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Death in Dominants family - 8/20/2016 12:15:12 PM   
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Hi All,

Has anyone been through the death of their Dominant's Mom or Dad while in a D/s relationship as a sub? I am not in a 24/7 relationship, we are a daily online D/s with that one face to face together once or twice in a month. I'm afraid she is going to loose her most important family member (her mom) very soon. The last thing any sub wants to do is put stress on their Domme in a time like this. Should it be a time of being very quiet and not doing anything out of normal schedule and only offering comfort when she really wants? Between her business and Mom she has been super stressed and tired...things aren't the same as when we first began the relationship. I want her to know that I am willing to stick it through as long as it takes for her...

Advice, ideas, thoughts?

terry
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RE: Death in Dominants family - 8/20/2016 12:27:12 PM   
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Are you physically close enough to help? Do her laundry and grocery shopping while she's spending free time with her mom? Leave easy meals in the fridge so she doesn't need to cook?

Give her hugs and a shoulder to cry on?

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RE: Death in Dominants family - 8/20/2016 1:18:14 PM   
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Ask her, "how can I help?"

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RE: Death in Dominants family - 8/20/2016 1:44:50 PM   
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Thank you both. She had to go out West to take care of her mom...have asked, told she will beckon if needed. So I'm just trying to be consistent
in my schedule to her and not pester. Let her know daily I'm thinking and praying...
so I guess keep to the course and stay positive for her. Just hate the fact I really physically cant do something for her.

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RE: Death in Dominants family - 8/20/2016 1:50:13 PM   
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I lost my dad 5 years ago. I'm the s in an M/s relationship and the whole structure of the relationship fell apart while I was grieving. This was not a bad thing. Master supported me, listened to me, let me cry on him (endlessly!) and generally took care of me.
It doesn't matter what side of the kneel you are on, losing a parent can be devastating.
My suggestion would be to be very gentle with her. Maintain your schedule but don't make demands - she may not have the emotional bandwidth to cope with them. Make it clear you are there to support her, listen to her and comfort her. Be her friend first, her submissive second.

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RE: Death in Dominants family - 8/20/2016 9:55:43 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: HonorInSlavery

Hi All,

Has anyone been through the death of their Dominant's Mom or Dad while in a D/s relationship as a sub? I am not in a 24/7 relationship, we are a daily online D/s with that one face to face together once or twice in a month. I'm afraid she is going to loose her most important family member (her mom) very soon. The last thing any sub wants to do is put stress on their Domme in a time like this. Should it be a time of being very quiet and not doing anything out of normal schedule and only offering comfort when she really wants? Between her business and Mom she has been super stressed and tired...things aren't the same as when we first began the relationship. I want her to know that I am willing to stick it through as long as it takes for her...

Advice, ideas, thoughts?

terry


I lost my Dad and my very best friend I have ever had in the time I've been involved with my sub. The only advice I can give to you is to listen to them and let them know that you are there for whatever they need. Offer to lend an ear when needed and find something nice to do for them. For instance, the day my best friend died, my sub and my sister bought a ton of food from the store and when I got to my subs home, they put a challenge to me... create the food the you think you might like out of the ingredients. Like the show "Chopped". Frankly, they both know my love for food (I am a beast in the kitchen), and it was something that helped me deal with things as well as remember my friend. So, if you can find something thoughtful to do for them, do your best within your means to do so.

Also, never forget that a death is traumatic. Your partner may deal with the loss in some way that is unexpected to you. Try to be OK with this if it happens. Grief is a powerful thing and people deal with it differently. For me, I withdrew... but that is how I cope with trauma. I know I need time to heal and I take it. Might sound selfish, but I need to deal with my emotions over the loss.

One last thing, keep offering your support until you are asked not to. When my best friend died, (which was more traumatic than my Dad because my Dad was 78) people were all over me contacting me for about two weeks, and then everyone disappeared. Don't be one of those folks until you are told that they are OK and are coping.

I do hope this helps.

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RE: Death in Dominants family - 8/20/2016 10:55:25 PM   
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Like my friend, Gauge, this is a touchy subject for me, but here goes:

I met one of my current ladies, two months after my son's death. To be brutally honest: the first month I was a mess. I was drunk, more often than not and my nerves were raw. I'm not a violent guy, but a person, saying the wrong thing at the wrong time could set me off on a verbal assault.

Obviously, I wasn't looking to add anyone to my mess, at that time. After a month, I told myself I'd had enough of a pity party and I got busy living instead of dying.

Beth messaged me, about two weeks later. She was ... I'm trying to find the right word ... not "gung ho". She saw a guy she thought was attractive and just decided to send a message. Her approach was just right. I know that doesn't help much so, let me try to break it down.

We met for dinner (interestingly enough; at a place three hours' drive from where I lived and yet, I'd had two other first dates there, before) and, obviously, the "So ... what have you been doing with your life?" question came up. I decided that hiding what I was going through wasn't a good way to start a relationship so, I tried to get through the tale without tearing up (Fat chance of that, happening).

She never pushed for information and always seemed to ask a question about my son that would bring back fond memories (which also brought tears, but, honestly: they were a different kind of tears. They weren't the selfish "I'll-Never-See-Him-Again" tears. They were the "Yes-He's-Gone-But-Gawd-Did-We-Have-Some-Fun" tears).

She has never pushed. I don't think she's ever brought up Jaime's name in a conversation until after I have. I am not one to dwell, usually and I don't make every conversation about him.

