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seekingOwnertoo -> Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (5/30/2016 1:21:15 PM)

Yesterday, Sunday before Memorial Day), late morning. I went to a local bar/restaurant. The bartender knew my name (i still don't know hers.) I was the only one there. So we talked, a lot.

She is from Alaska and Montana; got married to her boyfriend of 4 years who joined the service. They moved to South Carolina and within a year, found out marriage would never work.

This was all before she reached 21!

So now she is tending bar and trying to save for school. She is also studying to become a Manager at the Bar/Restaurant I stopped at. As additional information, she lives alone in an apartment less than a quarter mile from me. Plus, she is struggling to get the money together to buy a laptop for school.

Then I got home and saw in the Detroit Free Press, an article that mentions: arrangements are becoming very popular for young women.

And we all know what an arrangement entails; no? [;)]

This morning, I was doing some housework, and the thought occurred to me.

She has no friends or family locally. So why not talk more with her about an arrangement?

My thoughts of course are: she could live with me for free and save the money she earns; we both would share some companionship and comfort; and i could get sex regularly.

Of course when she had every thing worked out in her life; she would be free to go.

Ya know, I kind of liked the idea ... so

Please do share your thoughts; about a 21 year old girl becoming the kept submissive of a 59 year old man. :-) Myself, just love that age range. LOL







ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (5/30/2016 1:33:34 PM)

Meh, Doesn't matter to me, but the whole arrangement thing is kinda creepy to me. Do you really have to bribe her into a relationship?




seekingOwnertoo -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (5/30/2016 1:39:38 PM)

Not likely, she is hugely mature for her age and very ambitious in business as well as her life.

Think she would love to spend a couple years with a caring and loving, older and mentoring man. A relationship that would be a stepping stone for her life,

Sorry this makes you feel creepy ...

I think it sounds VERY ATTRACTIVE! [;)]







OsideGirl -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (5/30/2016 1:44:14 PM)

I think you've gone from meeting a young woman to assuming that 1) she's submissive and 2) that she'd be open to having an arrangement.

If it works it works.

But, the reality is that most women will be offended at the offer of "sex for trade" never mind the kinky sex part.

So, be prepared to be persona non grata at that bar.




seekingOwnertoo -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (5/30/2016 1:56:44 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

I think you've gone from meeting a young woman to assuming that 1) she's submissive and 2) that she'd be open to having an arrangement.




Indeed, You are 100% correct.

I made a lot of assumptions, and am thinking next time I see her, simply asking about her college fund and then her PC.

Of course she will say she doesn't have the money right now.

Then I will say, saw in the paper a lot of girls like you are getting into arrangements; have you ever thought about doing that? [:)]





ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (5/30/2016 1:57:45 PM)

quote:

I think it sounds VERY ATTRACTIVE!

Of course you do, you'd be the one fucking a girl young enough to be your granddaughter.
Her on the other hand, well she's have to be fucking a guy old enough to be her grandfather, and thus may see things a little differently.
Also, free room and board is generally not enough of a bribe for creepy intergenerational sex.




seekingOwnertoo -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (5/30/2016 1:59:42 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

quote:

I think it sounds VERY ATTRACTIVE!

Of course you do, you'd be the one fucking a girl young enough to be your granddaughter.
Her on the other hand, well she's have to be fucking a guy old enough to be her grandfather, and thus may see things a little differently.
Also, free room and board is generally not enough of a bribe for creepy intergenerational sex.




Clearly, I will not give you an offer! [:D]





Lucylastic -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (5/30/2016 1:59:43 PM)

when I was 20, I was homeless, and a friend of mine said I could have his spare room, if I would look after his kid while he worked evenings.
The kid was fine, the spare room was fine, the rent was fine, everything seemed great. so I arrived with all my gear, only to find he expected me to sleep with him.
Yeah
No.
Not happening. It wasnt the age difference either.
Talk to her about the relationship thing first.
you could lose more than an acquaintance.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (5/30/2016 2:00:07 PM)

Also, remember that she is a bartender, and so knowing your name and chatting with you in a friendly way is just part of her job. Odds are she doesn't actually like you at all, in fact she may find you quite off-putting, but again, it is part of her job to not let you know that. I know this from having worked in bars for like 15 years.




Lucylastic -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (5/30/2016 2:00:48 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

Also, remember that she is a bartender, and so knowing your name and chatting with you in a friendly way is just part of her job. I know this from having worked in bars for like 15 years.

oh god yes, this.




thedeityspeaks -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (5/30/2016 2:00:49 PM)

Are you implying that your love and caring is centered on her and not yourself? If you gave a toss about her ambitions or future, you would contribute without the sexual element.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (5/30/2016 2:02:48 PM)

quote:

If you gave a toss about her ambitions or future, you would contribute without the sexual element.

This as well




seekingOwnertoo -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (5/30/2016 2:08:28 PM)

Thank you for your reply.

Yes, I plan to talk more about the idea, suggest what it entails.

