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closetoyou -> American Police above the Law... (7/7/2016 9:13:04 AM)
as a retired Police Officer in the U.K I am absolutely disgusted , as any right minded person, any colour, of the continuing ruthless actions of the officers. they are a law unto themselves, and should be brought to justice ,, not mob rule, someone there must do something.

WickedsDesire -> RE: American Police above the Law... (7/7/2016 10:31:45 AM)
closetoyou http://www.collarchat.com/m_4926651/tm.htm

BamaD -> RE: American Police above the Law... (7/7/2016 11:17:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: closetoyou as a retired Police Officer in the U.K I am absolutely disgusted , as any right minded person, any colour, of the continuing ruthless actions of the officers. they are a law unto themselves, and should be brought to justice ,, not mob rule, someone there must do something. If you don't believe they are you haven't been paying attention.

JeffBC -> RE: American Police above the Law... (7/7/2016 11:33:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: closetoyou as a retired Police Officer in the U.K I am absolutely disgusted , as any right minded person, any colour, of the continuing ruthless actions of the officers. they are a law unto themselves, and should be brought to justice ,, not mob rule, someone there must do something. We are trying but the problem can only be attacked indirectly. That's why you see Trump and Sanders this go around. The "someone" you are referring to is "we the people" and sadly, most Americans seem to have no issue with killing and death so long as it's happening far away from them and doesn't involve a white female.

popeye1250 -> RE: American Police above the Law... (7/8/2016 6:09:38 PM)
Funny, you could say that about Hillary Clinton too!

AtUrCervix -> RE: American Police above the Law... (7/8/2016 6:30:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: closetoyou as a retired Police Officer in the U.K I am absolutely disgusted , as any right minded person, any colour, of the continuing ruthless actions of the officers. they are a law unto themselves, and should be brought to justice ,, not mob rule, someone there must do something. You disgust me. 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the police in this country are straight up....great men and women, working hard and diligently. They are working under horrific conditions with rules that constrict them. You are an insult to Police everywhere.

thompsonx -> RE: American Police above the Law... (7/8/2016 8:10:40 PM)
ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the police in this country are straight up....great men and women, working hard and diligently. Roflmfao[8\|]

Awareness -> RE: American Police above the Law... (7/8/2016 10:08:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix quote: ORIGINAL: closetoyou as a retired Police Officer in the U.K I am absolutely disgusted , as any right minded person, any colour, of the continuing ruthless actions of the officers. they are a law unto themselves, and should be brought to justice ,, not mob rule, someone there must do something. You disgust me. 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the police in this country are straight up....great men and women, working hard and diligently. No. They are not. You are hopelessly naive.

closetoyou -> RE: American Police above the Law... (7/9/2016 2:01:21 AM)
IF IF IF they did not have GUNS, this disaster would not have happened. idiots like you do not help the problem.

DaddySatyr -> RE: American Police above the Law... (7/9/2016 2:04:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: closetoyou IF IF IF they did not have GUNS, this disaster would not have happened. idiots like you do not help the problem. IF ... It's a big word, really. It's right in the middle of "Life". If the queen of the UK had balls, she'd be king. Michael

closetoyou -> RE: American Police above the Law... (7/9/2016 2:13:24 AM)
mikey baby glad someone has a sense of humour, the situation will never change, ITS A SHAME. Martin.

DaddySatyr -> RE: American Police above the Law... (7/9/2016 2:14:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: closetoyou mikey baby glad someone has a sense of humour, the situation will never change, ITS A SHAME. Martin. I'm not your baby and my mother didn't name me "Mikey". Kindly stop disrespecting her wishes, Marty. Michael

Kirata -> RE: American Police above the Law... (7/9/2016 2:33:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: closetoyou mikey baby glad someone has a sense of humour, the situation will never change, ITS A SHAME. Yeah, it's a shame.... 2003: Firearms offences more than double since Dunblane Gun crime has more than doubled since 1996, the year of the Dunblane massacre, according to the latest Home Office statistics. 2009: Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent. By contrast, the U.S. homicide rate which peaked in the early 90's had dropped by almost half in 2010. K.

