that respect, but most are set in their ways. They like being told hours ahead of time that they need to go to an appointment. They hate, usually, being surprised. Everything for most Aspie's needs to be routine or as routine as you can make it.

As a result, almost all Aspie's are loners in some way, shape or form. They form very few friends, and, their friends tend to be just like they are (did I mention they don't generally like change?). But they tend to hold onto their few good friends forever!


DISCLAIMER: All people are different, just as all Aspie's are different. I am not a doctor and I don't even play as a gynecologist in the bedroom; but this was my assessment of what an Aspie can be like for a mother who wrote to me today about the topic.
The goal of this thread is to have OTHERs flesh out what THEIR experiences and recommendations are with Aspie's as fetish partners.


For reference, here are some relationship-related articles:
  • Five Good Reasons to Love an Aspie
  • 5 Tips for Loving Someone with Asperger’s Syndrome
  • Commitment Phobia in Adults on the Autism Spectrum

    In your experience, what is it like dealing with a kinky Asperger's partner?

    < Message edited by crumpets -- 1/19/2016 11:47:15 AM >
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    RE: What is it like dealing with a kinky Asperger's par... - 1/26/2016 5:24:08 PM   
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    Asperger's... congenitally pragmatic. <grin>

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    RE: What is it like dealing with a kinky Asperger's par... - 1/26/2016 5:34:23 PM   
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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: MercTech
    Asperger's... congenitally pragmatic. <grin>


    Nice summary.
    I have seen the similar summary that says a cat is an Asperger's dog.

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    RE: What is it like dealing with a kinky Asperger's par... - 1/29/2016 2:11:32 AM   
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    That summary, was, by the way, in this excellent book on the topic:


    Aspergers people tend to get deeply (very deeply) into a variety of subjects, as this shot of my microbiology books tries to show:


    Where I studied completely different things after that phase of my life.

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    RE: What is it like dealing with a kinky Asperger's par... - 2/8/2016 4:12:34 AM   
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    Someone recently wrote to me and kindly likened the actions of some Aspies as similar to how the fictional Sheldon Cooper character is portrayed on sitcom The Big Bang Theory.

    However, the producers say he's intended to be a mix:
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    Despite speculation that Sheldon's personality traits may be consistent with Asperger syndrome, obsessive–compulsive personality disorder and asexuality,[4][6] co-creator Bill Prady has repeatedly stated that Sheldon's character was neither conceived nor developed with regard to any of these traits.The character of Sheldon Cooper was inspired by a computer programmer personally known to series co-creator Bill Prady.[7] He is named in honor of actor/producer Sheldon Leonard[8] and Nobel Prize Laureate Leon Cooper.[9] [6]


    For those interested, following are related references:
  • “Big Bang Theory” — Aspergers and Emotional/Social Intelligence
  • The Big Aspie Theory: Top 5 Reasons Sheldon Cooper Likely has Asperger’s
  • Sheldony or Aspergery?: The Big Bang Theory
  • An Emmy for the first sitcom character with Asperger's
  • Why Our Autism Community Loves Sheldon Cooper
  • Big Bang Theory’s Sheldon Cooper: Asperger’s Syndrome’s Poster boy?
  • Is the world ready for an Asperger's sitcom?
  • Does Sheldon have Aspergers?
  • The Big Bang Controversy: Is Sheldon Autistic?
  • Sheldon Cooper Has Asperger's Syndrome

    Video:
  • Sheldon has Aspgers
  • Aspergers and the Big Bang Theory show!


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    RE: What is it like dealing with a kinky Asperger's par... - 2/9/2016 9:24:03 AM   
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    Someone kindly mailed me this classic Aspergers joke today...

    I think they were hinting at something ... but I'm not sure what...

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    RE: What is it like dealing with a kinky Asperger's par... - 2/10/2016 7:12:45 AM   
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    http://www.baconwrappedmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/sheldon-cooper-funny.jpg

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    RE: What is it like dealing with a kinky Asperger's par... - 2/10/2016 5:22:02 PM   
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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Cinnamongirl67

    http://www.baconwrappedmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/sheldon-cooper-funny.jpg


    That's a classic for the Aspergers afflicted ...

    I'll put image tags around that URL for you, like this [image]...[/image]

    You don't know how many times I've thought something very similar ...


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