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Rewarding women for faking it - 6/15/2016 8:15:34 PM   
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A woman can fake her sexuality, her orgasms, her facial features, her height, her boob size, and her hair color without being punished for it. In fact, a woman is often rewarded for faking it.

I saw someone online say this. I think his post was mean to disparage women. But the thing is, it is true! Women who fake her facial features, her height, her boob size, her hair colour etc etc., so get rewards and praised many times for faking it.

I'm a anti-plastic anything person. I like being all natural, I mean, I like my men all natural too, you got these Korean pop artists male who put on so much make up and it's plastic. I've dated men who got angry at me for refusing to wear make up to his company events. He says I will embarrass him. The thing is, I NEVER wear make up even to my own company events, even when I see a client. And I am not gonna start.

It's just bullshit that women are pressured to wear face paint at all.

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RE: Rewarding women for faking it - 6/15/2016 8:19:59 PM   
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Up until about 1955 or so, there was a law in England forbidding a woman to use these artifices. It was all a part of the old 'Witchcraft Law' and nobody had taken any notice of it since the days of Mathew Hopkin, but it stayed there until comparatively recently

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RE: Rewarding women for faking it - 6/15/2016 9:51:59 PM   
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In fact, a woman is often rewarded for faking it.

And is more often penalized for not faking it.

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RE: Rewarding women for faking it - 6/16/2016 1:45:29 AM   
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A woman can fake her sexuality, her orgasms, her facial features, her height, her boob size, and her hair color without being punished for it. In fact, a woman is often rewarded for faking it.

Isn't this exactly why Chris Rock called women "a bunch of fucking liars"?

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RE: Rewarding women for faking it - 6/16/2016 6:24:07 AM   
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Men fake it too. They wear raised shoes, fake tans, clothes to accentuate parts of their bodies, take pills to give them hard-ons when they can't, dye their hair, lie about how much money they have, how many women they've fucked, who they've fucked, tell you they're not fucking anyone but you. Men fake it just as much as women do, so we also have to cut through the bull, but just in a different way.

The problem about the way most women are is that they are like that FOR MEN in the first place. If they felt comfortable in their own skin not having to try to live up to some media expectation shoved down their throats before they hit puberty then maybe they would be more natural.

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RE: Rewarding women for faking it - 6/16/2016 10:49:31 AM   
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Up until about 1955 or so, there was a law in England forbidding a woman to use these artifices. It was all a part of the old 'Witchcraft Law' and nobody had taken any notice of it since the days of Mathew Hopkin, but it stayed there until comparatively recently

I think the witchcraft laws were definitely repealed in the '50s. You can probably pin the date by reading Gerald Gardner's bullshit: his first piece of nonsense about the benevolent matriachal pagan religion that the evil Christians failed to wipe out was published as fiction. After the witchcraft laws were repealed, he was able to publish his lying bullshit about this as non fiction instead.

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RE: Rewarding women for faking it - 6/16/2016 11:15:48 AM   
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I don't wear makeup. I have long, straight hair streaked with gray. I'm about 20 lbs overweight.

If men don't like it....fuck 'em.

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RE: Rewarding women for faking it - 6/16/2016 1:11:50 PM   
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Men fake it too. They wear raised shoes, fake tans, clothes to accentuate parts of their bodies, take pills to give them hard-ons when they can't, dye their hair, lie about how much money they have, how many women they've fucked, who they've fucked, tell you they're not fucking anyone but you. Men fake it just as much as women do, so we also have to cut through the bull, but just in a different way.

The problem about the way most women are is that they are like that FOR MEN in the first place. If they felt comfortable in their own skin not having to try to live up to some media expectation shoved down their throats before they hit puberty then maybe they would be more natural.

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QFT. If I had a nickel for every itty bitty man lawyer who wears cowboy boots with high heels....

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RE: Rewarding women for faking it - 6/17/2016 9:30:13 AM   
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im me, i dont wear make up much ... except when i feel like it...im a bit overweight and there is no hiding that...im a natural size 40 C .... im all natural... i dont even shave the yohaa cause i believe in being all natural

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RE: Rewarding women for faking it - 6/19/2016 2:07:20 PM   
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I don't have that problem, of course I like *Forced Orgasms.*

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RE: Rewarding women for faking it - 6/19/2016 4:40:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Greta75

A woman can fake her sexuality, her orgasms, her facial features, her height, her boob size, and her hair color without being punished for it. In fact, a woman is often rewarded for faking it.

I saw someone online say this. I think his post was mean to disparage women. But the thing is, it is true! Women who fake her facial features, her height, her boob size, her hair colour etc etc., so get rewards and praised many times for faking it.

