bounty44 -> RE: Freedom From Atheism! (2/6/2016 2:24:31 PM)
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i suppose it was too much to expect you would have dealt honestly with the content of what I posted. i wont make that mistake again. if you go back and read carefully, you'll see there is not one thing that you posted that contradicts anything i have said, or negatively critiques or disproves the information in the studies i shared. claiming and showing that Christian kids are better students is not disproven by showing that atheists are generally smarter as measured by IQ tests. however that said i'll at least address a couple of your links. half your wiki page section are criticisms of the methodology of the study you seem to want to hang your hat on. here's an example: quote:
The Lynn et al. study has been criticized by Artificial Intelligence researcher Randy Olson who has noted that the correlation between national religiosity and intelligence is weak. The correlation between wealth and intelligence is stronger and more suited. He notes that many of the countries with lower intelligence scores are less developed and that countries with 20% atheists or more flat line rather than increase in intelligence.[5] When looking at Kanazawa's paper on individual religiosity, or atheism, and intelligence, Olson noted that both the most religious and atheists were all within the bounds of "average intelligence" (90-109) and from a practical point, none are distinguishable from the other.[5] The Lynn et al. paper has also been criticized by Professor Gordon Lynch, director of the Centre for Religion and Contemporary Society from London's Birkbeck College, who expressed concern that the study failed to take into account a complex range of social, economic and historical factors, each of which has been shown to interact with religion and IQ in different ways.[4] Gallup surveys, for example, have found that the world's poorest countries are consistently the most religious, perhaps because religion plays a more functional role (helping people cope) in poorer nations.[6] as to your "moral" study: (i didn't make a claim about morality either) quote:
"Researchers asked 1,252 adults of different religious and political backgrounds in the United States and Canada to record the good and bad deeds they committed, witnessed, learned about or were the target of throughout the day." Wisneski and his fellow researchers found that religious and nonreligious people commit similar numbers of moral acts. there is no definition of what a moral act is such that the reader can accept or reject the author's use of it as a valid indicator of morality. you apparently want to take the author's word for it. nor does your link provide raw data so the reader can compare those "similar numbers." a search for "morality study" on the site gives no hits and a search for the author's name doesn't get you to the study either. now, if you want to deal with the Christian kids being better students, doing less drugs and alcohol, Christians being happier, having better marriages, being more involved with their kids, having better physical and psychological health, less suicide, less crime, and better neighbors and citizens---have at it, maybe someone else will enjoy reading it.
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