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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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the fact the victim is dead proves his guilt.

No, but him pointing the gun at the cop is a good reason to suspect his guilt.

The last report I saw said that the officer's body camera showed that the fleeing suspect turned with a gun in his hand and started to bring the weapon up to bear. I don't know whether he got it up far enough to be actually pointed at the officer, but I do know that nobody in their right mind could be reasonably expected to let him get that far.

K.

Exactly.

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After reviewing the shooting footage, Milwaukee Chief Edward Flynn said, “The individual did turn toward the officer with a firearm in his hand.” Chief Flynn added that Smith was “raising up with” the gun at the time that he was shot by the officer.


What we do not know is if he was raising his hands in the air to take aim or give up.

The initial stop occurred at around 3:30 PM on Saturday when Milwaukee police officers conducted a traffic stop on a suspicious vehicle. After the car stopped, at least two of the vehicle’s occupants, including Smith, fled on foot.

Here we go with a 4th amendment violation of probable suspicion substituted for probable cause.

An unidentified 24-year-old black male officer chased after Smith. During the chase, Smith pulled out a stolen pistol that was fully loaded with stolen ammunition, and Smith raised the pistol to the officer. The officer ordered Smith to drop the gun and shot when he did not comply.

There is no audio on the body camera footage because there is a 30 second audio delay on the body camera.

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

People destroy another's property because... reasons. People hack innocents to death because... reasons. But reason neither explains nor justifies their actions. It serves only to rationalize their pathological lack of empathy for the affected victims. Neither jobs nor benefits will cure that.

K.
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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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It's also been governed by the liberal failed policies for decades.

Actually, it is due to Neo-liberalism economic policy, which is not at all anything like FDR Liberalism but very much in line with small government, reduced regulations, free market corporatism. I would be surprised you did not know that neo-liberalism replaced Keynesian economics in the hearts of Republican politicos. Are you trying to bullshit me to believing that big government liberalism lead to the out sourcing of so much of our manufacturing jobs and that big government liberalism automated so much of the remaining factories? If that is your thesis, you should be embarrassed.

Lol, I love socialists. It's always someone else's fault. Their system has never worked and has always exasperated bad situations. But, it's always someone else's fault. Way to be exactly stereotype VML.

People destroy another's property because... reasons. People hack innocents to death because... reasons. But reason neither explains nor justifies their actions. It serves only to rationalize their pathological lack of empathy for the affected victims. Neither jobs nor benefits will cure that.

K.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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It's also been governed by the liberal failed policies for decades.

Actually, it is due to Neo-liberalism economic policy, which is not at all anything like FDR Liberalism but very much in line with small government, reduced regulations, free market corporatism. I would be surprised you did not know that neo-liberalism replaced Keynesian economics in the hearts of Republican politicos. Are you trying to bullshit me to believing that big government liberalism lead to the out sourcing of so much of our manufacturing jobs and that big government liberalism automated so much of the remaining factories? If that is your thesis, you should be embarrassed.

Lol, I love socialists. It's always someone else's fault. Their system has never worked and has always exasperated bad situations. But, it's always someone else's fault. Way to be exactly stereotype VML.

People destroy another's property because... reasons. People hack innocents to death because... reasons. But reason neither explains nor justifies their actions. It serves only to rationalize their pathological lack of empathy for the affected victims. Neither jobs nor benefits will cure that.

K.

Jobs? What jobs? Low skill jobs are disappearing and those that remain pay less than a living wage.

Rising job skill requirements were a signature feature of the U.S. economy in the 20th century.

Technological change, shifts in the global geography of production, and large investments in human capital slowed or reversed the growth of jobs comprised of physical, routine tasks while prompting rapid growth in jobs requiring high levels of formal education and technical knowledge.

In 1900, agriculture and manufacturing alone employed two-
thirds of all workers, the great majority of them holding manual and routine jobs in field and factory. Much of the remaining workforce was engaged in similarly low-skill work in the Nation’s mines, shops, and offices.