I'll share one REALLY fucked up story:

06 or 07 JULY, 2014. The MLB All-Star Game. MLB decided to do a big production about returning vets. I sat in front of that damned idiot box and just started crying, uncontrollably. Michael doesn't usually do bawling.

She left me be until after I'd stopped long enough to calm down and get up and get myself a soda (something she genuinely enjoys doing for me). When I came back, she asked me what was wrong. I said I didn't want to talk about it.

The next day, I felt I owed her an answer and she got it. She didn't get all pissy, in the interim. She didn't get snooty. She waited until I was ready.

Everyone deals with death, differently and with different deaths, differently.

Last month, I went out to Queens to go pray with a cousin of mine who was on his death bed. Two days later, he died. I was "okay" with it. He was 95 years old.

Three days later, I went back out to NYC for Walter's services. I stayed in Brooklyn and found out that my best friend from High School had died, the same day. I was devastated.

Once again, Beth just knew exactly how to deal with it. She waited until I was ready to talk about it.

Now, the other side of the coin: I think she took her lead from me in all of this, in another way.

At that first dinner, she informed me that just a few days previous, they had moved her father into a long-term care facility because he had Alzheimer's and was, pretty much, at the end. I didn't push. I mentioned that I had a lost someone to Alzheimer's and I let her talk. I listened.

Her father died, five months later. The day after his favorite holiday. She was a mess and I let her do what she needed to do. Some of my "wants" that were, pretty much "musts" for me, went out the window while she dealt with what she needed to deal with. I never brought up her father unless she did.

I don't know that this has helped, but it damned well better have! LOL!!!



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RE: Death in Dominants family - 8/21/2016 12:26:06 AM   
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Ask her, "how can I help?"

That

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RE: Death in Dominants family - 8/21/2016 12:27:31 AM   
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Be her friend first, her submissive second.

And that too

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RE: Death in Dominants family - 8/21/2016 2:34:07 PM   
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Thank You Each One of You,

I appreciate the wisdom/ideas/etc. As hard as it is not to be able to help or physically give a hug, just gonna stay patient and wish her the best every day. If nothing else the consistency as you guys/gals have said will mean alot to her when she is ready to talk. This will sound silly, but for those who are the praying type, would you if you don't mind, send one up for me?

Thank you all for the encouragement.
terry

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RE: Death in Dominants family - 8/21/2016 2:48:25 PM   
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I should add, that I'm snuggling because this is my very first face to face relationship, and I really feel a connection. I have learned alot already from her, been doing a lot of learning on my own. Things were really clicking and we were to meet for a training collar, just before she let me know of the crisis...so I hope it works out. As pathetic as it may sound (LOL it isn't, it's what D/s is supposed to be), I want to serve her and officially be hers.

Thanks again,
terry

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RE: Death in Dominants family - 8/22/2016 2:55:58 PM   
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I was with my Master when both hs parents died (different times) i was just there for him shared his sorrow His parents were great. Was just ther for him if he wanted to talk or share memories if he did not want to talk i was just there supporting him was tough but we got through it. My mom passed away 6 years ago and i was a me was very close to my mm. He listend to me held me when i crird generaly was jyst there for me and we got through it.

Just be there for her in whatever way she needs you that is what she need right now support.

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RE: Death in Dominants family - 8/23/2016 2:18:35 PM   
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Thanks for the posts all of you...especially DaddyS.... Got a better hold of myself to just be patient...really helps me to let go and not worry by talking and journaling about it... Very thankful, had the ever so briefest text exchange this afternoon, so I'm glad.... Just got to tell her my caring, kept it simple, answered questions efficiently and didn't bring it up if she didn't want to talk. Things aren't getting better (for her mom) so just preparing to listen and say small words of encouragement....did a lot of thinking this morning outside of myself as to how much heartache and and anguish your friend goes thru....ive suffered very little loss, it's just on the horizon with my family. So thanks again all...figured best thing is just to be there and listen as you all have affirmed. Thankful I could do that for her today. Be well all of you!

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RE: Death in Dominants family - 9/9/2016 7:05:31 AM   
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I have never been in that kind of situation myself, but I have lost my mother, and a close friend recently lost his...

Don't be too quiet unless you ask if she needs space and the answer is yes. Being quiet otherwise might feel like abandoning her. You don't want to put pressure but you don't want to make her feel abandoned either
Maybe she,ll need you to take her mind off her loss, or maybe she'll need time alone. Who knows.

As mentioned above by others, each person reacts differently to loss and has different needs.

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RE: Death in Dominants family - 9/9/2016 10:10:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: HonorInSlavery
I should add, that I'm snuggling because this is my very first face to face relationship, and I really feel a connection. I have learned alot already from her, been doing a lot of learning on my own. Things were really clicking and we were to meet for a training collar, just before she let me know of the crisis...so I hope it works out. As pathetic as it may sound (LOL it isn't, it's what D/s is supposed to be), I want to serve her and officially be hers.


In addition to the above excellent advice, the important thing is, if you're sincere and serious about the relationship, to demonstrate your support. It's all well and good to say comforting things and be willing to talk, but what really counts in difficult times, IMH, is acts of support. It can be small things like sending cards and flowers, or a grand gesture like taking time off to present yourself to her needs -- her needs, not yours, this is important. If what she needs is for you to just be a friend, that's all you should be during the time.

Of course, don't impose yourself on her. If she says no, then don't do it.

Phrasing can also be very influential in these delicate times, so be wise with your words.

EG, "May I do X for you?" (positive, simple, requires only a yes-no response) instead of "I wish I could help" (negative, gives the impression you've already given up on helping)

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