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Expressing Sissy insights to a FemDom - 6/24/2016 9:01:17 PM   
janet9


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Dear Mistresses

Sometimes a sissy gains insights to a FemDom Mistress, their character and what they are truly like. Do you believe it is OK for a sissy to express her insights or best to keep quiet and just be good.
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RE: Expressing Sissy insights to a FemDom - 6/24/2016 9:56:51 PM   
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Would you care to elaborate what sorts of insights you have gleaned as a sissy that the average non-sissy male sub is less attuned to?

If you feel, for instance, that you understand women better by identifying more closely with them, then your identification would more than likely take the shape of a submissive female, rather than that of a FemDom.

If by expressing insights, you mean trying your hand at psychoanalyzing your Mistress, this might not go over very well in certain touchy areas.

The level of friendship and openness in communications which have been established in any relationship would determine what would be appropriate for you to voice and what would be advisable for you to keep to yourself.

In a D/s dynamic, if your insights help you to anticipate your Mistress's wishes, you can put them to good use; otherwise, you might make her feel uncomfortable and ruin your chances of becoming her confidante.

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RE: Expressing Sissy insights to a FemDom - 6/24/2016 10:13:41 PM   
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Appreciate your views. Meant simple insights like her being bright or devious, nothing exceptional. Though by expressing them it means building on them, though it might seem like taking the lead from a Mistress

<In a D/s dynamic, if your insights help you to anticipate your Mistress's wishes, you can put them to good use; otherwise, you might make her feel uncomfortable and ruin your chances of becoming her confidante. >
Yes that seems right

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RE: Expressing Sissy insights to a FemDom - 6/25/2016 12:05:37 PM   
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So, why would a person have to be a sissy to have such insights?

I don't mean to discourage you but some women aren't into sissification.


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RE: Expressing Sissy insights to a FemDom - 6/25/2016 2:41:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: janet9
Appreciate your views. Meant simple insights like her being bright or devious, nothing exceptional. Though by expressing them it means building on them, though it might seem like taking the lead from a Mistress


I am confused as to how you would be taking the lead. I am getting mixed messages from your posts. Please provide more detail.
It would not be prudent of a sub, whether sissy or not, to not see his Mistress as being bright. I trust your Mistress would also see you as being bright.
Bright + Devious = Cunning, but could indicate Manipulative. If you do not have a problem with "seeing through" or with "playing along" with this, then chill out and enjoy yourselves.

She may have a methodology that works for her, or that she wants to try out for effectiveness on you, to get inside your head, discover what makes you tick, what presses your buttons. If this is the case, then what advantage would it serve you to call her out? You may end up making a fool of yourself with your second guessing.

I get the sense that you are feeling smug about yourself, that you think you are outsmarting her. You are being disrespectful if this is so.
Having a playful rapport is one thing, but acting like a smartass is uncool. Unless a Mistress wants a *bratty* kind of sub, you will find yourself becoming persona non grata. Do not shoot yourself in the foot.

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So, why would a person have to be a sissy to have such insights?

I don't mean to discourage you but some women aren't into sissification.


Appreciate what you have, janet, and count your blessings. We have sissyCD friends who have a hard time finding a straight Domme interested in wanting a sissy sub.

I am with LP in getting turned off by sissification, forced fem, and effeminate mannerisms. Sissies do not turn me on sexually, not one iota. I have a manly man for my long-time sub partner.

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RE: Expressing Sissy insights to a FemDom - 6/25/2016 3:53:11 PM   
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quote:

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Appreciate your views. Meant simple insights like her being bright or devious, nothing exceptional. Though by expressing them it means building on them, though it might seem like taking the lead from a Mistress

Male dom here so take this opinion for what it's worth.

If Carol serves to build on my strong points and diminish my weak points then she makes me a better man and honestly, it's hard to conceive of a more valuable service. She is my mate and I exist in a symbiosis with her. Of course her and her opinions mold and shape me. I would have it no other way. But that has nothing to do with how is in charge. She offers her insights, intellect, and opinion. I do my best to evaluate it and find the places where she is right and then act on them. For the most part, if I tell her she's wrong, she accepts that gracefully.

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RE: Expressing Sissy insights to a FemDom - 6/25/2016 4:40:33 PM   
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<So, why would a person have to be a sissy to have such insights? >

no suggestion there of having to be a sissy to have insights

< some women aren't into sissification >

- of course not, no

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RE: Expressing Sissy insights to a FemDom - 6/25/2016 4:44:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: HoneyBears

I get the sense that you are feeling smug about yourself, that you think you are outsmarting her. You are being disrespectful if this is so.



no theres no second guessing, smugness nor disrepect
again, appreciate your views

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RE: Expressing Sissy insights to a FemDom - 6/25/2016 5:15:43 PM   
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quote:

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no theres no second guessing, smugness nor disrepect
again, appreciate your views

Ok, then where does the keeping quiet and just being good come into it by expressing yourself? You evidently are not referring to being complimentary since giving positive feedback should not cause you concern.