As of 2000, about 38 percent of the U.S. workforce was employed in occupations requiring only low-level academic, technical, and reasoning skills; in rural America, 42.2 percent of all jobs were in such low-skill occupations, down from 44.4 percent in 1990.

source

The perception that manufacturing jobs
are highly paid disguises how many workers
are stuck at the bottom.

Today, more than 600,000 manufacturing workers
make just $9.60 per hour or less. More than 1.5 million
manufacturing workers—one out of every four—
make $11.91 or less.

In the largest segment of the manufacturing base—
automotive—wages have declined even faster.
>
Real wages for auto parts workers, who now account
for three of every four autoworker jobs, fell by nearly
14 percent from 2003 to 2013—three times faster than
for manufacturing as a whole, and nine times faster
than the decline for all occupations.
>
The growth in the number of auto parts jobs is
cause for concern, because the typical parts worker
makes one-third less than the typical auto assembly
worker, and puts downward pressure on the higher
assembly wages.



source

Remaining blind to the impact of outsourcing and technological revolutions on the plight of the poor will not solve a problem that shows promise of getting worse; nor will inventing some imagined lack of empathy help reduce the isolation of the disadvantaged into ghettos.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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It's also been governed by the liberal failed policies for decades.

Actually, it is due to Neo-liberalism economic policy, which is not at all anything like FDR Liberalism but very much in line with small government, reduced regulations, free market corporatism. I would be surprised you did not know that neo-liberalism replaced Keynesian economics in the hearts of Republican politicos. Are you trying to bullshit me to believing that big government liberalism lead to the out sourcing of so much of our manufacturing jobs and that big government liberalism automated so much of the remaining factories? If that is your thesis, you should be embarrassed.

Lol, I love socialists. It's always someone else's fault. Their system has never worked and has always exasperated bad situations. But, it's always someone else's fault. Way to be exactly stereotype VML.

People destroy another's property because... reasons. People hack innocents to death because... reasons. But reason neither explains nor justifies their actions. It serves only to rationalize their pathological lack of empathy for the affected victims. Neither jobs nor benefits will cure that.

K.

Jobs? What jobs? Low skill jobs are disappearing and those that remain pay less than a living wage.

Rising job skill requirements were a signature feature of the U.S. economy in the 20th century.

Technological change, shifts in the global geography of production, and large investments in human capital slowed or reversed the growth of jobs comprised of physical, routine tasks while prompting rapid growth in jobs requiring high levels of formal education and technical knowledge.

In 1900, agriculture and manufacturing alone employed two-
thirds of all workers, the great majority of them holding manual and routine jobs in field and factory. Much of the remaining workforce was engaged in similarly low-skill work in the Nation’s mines, shops, and offices.

As of 2000, about 38 percent of the U.S. workforce was employed in occupations requiring only low-level academic, technical, and reasoning skills; in rural America, 42.2 percent of all jobs were in such low-skill occupations, down from 44.4 percent in 1990.

source

The perception that manufacturing jobs
are highly paid disguises how many workers
are stuck at the bottom.

Today, more than 600,000 manufacturing workers
make just $9.60 per hour or less. More than 1.5 million
manufacturing workers—one out of every four—
make $11.91 or less.

In the largest segment of the manufacturing base—
automotive—wages have declined even faster.
>
Real wages for auto parts workers, who now account
for three of every four autoworker jobs, fell by nearly
14 percent from 2003 to 2013—three times faster than
for manufacturing as a whole, and nine times faster
than the decline for all occupations.
>
The growth in the number of auto parts jobs is
cause for concern, because the typical parts worker
makes one-third less than the typical auto assembly
worker, and puts downward pressure on the higher
assembly wages.



source

Remaining blind to the impact of outsourcing and technological revolutions on the plight of the poor will not solve a problem that shows promise of getting worse; nor will inventing some imagined lack of empathy help reduce the isolation of the disadvantaged into ghettos.

