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Cinnamongirl67 -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/12/2016 12:41:55 PM)

I would like to welcome The Chinese to our culture.
Thank you so much for reminding us of what real respect is. Your presence was summoned.
I welcome you.
I can not guarantee your protection but I am so happy and grateful you are here. Thank you:
Dear God or Buddha we stand together and we are one nation.
Our mission is to protect who we see fit.
Friend. Pu o?
Very sweet people.
I respect your ways.




BamaD -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/12/2016 12:44:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

I await for them to figure out this dude's motive and why target a gay club? It would be interesting revelation.

He said he was working for ISIS, of course knowing that just makes me an Islamaphobe.




BamaD -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/12/2016 12:48:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

Hmmm...imagine that: a NON-white, NON-Christian fundamentalist, NON-NRA member, NON-Republican mass shooter. I'm sure he MUST be insane, given he doesn't fit any of the "typical" categories.

Except that very few shooters do.
I know that we are told that most are confirmed NRA members, even in the case at the Navel hospital were it turned out there wasn't a shooter it was confirmed by the press that the (non existant) shooter was a NRA member.




BamaD -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/12/2016 12:55:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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Thats right the gun grabbers know exactly what happened so who needs facts?

Facts such as . . . ?

Thank you for confirming what I said.
How did he get his weapons?
Why did he do it, although it sure seems like Islamic terroism, but why address that when you can use it as an excuse to grab guns?
We all know that gun laws stop terrorists, that is why there has never been a terrorist attack in France right? Oh wait, they had two big ones just recently.
Might be of interest to KD (although disapointing) if we find (as is most likely the case) that once again the attack came in a gun free zone.




Cinnamongirl67 -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/12/2016 1:01:27 PM)

I love the Chinese culture.
Smarter, more focused. Absolutely amazing people.
Welcome to the USA.
Bows in respect.
We are so happy.
Our God is one.
Thank you for hearing me.




WhoreMods -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/12/2016 1:11:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

If he wanted a frenchie he could have just asked somebody instead of shooting people...

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frenchie=french kiss or a kiss with tongues.
The (failed) joke being that he was so frustrated that he was so frightened to ask a guy for a kiss that seeing men kissing in public drove him to mass murder.




BamaD -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/12/2016 1:23:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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Thats right the gun grabbers know exactly what happened so who needs facts?

Facts such as . . . ?

Thank you for confirming what I said.
How did he get his weapons?
Why did he do it, although it sure seems like Islamic terroism, but why address that when you can use it as an excuse to grab guns?
We all know that gun laws stop terrorists, that is why there has never been a terrorist attack in France right? Oh wait, they had two big ones just recently.
Might be of interest to KD (although disapointing) if we find (as is most likely the case) that once again the attack came in a gun free zone.

I wasn't completly awake when I posted this and made a mistake.
It was a nightclub.
Therefore it was, as always, a gun free zone like France, so there were no leglly armed citizens present to defend themselves, sorry KD.




PeonForHer -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/12/2016 3:12:22 PM)

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I wasn't completly awake when I posted this and made a mistake.
It was a nightclub.
Therefore it was, as always, a gun free zone like France, so there were no leglly armed citizens present to defend themselves, sorry KD.


Really, what good would that ever do anyway? Say you're at a nightclub, it's the early hours of the morning, you're boozed up, avid to get it together with someone, the music's loud and booming, there's noise everywhere ... from what I hear about the weapons this man had, all those fifty people could have been dead before anyone realised what was happening

To me, if someone a) has that much psychopathic hatred in him and b) has the means to harm or kill ... then he just will be able to do it. So you have to deal with the psychopathic hatred and the means to kill. There really don't seem to be any other available strategies.




Kirata -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/12/2016 3:27:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

To me, if someone a) has that much psychopathic hatred in him and b) has the means to harm or kill ... then he just will be able to do it. So you have to deal with the psychopathic hatred and the means to kill. There really don't seem to be any other available strategies.

Assuming (if you'll indulge me) that infants aren't born full of psychopathic hatred, and given that psychopathy is notoriously refractive to treatment, I think we may be faced with the need to deal with the cultural and religious environments that direct human development down that path. I'm loath to interfere overmuch with either religious freedom or the rights of parents, but maybe a little more wouldn't hurt.

K.





mnottertail -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/12/2016 3:40:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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Thats right the gun grabbers know exactly what happened so who needs facts?

Facts such as . . . ?