Are you unsure about how to communicate your opinions or how to make suggestions, as to whether a domme would view them either as Topping from the bottom or else not be receptive to any constructive criticism? It is not fair to expect others to read your mind and for you to fail to be a responsive partner.

Or, is it more that your self-image of being a sissy is how you imagine a demure girl *should* act, as in quiet, docile and passive ... Not entitled to having a voice, having no say, brainless and bimbo-like?... If so, then you have latched onto a caricature which has little basis in reality. Many females would find this outlook offensive and extremely sexist.

Just saying.

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RE: Expressing Sissy insights to a FemDom - 6/25/2016 7:07:14 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: HoneyBears

Ok, then where does the keeping quiet and just being good come into it by expressing yourself?

You evidently are not referring to being complimentary since giving positive feedback should not cause you concern.



It’s the alternative to expressing, its one or the other

Might not be seen as complimentary or positive of course, eg is devious necessarily complimentary or positive?

< It is not fair to expect others to read your mind
self-image of being a sissy is how you imagine a demure girl *should* act >

theres no expectation of these things

Appreciate your just saying.

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RE: Expressing Sissy insights to a FemDom - 6/25/2016 7:14:02 PM   
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For me personally it would depend on your motivations and actions as well as words. Timing, situation, type of relationship would also make a difference..



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RE: Expressing Sissy insights to a FemDom - 7/1/2016 6:05:27 PM   
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There is no need to express your insights unless asked. We know who and what we are, and we don't need your insights.

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RE: Expressing Sissy insights to a FemDom - 7/1/2016 6:52:05 PM   
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quote:

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There is no need to express your insights unless asked. We know who and what we are, and we don't need your insights.

Who is this "We"? So glad I do not belong to the sissy-domme club.

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RE: Expressing Sissy insights to a FemDom - 7/1/2016 8:24:28 PM   
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Oh here we go with that bullshit.

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RE: Expressing Sissy insights to a FemDom - 7/1/2016 10:26:36 PM   
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Oh dear.

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RE: Expressing Sissy insights to a FemDom - 7/1/2016 11:21:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressRage

Oh here we go with that bullshit.

Honey, the only bullshit here is that you thnk you have any say over who participates here.

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RE: Expressing Sissy insights to a FemDom - 7/2/2016 6:10:37 AM   
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When he says something that is an apparent trap, I've been known to respond by asking if there's any good answer to that. It makes him laugh which here is always a good thing. Whether your dominant will enjoy you talking to her is something you need to ask her. They're not all a hive mind.

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RE: Expressing Sissy insights to a FemDom - 7/2/2016 6:38:29 AM   
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I'm not sure which corner of your mind you pulled that from stef LOL. I never indicated anything like that.

In my reply HoneyBears was focusing on the word we, when the key word in my post was the word NEED. Dominants should be self-actualized enough that they don't NEED insights from slaves. Wanting it is another matter, but I covered that in my first sentence when I said, "unless asked."

The problem with reading with a filter is that you read what you THINK is being said, rather than what is actually being said.


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RE: Expressing Sissy insights to a FemDom - 7/2/2016 11:21:41 AM   
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Dominants should be self-actualized enough that they don't NEED insights from slaves.

Man.... well then color me un-self-actualized. In order to be fully self-actualized I would need to first be fully self-aware. Yeah, that hasn't happened to me yet.

In all my experience, about the only thing harder than seeing another human clearly is seeing myself clearly. I have doubts that even the Dalai Lama is self-actualized enough to agree with this statement. Out of all the people in the entire world that are likely to offer on-target insights, the person I chose as my other half would be top of that list by miles and miles.

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RE: Expressing Sissy insights to a FemDom - 7/2/2016 7:29:28 PM   
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There is something about this thread that I haven't been able to determine that makes all of the difference about my answer.

I'm not seeing anything in the original or the replies about a specific relationship with said Domme. I'm seeing terms like 'a' Domme and other terms that get me thinking that this isn't a D/s dynamic in play. With this in mind, I can say I wouldn't be terribly welcome to hear such "insights". There are certain things I only want to hear from my intimate partners when it comes to my play, kink, sexuality, or my mindset during such activities. If it were some casual acquaintance dressed en femme that wanted to comment on something that would be over and above familiarity level, I would prefer they didn't.

An actual partner, I would see in a completely different way.


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