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Lucylastic -> Canadian BDSM B&B Could be shut down (4/6/2016 12:02:42 PM)

BDSM controversy could shut down Stellarton bed and breakfast
Neighbours of Euphoria B&B concerned about business on their quiet street

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/stellarton-b-b-kinky-bdsm-nova-scotia-euphoria-1.3520702

Residents of a town in Nova Scotia's Pictou County are grappling with whether they should force a local bed and breakfast out of business because it caters to those interested in erotic practices known as BDSM.

Euphoria B&B, a home business in Stellarton opened by owners Kelly McAlear and Leslie Ogle in September 2015, is for adults who want to experience role-playing, bondage, dominance, submission and sadomasochism.

Last month, McAlear and Ogle had a conversation with police, who questioned whether they had the right permit to operate a business out of their home according to the town bylaws.

Since they didn't have the proper documentation, the couple agreed to take down a website advertising their business.

In the weeks since, word of the Euphoria B&B has spread and spawned "meetings with various families and town officials."

"We're a little shocked," said Kim Murray, a neighbour who found out about the bed and breakfast two weeks ago.

"I think the people with small children seem to be more concerned. Again, they don't know who's going to be in their neighbourhood and who will be coming."

Bylaw vs covenant

The owners of Euphoria B&B, who declined an interview, told CBC that they have applied for the correct permit since their conversation with police.

A town planner in Stellarton says if the couple obtain a permit and the location passes a fire inspection, the town cannot force the business to stay closed.

However, there is a neighbourhood covenant for Poplar Street in Stellarton — where the bed and breakfast is located — which indicates there must be no business or professional activity on the road.

"If somebody felt that a property owner was in contravention of one of the covenants, they could seek legal advice and perhaps take some kind of civil action," said Roland Burek, a town planner.

Nova Scotia's kink scene

According to a member of Halifax's Society of Bastet — where people can carry out sexual fetishes and practise an alternative lifestyle — the so-called kink scene is more common than many realize.

A man, who CBC has agreed not to identify, says between 30 and 100 people participate in kink parties in the Halifax area on a regular basis. According to FetLife, which promotes itself as the largest and most popular free social network for the kinky community, there are 17,000 members in Nova Scotia.

"Some of those are probably fake accounts but when you compare that to the New York numbers, compared to our population, it's pretty huge," he said.

There are currently about 111,000 FetLife members from New York.

The Society of Bastet member says one of the misconceptions about BDSM is that it's rough sex. He points out that is not always the case.

"BDSM does not have to include sex. If two people are consenting, they can have sex with their BDSM — that is fine — but they don't have to," he said.

"At Bastet, and at the bars and the parties too, sex is off the table. So that way you can just focus on the S&M and not have to worry about having that sexual pressure there."




FelineRanger -> RE: Canadian BDSM B&B Could be shut down (4/6/2016 4:56:04 PM)

So how long before they discover that the genesis of this legal action is either a religious wacko who thinks that having fun is offends the absentee landlord deity or somebody really pissed that they didn't get in free to one of Euphoria's parties?




Greta75 -> RE: Canadian BDSM B&B Could be shut down (4/7/2016 3:53:04 AM)

Why the hell do you need a permit for bdsm? Crazy!




Lucylastic -> RE: Canadian BDSM B&B Could be shut down (4/7/2016 4:13:33 AM)

oh good gawd, its not a permit for BDSM
can you not read and inwardly digest?




LilJuly76 -> RE: Canadian BDSM B&B Could be shut down (4/7/2016 4:35:45 AM)

I always wanted to go to a BDSM B & B but never got the chance, hope they won't have to close because of some people that have no clue what BDSM is.




SimranTemptress -> RE: Canadian BDSM B&B Could be shut down (4/10/2016 3:14:52 PM)

Just remember that people in the BDSM scene are people, that's it. Some you will like, some not.




littleclip -> RE: Canadian BDSM B&B Could be shut down (4/15/2016 6:34:12 AM)

i can understand the citys side of it in a residential location to run a business you need a permit or exception to the zoning of residential. the bdsm is not the thing needing a permit educating the neighbors of the lifestyle would help allay fears that the bdsm things would not be seen by the neighbors or kids on the street




PonyGroom -> RE: Canadian BDSM B&B Could be shut down (5/8/2016 6:19:43 PM)

Any time you open a business in a residential area, you risk being shut down, or not being able to open at all, because of zoning and permitting restrictions.

It has been my observation over the last 20 years that almost all issues with operating a "BDSM" business have been about the business, not the BDSM. Parking, noise, traffic, and proximity to curious children are the top concerns. Yes, there are nefarious agendas. It's wrong to assume that's the only reason a BDSM Bed and Breakfast would face opposition.

They should have gone through the permit process as a B&B before advertising.

How is it anyone's business what goes in in those bedrooms?




littleclip -> RE: Canadian BDSM B&B Could be shut down (5/15/2016 9:35:46 PM)

i hope the get the permit to operate there it would be a good business if they can get it past the committees




shadowax -> RE: Canadian BDSM B&B Could be shut down (2/14/2017 6:57:05 PM)

"there is a neighbourhood covenant for Poplar Street in Stellarton — where the bed and breakfast is located — which indicates there must be no business or professional activity on the road".
This won't be decided about the type of business, or the proximity to children or even the taboo things that "must" go on in there . .
Their intended use of their property as a B&B business in forbidden by the covenant that forbids business use in that neighboourhood.
Their failure to obtain proper permits and fire inspection most likely precipitated the attention that they tried to avoid.




DocStrange -> RE: Canadian BDSM B&B Could be shut down (3/3/2017 3:05:41 PM)

Sad, but they owners of the B&B failed to do their research before starting the business.




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