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RE: Brussels Belgian - 3/22/2016 10:16:13 PM   
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Yes the message is...ha ha ha...throw your vote away dumb ass...see if we care. Now that is not what I say but it would be what the party leaders would say.

Butch


Wasting your vote is voting for someone you don't believe in. I don't want to see Trump nor Clinton in any position of power. Eventually enough people will think the same way.

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RE: Brussels Belgian - 3/22/2016 10:24:09 PM   
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I don't either but Clinton is still far better than Trump and I may as well pick the better of two evils rather than waste my good time throwing my vote away.

But I do understand your frustration.

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RE: Brussels Belgian - 3/22/2016 10:26:20 PM   
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I don't either but Clinton is still far better than Trump and I may as well pick the better of two evils rather than waste my good time throwing my vote away.

Butch


Again, wasting your vote is voting for someone you don't believe in. You've just said you intend to waste your vote.

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RE: Brussels Belgian - 3/22/2016 10:30:02 PM   
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Lol.. No I said in so many words, one of those two will be our next President...and I would rather it be a little devil than a big one.

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RE: Brussels Belgian - 3/22/2016 10:31:35 PM   
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Lol.. No I said in so many words, one of those two will be our next President...and I would rather it be a little devil than a big one.

Butch


Only if everyone continues to waste their votes as you intend to.

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RE: Brussels Belgian - 3/22/2016 10:49:36 PM   
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Yes the message is...ha ha ha...throw your vote away dumb ass...see if we care. Now that is not what I say but it would be what the party leaders would say.

Butch


Wasting your vote is voting for someone you don't believe in. I don't want to see Trump nor Clinton in any position of power. Eventually enough people will think the same way.


Too often refusing to vote for the lesser evil get you the greater one, and we seem to be running headlong into that choice.

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RE: Brussels Belgian - 3/22/2016 10:53:58 PM   
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Belgium (and France and Turkey and Germany and ...) is a prime example of how well the Kumbai Yah European Socialism works in the real world.

Unfortunately, I don't hold any world leader too much to blame other than their inability at precognition. This is something that has been building since 1948. The signs were there and, by-and-large, they were ignored in favor of political correctness.

Even over the last 20 years or so, I don't hold leaders all that responsible (possibly even less so than earlier) because the answer is not one that people want to even think about.

Even if you believe the numbers that get bandied about (I don't), 1.5 Billion Muslims in the world with 85% being decent, peace-lovin' Muslims, that still leaves 225,000,000 (15%) of the extremist type. 225 Million enemies out there (in here ... among us)! To embark on a campaign to wipe them all out would be devastating to our people, our culture, our finances ... The list goes on.

It would mean that if we are successful it would be the largest scale "genocide" this world has ever seen.

Unfortunately, we've reached a tipping point, I think and the enemy is bent on just that kind of devastation and eradication of us. We need to show the scumbag-type Muslims what happens when you poke the bear too much. We have yet to even give them a bloody nose. We need to show the enemy combatants (and those that sit on the sidelines, passively endorsing them) what it used to be like when one decided to mess with Western Culture.

Or ... ya know ... we can keep cowering in the corner and think back, fondly to "the good ol' days" when a trip to the soccer match didn't include thoughts of bullet-proof vests and memorizing escape plans.



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RE: Brussels Belgian - 3/23/2016 3:23:04 AM   
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An interesting watch.

The Truth About the Brussels Attack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFyhY8WVCm0

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RE: Brussels Belgian - 3/23/2016 3:32:48 AM   
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wow he really is an ignorant twit, typical tory blowhard.


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RE: Brussels Belgian - 3/23/2016 5:59:31 AM   
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Unfortunately, we've reached a tipping point, I think and the enemy is bent on just that kind of devastation and eradication of us. We need to show the scumbag-type Muslims what happens when you poke the bear too much. We have yet to even give them a bloody nose. We need to show the enemy combatants (and those that sit on the sidelines, passively endorsing them) what it used to be like when one decided to mess with Western Culture.