Thank you for confirming what I said.
How did he get his weapons?
Why did he do it, although it sure seems like Islamic terroism, but why address that when you can use it as an excuse to grab guns?
We all know that gun laws stop terrorists, that is why there has never been a terrorist attack in France right? Oh wait, they had two big ones just recently.
Might be of interest to KD (although disapointing) if we find (as is most likely the case) that once again the attack came in a gun free zone.

I wasn't completly awake when I posted this and made a mistake.
It was a nightclub.
Therefore it was, as always, a gun free zone like France, so there were no leglly armed citizens present to defend themselves, sorry KD.

Ja, Florida and their nutsucker red state welfare patient big government laws......fuckin sad.




Kirata -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/12/2016 3:52:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Ja, Florida and their nutsucker red state welfare patient big government laws......fuckin sad.

Speaking as a Floridian, fuck you.

K.




mnottertail -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/12/2016 3:59:46 PM)

Speaking as a non-nutsucker, fuck you. One cannot divide out the blame of the 'oh, the gun free zone liberal gun grabbers' from the fact that it is a nutsucker state law. Let those who have ears, hear. Oh, this is a muslim problem, oh this is a NRA problem, oh this is a liberal problem.

You know, guns dont kill people, people do.

Yeah, take a flying fuck at yourownself.




Kirata -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/12/2016 4:08:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

take a flying fuck at yourownself.

Well I would need a running start, and that would be difficult without being in two places at once. [:D]

K.





ifmaz -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/12/2016 4:12:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: http://www.pinkpistols.org/2016/06/12/pink-pistols-saddened-by-attack-on-orlando-club/
Pink Pistols Saddened by Attack on Orlando Club

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE (Philadelphia, PA) June 12, 2016: Early Sunday, around 2AM Eastern Time, the Pulse nightclub in Orlando was attacked by an armed individual. Approximately 20 persons were killed and over double that wounded when the attacker, whom police have identified as Omar Mateen, a 29-year-old from Fort Pierce, FL, pushed his way into the club and opened fire on patrons. Weapons carried by Mateen are reported as an “assault-type” rifle, a handgun, and a suspected explosive device. UPDATE: Reports are that the death toll is around 50, with over 50 more wounded.

“It appears he was organized and well-prepared,” said Orlando Police Chief John Mina at a news conference on Sunday. Additionally, Orange County Sheriff Jerry Demings said “This is an incident … that we certainly classify as a domestic terror incident.” Authorities say the FBI is involved. Preliminary information reveals that Omar Mateen’s family is from Afghanistan, though Omar may have been born in the United States. His family is reported to be distraught at the actions and loss of their son.

Gwendolyn Patton, First Speaker of the Pink Pistols, an international GLBT self-defense organization, warns people not to jump immediately to the assailant’s guns as the object of blame, but to concentrate instead on Mateen’s violent acts. “The Pink Pistols gives condolences to all family and friends of those killed and injured at Pulse,” began Patton. “This is exactly the kind of heinous act that justifies our existence. At such a time of tragedy, let us not reach for the low-hanging fruit of blaming the killer’s guns. Let us stay focused on the fact that someone hated gay people so much they were ready to kill or injure so many. A human being did this. The human being’s tools are unimportant when compared to the bleakness of that person’s soul. I say again, GUNS did not do this. A human being did this, a dead human being. Our job now is not to demonize the man’s tools, but to condemn his acts and work to prevent such acts in the future.”

Patton’s concerns are that knee-jerk gun-control efforts may make preventing future events harder rather than easier, as only the law-abiding potential victims will be affected by such laws. “It is difficult, if not impossible, to foresee such an event,” continues Patton, “But if they cannot be prevented, then they must be stopped as fast as someone tries to start them.”

Some bars and other establishments that serve alcohol are difficult to protect because many states forbid the carrying of weapons where alcohol is served, but that just as one might have a designated driver who stays sober, one might have a designated carrier with a concealed-carry permit who goes armed and does not drink. “It’s sad that we must consider such things, but when there are persons out there who mean us harm, we must find ways to protect ourselves within the law.” Patton concludes.

The Pink Pistols is an international organization dedicated to the legal, safe, and responsible use of firearms for self-defense of the sexual-minority community. Chapters may be found across the United States and Canada. Though the Pink Pistols is for the GLBTQ community, it is not solely composed of the GLBTQ community, and all are welcome to join.