Lucylastic -> RE: American Police above the Law... (7/9/2016 3:48:51 AM)
Ohhhhhh dear

crazyml -> RE: American Police above the Law... (7/9/2016 4:10:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: closetoyou mikey baby glad someone has a sense of humour, the situation will never change, ITS A SHAME. Yeah, it's a shame.... 2003: Firearms offences more than double since Dunblane Gun crime has more than doubled since 1996, the year of the Dunblane massacre, according to the latest Home Office statistics. 2009: Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent. By contrast, the U.S. homicide rate which peaked in the early 90's had dropped by almost half in 2010. K. [image]http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/134DB/production/_85876097_homicides_guns_624_v3.png[/image]

Lucylastic -> RE: American Police above the Law... (7/9/2016 4:42:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: closetoyou mikey baby glad someone has a sense of humour, the situation will never change, ITS A SHAME. Yeah, it's a shame.... 2003: Firearms offences more than double since Dunblane Gun crime has more than doubled since 1996, the year of the Dunblane massacre, according to the latest Home Office statistics. 2009: Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent. By contrast, the U.S. homicide rate which peaked in the early 90's had dropped by almost half in 2010. K. Isnt that strange. You are mentioning firearm OFFENCES NOT Homicides Try being a little intellectually honest, Because Homicide rates are down....I have the stats from the home office, but they are in PDF form but in 2003, there were 1047 homicides (total) not all gun deaths. In 2009 there were 664 homicides (total) and in 2015, there were 574 homicides total. Now that includes manslaughter, infanticide, corporate manslaughter and Murder(not simply gun deaths) Now you want to claim that firearms offences have shrunk by half you will have to show your method, or see the difference between homicides and firearm offences.

Edwird -> RE: American Police above the Law... (7/9/2016 5:02:20 AM)
Remember that this is the guy who, after having it explained to him the process of how to sample a target population properly (whether bacteria or people or tossed aluminum cans) as explained in every math department at every university in the world, referred to that explanation as "your sophistry." Which brings to mind a likely title for a new and exciting TV series on AMC or HBO; Bad Sampling Or maybe; Good Sampling Gone Bad

Edwird -> RE: American Police above the Law... (7/9/2016 5:28:54 AM)
Good science, including good statistics or good math of any sort, is not a friend of fanciful ideology.

Kirata -> RE: American Police above the Law... (7/9/2016 5:42:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Isnt that strange. You are mentioning firearm OFFENCES NOT Homicides Try being a little intellectually honest, Because Homicide rates are down....I have the stats from the home office, but they are in PDF form but in 2003, there were 1047 homicides (total) not all gun deaths. In 2009 there were 664 homicides (total) and in 2015, there were 574 homicides total. Now that includes manslaughter, infanticide, corporate manslaughter and Murder(not simply gun deaths) Now you want to claim that firearms offences have shrunk by half you will have to show your method, or see the difference between homicides and firearm offences. Well I wasn't trying to be sly... just to say that even gun laws as strict as the UK's don't make the gun problem go away. But as you bring up the UK's homicide stats, you should know that as far as I'm aware they aren't homicide stats. Since 1967, homicide figures for England and Wales have been adjusted to exclude any cases which do not result in conviction ~Source The claim is made that this "adjustment" only reduces the numbers by 13-15%, but I don't see any reason to trust it. Mortality figures (for example from 2011, see here) list 1251 deaths resulting from "undetermined intent" plus another 488 from "assault; death from injury or poisoning, event awaiting determination of intent," which seems to me to leave a lot of potential homicides uncounted, on top of the ones that aren't counted because nobody was ever convicted. K.

Kirata -> RE: American Police above the Law... (7/9/2016 5:45:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Edwird Remember that this is the guy who, after having it explained to him the process of how to sample a target population properly (whether bacteria or people or tossed aluminum cans) as explained in every math department at every university in the world, referred to that explanation as "your sophistry." I wouldn't want to suggest that you're making shit up, but I'd like to check that claim. Got a link? K.

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