You are 100 percent right, I don't want to create problems. So I plan to investigate very carefully.

If she is positive on it , I will ensure the expectations are clear.

Yet honestly, am extremely curious about the whole arrangement idea.

The paper said a LOT of young girls are doing it, because they can't earn a living or get though college otherwise. And to me, that could signal a trend to take advantage of, before everyone catches on to it. [:)]







Kaliko -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (5/30/2016 2:14:04 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: thedeityspeaks

Are you implying that your love and caring is centered on her and not yourself? If you gave a toss about her ambitions or future, you would contribute without the sexual element.


Who said he loves her? If it's an arrangement, I would imagine that's what's being arranged - a trade-off. I mean, honestly, why should he give a toss about her ambitions or future unless he's getting something in return for it? She's not family, they're not friends, it doesn't sound like he wants a girlfriend....he wants an arrangement of sex for living assistance.

It's not gonna happen, of course. :)

But, while I think it's noble and a great thing when someone helps another person with a financial struggle and expects nothing in return, I would hardly condemn anyone for expecting some contribution in return.




Lucylastic -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (5/30/2016 2:15:55 PM)

there are just too many predators out there just LOOKING for a prey like that. Its another line of shit predators go for. ANd both men and women get caught.
I am NOT suggesting that you are.....in anyway, not from my impression of you from previous posts over the years.
The guy I am talking about accepted that he fucked up, never made a move towards me, and I lived there for about a year....but I had backups, just in case he decided to become a total dick. He put a lock on my door(inside) for me to feel safe, he turned into a good friend.
But given im a lot older now, the situation sends up red flags straight away. I did a lot of stupid shit to myself when I was struggling/homeless.






tj444 -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (5/30/2016 2:17:23 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: seekingOwnertoo

Yesterday, Sunday before Memorial Day), late morning. I went to a local bar/restaurant. The bartender knew my name (i still don't know hers.) I was the only one there. So we talked, a lot.

She is from Alaska and Montana; got married to her boyfriend of 4 years who joined the service. They moved to South Carolina and within a year, found out marriage would never work.

This was all before she reached 21!

So now she is tending bar and trying to save for school. She is also studying to become a Manager at the Bar/Restaurant I stopped at. As additional information, she lives alone in an apartment less than a quarter mile from me. Plus, she is struggling to get the money together to buy a laptop for school.

Then I got home and saw in the Detroit Free Press, an article that mentions: arrangements are becoming very popular for young women.

And we all know what an arrangement entails; no? [;)]

This morning, I was doing some housework, and the thought occurred to me.

She has no friends or family locally. So why not talk more with her about an arrangement?

My thoughts of course are: she could live with me for free and save the money she earns; we both would share some companionship and comfort; and i could get sex regularly.

Of course when she had every thing worked out in her life; she would be free to go.

Ya know, I kind of liked the idea ... so

Please do share your thoughts; about a 21 year old girl becoming the kept submissive of a 59 year old man. :-) Myself, just love that age range. LOL


OMG.. why don't you just go all the way post an ad on Craigslist under rooms for rent saying "free rent for girlfriend".. you would fit right in with those stingy creeps that prey on desperate & homeless females.. You would be soliciting for sex, that's illegal, isn't it?? I am sure you wouldn't be the first one to try that with the bartender tho.. but if she is gonna prostitute herself (being as she is young & I assume attractive) she could make her rent in one hour, pay her rent herself and not bother having to put out to a cheap dude old enough to be her grandfather day after day, month after month.. If she is "very ambitious in business" as you say, she would want cash, not half a bed.. BTW, if it was that easy those creeps on Craigslist wouldn't be posting the same ad week after week with no takers..

Oh, and I think she told you about her tribulations so you would feel for her situation & give her a bigger than normal tip, nothing more..




OsideGirl -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (5/30/2016 2:17:57 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: seekingOwnertoo

Thank you for your reply.


The paper said a LOT of young girls are doing it




You keep repeating that like it's the gospel. What is "a lot"? What is the percentage? Because I'm willing to bet the percentage is quite small and then even lower for someone willing to be a paid live in submissive to a guy old enougt to be her grandfather.

What paper was the source? How much are the women being paid for this "arrangement"?




seekingOwnertoo -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (5/30/2016 2:21:03 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: thedeityspeaks

Are you implying that your love and caring is centered on her and not yourself? If you gave a toss about her ambitions or future, you would contribute without the sexual element.


quote]ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

quote:

If you gave a toss about her ambitions or future, you would contribute without the sexual element.

This as well



Appreciate your thoughts; although both of you might be way out of touch with today's reality. [:)]

Today life is .. tic for tat .. no? [:D]





Dollydots -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (5/30/2016 2:23:45 PM)

@SeekingOwnertoo

Let's say she agreed when you asked her..

For your own safety, wouldn't you really want to find out a lot about her prior to even considering moving her into your life/home?




Lucylastic -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (5/30/2016 2:24:02 PM)

no, women arent whores there to take advantage of just because they are having a hard time.




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