EDIT: Added the following from their About Us page:

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ORIGINAL: http://www.pinkpistols.org/about-the-pink-pistols/
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We teach queers to shoot. Then we teach others that we have done so. Armed queers don’t get bashed. We change the public perception of the sexual minorities, such that those who have in the past perceived them as safe targets for violence and hateful acts — beatings, assaults, rapes, murders — will realize that that now, a segment of the sexual minority population is now armed and effective with those arms. Those arms are also concealed, so they do not know which ones are safe to attack, and which are not…which they can harm as they have in the past, and which may draw a weapon and fight back.

The Pink Pistols are the ones who have decided to no longer be safe targets. They have teeth. They will use them.
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BamaD -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/12/2016 4:34:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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I wasn't completly awake when I posted this and made a mistake.
It was a nightclub.
Therefore it was, as always, a gun free zone like France, so there were no leglly armed citizens present to defend themselves, sorry KD.


Really, what good would that ever do anyway? Say you're at a nightclub, it's the early hours of the morning, you're boozed up, avid to get it together with someone, the music's loud and booming, there's noise everywhere ... from what I hear about the weapons this man had, all those fifty people could have been dead before anyone realised what was happening

To me, if someone a) has that much psychopathic hatred in him and b) has the means to harm or kill ... then he just will be able to do it. So you have to deal with the psychopathic hatred and the means to kill. There really don't seem to be any other available strategies.

Check the attack in Garland Tx, one man with a handgun vs two terroists with AK-47s and surprise. Result one dead private security guard, two dead terrorist.
I was not saying that you should arm drunks.
I was responding to KD's ridicule of gun owners for not stopping this.
They almost always happen in gun free zones so there will not be anyone to resist. He was one man, you want to tell me that he could face every direction at once, and that he basically just snaps his fingers and 50 people fall dead? You have stated that you know little of firearms and this demonstrates it.

You did say one thing that was correct. If a terrorist has this much hate he will start killing, regardless of people having firearms or them having been deprived of them.

As Garland , as well as the inclination to hit GUN FREE ZONES demonstrates that the anticipation of armed resistance helps. Hiding under a table.




Awareness -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/12/2016 4:40:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: Awareness

While America continues to indulge it's psychotic addiction to guns, this will continue to happen.

Mind you, this won't change anything. If they won't legislate after the fucking mass murder of children, they're sure as shit not going to legislate when someone attacks "a bunch of queers, goddamit!"



Right wingers are not supposed to say anything about it being a Muslim, but the left is free to take a two day head start with thier anti gun garbage? Sorry, it doesn't work that way.
Of course he's a fucking Muslim, I already said so and I already said it's a cultural thing because Islam is not exactly tolerant when it comes to gay people.

In fact, for reference, let's just highlight Islam's intolerance for gay people, just so the usual crowd of regressive leftists can't engage in any of their typical pandering to Muslims:

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mnottertail -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/12/2016 4:44:11 PM)

Well, lets just slow down there and look at a nutsucker rightist map in overlay and see where them people are.

LOOKS LIKE the same set of nutsuckers to me.




BamaD -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/12/2016 5:24:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Well, lets just slow down there and look at a nutsucker rightist map in overlay and see where them people are.

LOOKS LIKE the same set of nutsuckers to me.

Put your glasses on.




mnottertail -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/12/2016 5:48:45 PM)

I did. Its nutsuckers killing nutsuckers. You are still a fucking imbecile. What bothers me is hard working American taxpayers are paying you felchers to do this stupid shit.




Greta75 -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/12/2016 5:54:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

I await for them to figure out this dude's motive and why target a gay club? It would be interesting revelation.

ISIS just announced that the attack on the Orlando nightclub was carried out by one of their Islamic fighters.

Omar Saddiqui Mateen, Orlando nightclub terrorist shooter called 911 around the time of the attack to pledge allegiance to ISIS and mentioned the Boston bombers, according to a U.S. official.

The FBI previously investigated Omar Saddiqui Mateen for having ties and/or being a sympathizer to Islamic extremism, according to a law enforcement official and a U.S. official. There were two cases opened on Mateen in the past.

The gay club was targeted because it was a sharia law thing. His father said he saw two guys kissing in public 2 months earlier and was very upset by it.


Well, not surprise. American Born Muslim. Saw two gay men kissing in the bathroom, and decided to go crazy killing gays. WTF? No point being American Born and American educated at all. I do blame the religion. It's what the mosque is brainwashing them about.




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