When you state "eradication of us", who are you referring to?
While terrorist attacks by Muslim extremists have gone up, they're still considered rare and the deaths caused by them only account for a small fraction of deaths.
While I'm sure they'd love nothing more than all non (real-in-their-eyes) Muslims to leave this planet, they're nowhere near making a dent. I'd hardly consider their attacks as mass eradication.

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Or ... ya know ... we can keep cowering in the corner and think back, fondly to "the good ol' days" when a trip to the soccer match didn't include thoughts of bullet-proof vests and memorizing escape plans.


Because we (the U.S.) are doing a fine job on our own.

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RE: Brussels Belgian - 3/23/2016 6:22:22 AM   
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Unfortunately, we've reached a tipping point, I think and the enemy is bent on just that kind of devastation and eradication of us.

Could you explain what it is you are thinking with?

We need to show the scumbag-type Muslims what happens when you poke the bear too much.

It would appear that you feel you are the bear. Just when has the bear ever been successful at kicking anyone's ass except women and children?


We have yet to even give them a bloody nose.

Your possee has never given anyone a bloody nose except in a fixed fight.




We need to show the enemy combatants (and those that sit on the sidelines, passively endorsing them) what it used to be like when one decided to mess with Western Culture.


The facts show that it is western culture that is in their back yard spreading death and destruction and not vice- versa.





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RE: Brussels Belgian - 3/23/2016 6:32:09 AM   
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Belgium (and France and Turkey and Germany and ...) is a prime example of how well the Kumbai Yah European Socialism works in the real world.


I have a feeling you're not making reference to their VASTLY superior health systems when you make this comment.



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Unfortunately, I don't hold any world leader too much to blame other than their inability at precognition. This is something that has been building since 1948. The signs were there and, by-and-large, they were ignored in favor of political correctness.

Even over the last 20 years or so, I don't hold leaders all that responsible (possibly even less so than earlier) because the answer is not one that people want to even think about.

Even if you believe the numbers that get bandied about (I don't), 1.5 Billion Muslims in the world with 85% being decent, peace-lovin' Muslims, that still leaves 225,000,000 (15%) of the extremist type. 225 Million enemies out there (in here ... among us)! To embark on a campaign to wipe them all out would be devastating to our people, our culture, our finances ... The list goes on.

It would mean that if we are successful it would be the largest scale "genocide" this world has ever seen.


Boggles... first, where the fuck did you get the percentage from? And how do you propose to differentiate?

And... wait.... are you seriously proposing a genocide?

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Unfortunately, we've reached a tipping point, I think and the enemy is bent on just that kind of devastation and eradication of us. We need to show the scumbag-type Muslims what happens when you poke the bear too much. We have yet to even give them a bloody nose. We need to show the enemy combatants (and those that sit on the sidelines, passively endorsing them) what it used to be like when one decided to mess with Western Culture.

Or ... ya know ... we can keep cowering in the corner and think back, fondly to "the good ol' days" when a trip to the soccer match didn't include thoughts of bullet-proof vests and memorizing escape plans.



Michael



And what a wonderful advert for western "culture" you'd be making.

This has to be right up there at the top of the list of the most fuck-witted pieces of commentary I have ever read - including on these boards.



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RE: Brussels Belgian - 3/23/2016 6:48:06 AM   
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FR I agree with Thompson and CML :) Im behaving:)

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RE: Brussels Belgian - 3/23/2016 7:08:49 AM   
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Do you realise the vast majority of those "evil" refugees are trying to get away from those murdering cunts we call terrorists???

He does not object to allowing the white christian ones in it is dark skinned non christian that he objects to.


Go fuck yourself thompson. I've already posted I'm perfectly fine with denying entry to anyone from the middleast. Race, creed, color, sex. I really don't give a fuck.

Most are illiterate. They don't have the surivival skills - literacy, english, computer skills. They didn't choose to come here they are seeking to escape a war.
So while I completely support setting up refugee camps in turkey, jordan syria, there is no suggestion that its a good policy to bring them here.