I'm a anti-plastic anything person. I like being all natural, I mean, I like my men all natural too, you got these Korean pop artists male who put on so much make up and it's plastic. I've dated men who got angry at me for refusing to wear make up to his company events. He says I will embarrass him. The thing is, I NEVER wear make up even to my own company events, even when I see a client. And I am not gonna start.

It's just bullshit that women are pressured to wear face paint at all.


I've faked my intelligence, dick size, ability to fuck for days, number of (paid for) houses, financial assets, height, weight and hair.....for 20 years.

I've always been an equal opportunity faker.

If it works for them....I see no reason not to emulate.

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RE: Rewarding women for faking it - 6/20/2016 5:36:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: needlesandpins
The problem about the way most women are is that they are like that FOR MEN in the first place. If they felt comfortable in their own skin not having to try to live up to some media expectation shoved down their throats before they hit puberty then maybe they would be more natural.

needles


I would comment on the first remark there by saying that from my observation women are for more hyper-critical of other women in how they present themselves in public.

As to the second remark quoted, oh boy ...

I loved taking the nieces to the store but the worst thing was the grocery store check-out line. What unbelievable crap in those magazines! That and all the candy bars. The magazines were full of crap about Hollywood stars, etc. but also complete garbage like "How to look like a bikini model 6 weeks after the baby! [is born]. All these 'tips' on make-up, hair, etc.

Looking at a three yr. old and the eight yr. old's eyes locking in on those mag covers (and we know how kids eyes look when locked in) ... disturbed me greatly.

I don't remember exactly what (good improvisors never remember those details) but I did everything possible to divert their attention from that crap.

Ugh! What mind poison those things are.

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RE: Rewarding women for faking it - 6/20/2016 9:39:20 AM   
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Those things are blatant and should have had attention drawn to how false they are. That a woman who is a good parent wouldn't want to do that considering how much it would require someone else taking care of the baby. They were an opportunity for you to address how wrong this is.

Worse than that are tv commercials for soap or laundry detergent when the woman looks like a model and yet has a smiling family in the background. There's nothing to use to start a conversation on the falsity of picking such people as salespeople.

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RE: Rewarding women for faking it - 6/20/2016 4:28:21 PM   
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How has no one linked to this?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0OeM6UUAoI

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RE: Rewarding women for faking it - 6/20/2016 7:44:32 PM   
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Those things are blatant and should have had attention drawn to how false they are. That a woman who is a good parent wouldn't want to do that considering how much it would require someone else taking care of the baby. They were an opportunity for you to address how wrong this is.

Worse than that are tv commercials for soap or laundry detergent when the woman looks like a model and yet has a smiling family in the background. There's nothing to use to start a conversation on the falsity of picking such people as salespeople.


I have observed how much kids learn by their own mind if given the basics to begin with.

I also strongly feel that 3-8 yr. old kids are ill prepared for and and quite unsuited for sociopolitical discussion at that age, and that it's entirely inappropriate to even consider such a thing.

I gave them good experience, as best I could. Kids will reach their hands an face into almost anything and everything that comes to notice. That's nature, and a process of growth and evolution. I figured out very early that this uncle's first task was "attention diversion." There is not enough time in the day to teach them the 'evils' about everything. I was too busy teaching the younger one how to not burn her hands on the stove and the both of them (at different times) how to recognize and properly proceed through a stop sign when we were out on the bikes.

More simply, I took them to the park on the bikes or to the grocery store because they wanted to go, and I was available to that task. Basic survival skills come first. Basic learning skills soon after.

Because of their mom and first dad and subsequent step dad, they knew that they were valued for who they were. I put in my minor contribution to that same purpose at various times, as did others.

They never had to have it preached to them about the evils of the idiotic magazines at the grocery store; their mom and dads and I and others took them to the library often enough (on bikes, in my case) to crowd out the voluminous 'bad information' seemingly everywhere else, in far more places than just the check-out counter at the grocery store.

Their first dad was a bit 'preachy,' but their mom and second dad weren't, and neither was I.

FF: One was married 4 years ago, the other will be in two months. Neither of them have anything close to "self esteem issues," nor ever did, other than temporarily. That having everything to do with the unsavory social environment at nearly every school, and nothing at all to do with the magazines at the grocery store.

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RE: Rewarding women for faking it - 6/20/2016 8:47:22 PM   
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There are appropriate way to open discussions of this sort with children of various ages. You don't have to wait till they're 16 to do so.

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RE: Rewarding women for faking it - 6/21/2016 7:23:12 AM   
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The problem about the way most women are is that they are like that FOR MEN in the first place. If they felt comfortable in their own skin not having to try to live up to some media expectation shoved down their throats before they hit puberty then maybe they would be more natural.

needles


I would comment on the first remark there by saying that from my observation women are for more hyper-critical of other women in how they present themselves in public.