All of the job problems you mentioned affect white people too, but you either don't know or don't care about that.

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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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It's also been governed by the liberal failed policies for decades.

Actually, it is due to Neo-liberalism economic policy, which is not at all anything like FDR Liberalism but very much in line with small government, reduced regulations, free market corporatism. I would be surprised you did not know that neo-liberalism replaced Keynesian economics in the hearts of Republican politicos. Are you trying to bullshit me to believing that big government liberalism lead to the out sourcing of so much of our manufacturing jobs and that big government liberalism automated so much of the remaining factories? If that is your thesis, you should be embarrassed.

Lol, I love socialists. It's always someone else's fault. Their system has never worked and has always exasperated bad situations. But, it's always someone else's fault. Way to be exactly stereotype VML.

People destroy another's property because... reasons. People hack innocents to death because... reasons. But reason neither explains nor justifies their actions. It serves only to rationalize their pathological lack of empathy for the affected victims. Neither jobs nor benefits will cure that.

K.

Jobs? What jobs? Low skill jobs are disappearing and those that remain pay less than a living wage.

Rising job skill requirements were a signature feature of the U.S. economy in the 20th century.

Technological change, shifts in the global geography of production, and large investments in human capital slowed or reversed the growth of jobs comprised of physical, routine tasks while prompting rapid growth in jobs requiring high levels of formal education and technical knowledge.

In 1900, agriculture and manufacturing alone employed two-
thirds of all workers, the great majority of them holding manual and routine jobs in field and factory. Much of the remaining workforce was engaged in similarly low-skill work in the Nation’s mines, shops, and offices.

As of 2000, about 38 percent of the U.S. workforce was employed in occupations requiring only low-level academic, technical, and reasoning skills; in rural America, 42.2 percent of all jobs were in such low-skill occupations, down from 44.4 percent in 1990.

source

The perception that manufacturing jobs
are highly paid disguises how many workers
are stuck at the bottom.

Today, more than 600,000 manufacturing workers
make just $9.60 per hour or less. More than 1.5 million
manufacturing workers—one out of every four—
make $11.91 or less.

In the largest segment of the manufacturing base—
automotive—wages have declined even faster.
>
Real wages for auto parts workers, who now account
for three of every four autoworker jobs, fell by nearly
14 percent from 2003 to 2013—three times faster than
for manufacturing as a whole, and nine times faster
than the decline for all occupations.
>
The growth in the number of auto parts jobs is
cause for concern, because the typical parts worker
makes one-third less than the typical auto assembly
worker, and puts downward pressure on the higher
assembly wages.



source

Remaining blind to the impact of outsourcing and technological revolutions on the plight of the poor will not solve a problem that shows promise of getting worse; nor will inventing some imagined lack of empathy help reduce the isolation of the disadvantaged into ghettos.

All of the job problems you mentioned affect white people too, but you either don't know or don't care about that.

oh please bamad... they're covered under the "white male privilege" clause.... they only have those issues as much as anyone else when the gop is done using them in the elections.....

seriously, every study every done points out disproportionately people of color have those issues many times more than whites.... and u knew that before u even typed that line....

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

People destroy another's property because... reasons. People hack innocents to death because... reasons. But reason neither explains nor justifies their actions. It serves only to rationalize their pathological lack of empathy for the affected victims. Neither jobs nor benefits will cure that.

Remaining blind to the impact of outsourcing and technological revolutions on the plight of the poor will not solve a problem that shows promise of getting worse; nor will inventing some imagined lack of empathy help reduce the isolation of the disadvantaged into ghettos.

Ferchrissake, Vincent, read what it says and stop listening to your lamp-socket. Nobody is inventing a merely "imagined" lack of empathy, and nobody is remaining blind to anything except you.

K.

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They have the same problems but since they aren't given anyone else to blame it on they are force to deal with it. Blacks on the other hand have "white privilage" to fall back on, are constatly told that no matter how hard they work it won't do any good, and that their only hope is the for libs who run the plantation to give them stuff. White privilage is 21st century Americas version of the international Jewish consperacy.