Humanitarian aid does not HAVE to mean stupidity.

As neither of us really give a shit about your feelings, i will point out that we were disussin butches post, not you or your post, take your indignant ass off.
Stop being a bloody drama queen.



I have a far greater chance of turning indignant off than you have of stopping being a cunt. Willing to give it a try?

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RE: Brussels Belgian - 3/23/2016 7:09:03 AM   
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And... wait.... are you seriously proposing a genocide?



'Let's show them who the real terrorists are!'

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RE: Brussels Belgian - 3/23/2016 7:13:39 AM   
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Belgium (and France and Turkey and Germany and ...) is a prime example of how well the Kumbai Yah European Socialism works in the real world.


I have a feeling you're not making reference to their VASTLY superior health systems when you make this comment.


Which exists only in liberals minds.


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RE: Brussels Belgian - 3/23/2016 7:27:19 AM   
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Since nothing exists in nutsucker minds, I would say in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

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RE: Brussels Belgian - 3/23/2016 7:36:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Do you realise the vast majority of those "evil" refugees are trying to get away from those murdering cunts we call terrorists???

He does not object to allowing the white christian ones in it is dark skinned non christian that he objects to.


Go fuck yourself thompson. I've already posted I'm perfectly fine with denying entry to anyone from the middleast. Race, creed, color, sex. I really don't give a fuck.

Most are illiterate. They don't have the surivival skills - literacy, english, computer skills. They didn't choose to come here they are seeking to escape a war.
So while I completely support setting up refugee camps in turkey, jordan syria, there is no suggestion that its a good policy to bring them here.

Humanitarian aid does not HAVE to mean stupidity.

As neither of us really give a shit about your feelings, i will point out that we were disussin butches post, not you or your post, take your indignant ass off.
Stop being a bloody drama queen.



I have a far greater chance of turning indignant off than you have of stopping being a cunt. Willing to give it a try?


you can only respond with "cunt" because you were attempting to post bullshit, no one said TO you(AGAIN)
How about you try first.

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RE: Brussels Belgian - 3/23/2016 8:06:33 AM   
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"Made in the USA."



Incisive article originally published by GR in September 2014

Much like Al Qaeda, the Islamic State (ISIS) is made-in-the-USA, an instrument of terror designed to divide and conquer the oil-rich Middle East and to counter Iran’s growing influence in the region.

The fact that the United States has a long and torrid history of backing terrorist groups will surprise only those who watch the news and ignore history.

The CIA first aligned itself with extremist Islam during the Cold War era. Back then, America saw the world in rather simple terms: on one side, the Soviet Union and Third World nationalism, which America regarded as a Soviet tool; on the other side, Western nations and militant political Islam, which America considered an ally in the struggle against the Soviet Union.

The director of the National Security Agency under Ronald Reagan, General William Odom recently remarked, “by any measure the U.S. has long used terrorism. In 1978-79 the Senate was trying to pass a law against international terrorism – in every version they produced, the lawyers said the U.S. would be in violation.”

During the 1970′s the CIA used the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt as a barrier, both to thwart Soviet expansion and prevent the spread of Marxist ideology among the Arab masses. The United States also openly supported Sarekat Islam against Sukarno in Indonesia, and supported the Jamaat-e-Islami terror group against Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto in Pakistan. Last but certainly not least, there is Al Qaeda.

Lest we forget, the CIA gave birth to Osama Bin Laden and breastfed his organization during the 1980′s. Former British Foreign Secretary, Robin Cook, told the House of Commons that Al Qaeda was unquestionably a product of Western intelligence agencies. Mr. Cook explained that Al Qaeda, which literally means an abbreviation of “the database” in Arabic, was originally the computer database of the thousands of Islamist extremists, who were trained by the CIA and funded by the Saudis, in order to defeat the Russians in Afghanistan.