As to the second remark quoted, oh boy ...

I loved taking the nieces to the store but the worst thing was the grocery store check-out line. What unbelievable crap in those magazines! That and all the candy bars. The magazines were full of crap about Hollywood stars, etc. but also complete garbage like "How to look like a bikini model 6 weeks after the baby! [is born]. All these 'tips' on make-up, hair, etc.

Looking at a three yr. old and the eight yr. old's eyes locking in on those mag covers (and we know how kids eyes look when locked in) ... disturbed me greatly.

I don't remember exactly what (good improvisors never remember those details) but I did everything possible to divert their attention from that crap.

Ugh! What mind poison those things are.



I'm a horse person by nature, therefore every man that has entered my life has been told right from the start that it goes like this; I get up early to feed animals, I clean out animals and their needs come first. If you want someone that looks like a Barbie doll, and cleans house all day then I suggest you either pick one that has no animals, or you stay home with mummy.

I don't, and never will present myself to compete with other women, and here's why; I don't care about them. I'm not in competition with them, and I don't want what they have, nor what they want.

I used to walk my son to school and stand their with the other mums listening to how they'd been up since stupid o'clock to get in the shower, hair and make-up done, kids sorted, and husband off to work. I'd have been up since 6-30/7am, fed and mucked out the horses, dogs, hens, cats, seen to kids, possibly put washing on the line, told ex to get out of bed, walked son a mile up to school with dogs, and would be stood there not remembering if I'd even brushed my hair yet, but with the possibility that it had hay and straw in it.

I was appalled at the 'clothes' that some of the girls were allowed to wear to a party when my son was 10. They looked like mini hookers. My neighbour's daughters on one side are the same. They look like common little tarts. It's media lead in a sense, but parents are also as much to blame in part. However, if it wasn't for their drive to impress the boys, and their mothers want for them to do it, then the media would have no sway.

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RE: Rewarding women for faking it - 6/21/2016 12:30:25 PM   
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My daughter went to private schools with dress codes. She was a preteen when we discovered that there were no clothes for sale that fit the dress codes. I even tried the Penney's school catelog and zilch.

You can't buy girls shorts that are longer than their fingertips. There are none for sale, only stuff that is cut so high their ass is visible.
She took all her riding jeans and cut them into shorts and I had to buy her new jeans.

So I would have taken umbrage at anyone who claimed it was me dressing her that way. But I wasn't going to insist she wore a burka either. She was a kid and should be allowed to run around in shorts and a tank top when the temps were approaching 90.

As far as it being her clothing that somehow forced grown men to try to pick her up, bs. The first time she was just hitting puberty, in breeches and high boots with the crop in her boot. Fully covered with two other girls dressed identical, waiting in line to buy lunch while the mother who drove them that day was in another store nearby. Explaining what he meant and that her feeling icky was not her fault but his was not something I had expected to do six months before she hit double digits.

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RE: Rewarding women for faking it - 6/21/2016 1:10:00 PM   
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My daughter went to private schools with dress codes. She was a preteen when we discovered that there were no clothes for sale that fit the dress codes. I even tried the Penney's school catelog and zilch.

You can't buy girls shorts that are longer than their fingertips. There are none for sale, only stuff that is cut so high their ass is visible.
She took all her riding jeans and cut them into shorts and I had to buy her new jeans.

So I would have taken umbrage at anyone who claimed it was me dressing her that way. But I wasn't going to insist she wore a burka either. She was a kid and should be allowed to run around in shorts and a tank top when the temps were approaching 90.

As far as it being her clothing that somehow forced grown men to try to pick her up, bs. The first time she was just hitting puberty, in breeches and high boots with the crop in her boot. Fully covered with two other girls dressed identical, waiting in line to buy lunch while the mother who drove them that day was in another store nearby. Explaining what he meant and that her feeling icky was not her fault but his was not something I had expected to do six months before she hit double digits.



You've taken what I said out of context with your own daughter's experiences. Being the same horse person I've had exactly the same thing happen. There is a huge difference between being unintentionally objectified through a man's pervy fantasy, and intentionally allowing your daughter to dress like a tart at ten in heels, make-up, a skirt like a belt, and so on.

Shorts, yeah, all cool, but like you stated, why do they all have to so short, and tight that you can see their smile? That is not for other women because FFS I don't want to see that on any woman in general public, no matter how cute are arse is.

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RE: Rewarding women for faking it - 6/21/2016 1:22:28 PM   
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I've faked my intelligence,

How is this possible unless she is deaf?


dick size,

How is this possible unless she is blind?


ability to fuck for days,


How is this possible if someone else is with you?


height,

How is this possible if she is not blind?


weight


How is this possible unless she is blind?

and hair

How is this possible unless she is blind?



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