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Let’s be honest here. None of us who are white knows what it is like to be black, jobless, and poorly educated in America. Maybe frustration trumps empathy.

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They have the same problems but since they aren't given anyone else to blame it on they are force to deal with it. Blacks on the other hand have "white privilage" to fall back on, are constatly told that no matter how hard they work it won't do any good, and that their only hope is the for libs who run the plantation to give them stuff. White privilage is 21st century Americas version of the international Jewish consperacy.

LOL! Big government Liberalism died with Bill Clinton's gutting of "welfare as we know it."

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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It's also been governed by the liberal failed policies for decades.

Actually, it is due to Neo-liberalism economic policy, which is not at all anything like FDR Liberalism but very much in line with small government, reduced regulations, free market corporatism. I would be surprised you did not know that neo-liberalism replaced Keynesian economics in the hearts of Republican politicos. Are you trying to bullshit me to believing that big government liberalism lead to the out sourcing of so much of our manufacturing jobs and that big government liberalism automated so much of the remaining factories? If that is your thesis, you should be embarrassed.

Lol, I love socialists. It's always someone else's fault. Their system has never worked and has always exasperated bad situations. But, it's always someone else's fault. Way to be exactly stereotype VML.

People destroy another's property because... reasons. People hack innocents to death because... reasons. But reason neither explains nor justifies their actions. It serves only to rationalize their pathological lack of empathy for the affected victims. Neither jobs nor benefits will cure that.

K.

Jobs? What jobs? Low skill jobs are disappearing and those that remain pay less than a living wage.

Rising job skill requirements were a signature feature of the U.S. economy in the 20th century.

Technological change, shifts in the global geography of production, and large investments in human capital slowed or reversed the growth of jobs comprised of physical, routine tasks while prompting rapid growth in jobs requiring high levels of formal education and technical knowledge.

In 1900, agriculture and manufacturing alone employed two-
thirds of all workers, the great majority of them holding manual and routine jobs in field and factory. Much of the remaining workforce was engaged in similarly low-skill work in the Nation’s mines, shops, and offices.

As of 2000, about 38 percent of the U.S. workforce was employed in occupations requiring only low-level academic, technical, and reasoning skills; in rural America, 42.2 percent of all jobs were in such low-skill occupations, down from 44.4 percent in 1990.

source

The perception that manufacturing jobs
are highly paid disguises how many workers
are stuck at the bottom.

Today, more than 600,000 manufacturing workers
make just $9.60 per hour or less. More than 1.5 million
manufacturing workers—one out of every four—
make $11.91 or less.

In the largest segment of the manufacturing base—
automotive—wages have declined even faster.
>
Real wages for auto parts workers, who now account
for three of every four autoworker jobs, fell by nearly
14 percent from 2003 to 2013—three times faster than
for manufacturing as a whole, and nine times faster
than the decline for all occupations.
>
The growth in the number of auto parts jobs is
cause for concern, because the typical parts worker
makes one-third less than the typical auto assembly
worker, and puts downward pressure on the higher
assembly wages.



source

Remaining blind to the impact of outsourcing and technological revolutions on the plight of the poor will not solve a problem that shows promise of getting worse; nor will inventing some imagined lack of empathy help reduce the isolation of the disadvantaged into ghettos.

All of the job problems you mentioned affect white people too, but you either don't know or don't care about that.

oh please bamad... they're covered under the "white male privilege" clause.... they only have those issues as much as anyone else when the gop is done using them in the elections.....

seriously, every study every done points out disproportionately people of color have those issues many times more than whites.... and u knew that before u even typed that line....

They have the same problems but since they aren't given anyone else to blame it on they are force to deal with it. Blacks on the other hand have "white privilage" to fall back on, are constatly told that no matter how hard they work it won't do any good, and that their only hope is the for libs who run the plantation to give them stuff. White privilage is 21st century Americas version of the international Jewish consperacy.