America’s relationship with Al Qaeda has always been a love-hate affair. Depending on whether a particular Al Qaeda terrorist group in a given region furthers American interests or not, the U.S. State Department either funds or aggressively targets that terrorist group. Even as American foreign policy makers claim to oppose Muslim extremism, they knowingly foment it as a weapon of foreign policy.

The Islamic State is its latest weapon that, much like Al Qaeda, is certainly backfiring. ISIS recently rose to international prominence after its thugs began beheading American journalists. Now the terrorist group controls an area the size of the United Kingdom.

In order to understand why the Islamic State has grown and flourished so quickly, one has to take a look at the organization’s American-backed roots. The 2003 American invasion and occupation of Iraq created the pre-conditions for radical Sunni groups, like ISIS, to take root. America, rather unwisely, destroyed Saddam Hussein’s secular state machinery and replaced it with a predominantly Shiite administration. The U.S. occupation caused vast unemployment in Sunni areas, by rejecting socialism and closing down factories in the naive hope that the magical hand of the free market would create jobs. Under the new U.S.-backed Shiite regime, working class Sunni’s lost hundreds of thousands of jobs. Unlike the white Afrikaners in South Africa, who were allowed to keep their wealth after regime change, upper class Sunni’s were systematically dispossessed of their assets and lost their political influence. Rather than promoting religious integration and unity, American policy in Iraq exacerbated sectarian divisions and created a fertile breading ground for Sunni discontent, from which Al Qaeda in Iraq took root.

The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) used to have a different name: Al Qaeda in Iraq. After 2010 the group rebranded and refocused its efforts on Syria.

There are essentially three wars being waged in Syria: one between the government and the rebels, another between Iran and Saudi Arabia, and yet another between America and Russia. It is this third, neo-Cold War battle that made U.S. foreign policy makers decide to take the risk of arming Islamist rebels in Syria, because Syrian President, Bashar al-Assad, is a key Russian ally. Rather embarrassingly, many of these Syrian rebels have now turned out to be ISIS thugs, who are openly brandishing American-made M16 Assault rifles.

America’s Middle East policy revolves around oil and Israel. The invasion of Iraq has partially satisfied Washington’s thirst for oil, but ongoing air strikes in Syria and economic sanctions on Iran have everything to do with Israel. The goal is to deprive Israel’s neighboring enemies, Lebanon’s Hezbollah and Palestine’s Hamas, of crucial Syrian and Iranian support.

ISIS is not merely an instrument of terror used by America to topple the Syrian government; it is also used to put pressure on Iran.

The last time Iran invaded another nation was in 1738. Since independence in 1776, the U.S. has been engaged in over 53 military invasions and expeditions. Despite what the Western media’s war cries would have you believe, Iran is clearly not the threat to regional security, Washington is. An Intelligence Report published in 2012, endorsed by all sixteen U.S. intelligence agencies, confirms that Iran ended its nuclear weapons program in 2003. Truth is, any Iranian nuclear ambition, real or imagined, is as a result of American hostility towards Iran, and not the other way around.

America is using ISIS in three ways: to attack its enemies in the Middle East, to serve as a pretext for U.S. military intervention abroad, and at home to foment a manufactured domestic threat, used to justify the unprecedented expansion of invasive domestic surveillance.

By rapidly increasing both government secrecy and surveillance, Mr. Obama’s government is increasing its power to watch its citizens, while diminishing its citizens’ power to watch their government. Terrorism is an excuse to justify mass surveillance, in preparation for mass revolt.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/america-created-al-qaeda-and-the-isis-terror-group/5402881





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RE: Brussels Belgian - 3/23/2016 8:25:07 AM   
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I don't think i would go quite so far as the speaker in your link... but...How can any thinking human honestly say Islam does NOT have a problem with violence and terrorism?

I also do not blame the leaders of the free world for not coming out and confronting a significant part of Islam for what it is. What would be their options if they did? If they called the kettle black then they would have to do something about it and no one wants another world war... So they just hide behind false rhetoric proclaiming there is just a small part of Islam that is radicalized.... and hope it all blows over... will it will not.

Butch

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