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Hillary Clinton is another Colin Powell victim - 9/9/2016 2:38:08 PM   
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Suspicion falls on a high-level administration official. Colin Powell, who cultivates a saintlike image as a man above politics, knows that the accused is blameless. He nevertheless remains silent so as not to besmirch his own image. The accused twists in the wind and suffers personal and professional calamities, which largely could have been avoided had Powell spoken up earlier. The tale of Hillary Clinton’s emails? Actually, that was the Scooter Libby episode.

Libby, chief of staff to then-Vice President Dick Cheney, was falsely accused of leaking the name of CIA employee Valerie Plame. The real culprit was Richard Armitage, as his boss, Colin Powell, knew all too well. Powell and Armitage remained silent, but prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald (who also knew Armitage was the culprit) investigated Libby, whose poor memory led to a prosecution, conviction and later a partial pardon. Powell apparently felt no guilt in countenancing investigation of an innocent man. He learned no lesson, it seems.

Along comes Hillary Clinton, no computer whiz. New to the job, she asks Colin Powell about how he dealt with emails. In this case, it was a good thing she was using email. We now have that email exchange in which Powell tells her: “I didn’t have a BlackBerry. What I did do was have a personal computer that was hooked up to a private phone line (sounds ancient.) So I could communicate with a wide range of friends directly without it going through the State Department servers.”

That sounds not so different at all, especially to a non-techie, from having her own server at home, doesn’t it? Powell confided, “I even used it to do business with some foreign leaders and some of the senior folks in the Department on their personal email accounts. I did the same thing on the road in hotels.” He acknowledged warnings from intelligence services, but he “went about our business and stopped asking.” He also advised that BlackBerry records could become public. He counsels, “I got around it all by not saying much and not using systems that captured the data.”

You now understand how Clinton could have understood that, generally speaking, Powell did what she did. “Not using systems that captured the data” could very well have sounded to a layperson like “not using a server that captured the data on the State Department’s system.” She, like Powell, used insecure systems in hotels. Nevertheless, Clinton was painted as a liar, and Powell even indignantly claimed at one point that the Clinton team was always trying to “pin” the email problem on him.

It was Powell who was playing it too cute by half. He knew the advice he had given Clinton. He knew his own workarounds. Why didn’t he speak up, even if it meant casting himself in a poor light? Libby probably has wondered the same thing. Now Powell defensively writes in a prepared statement something about not being aware “at the time of any requirement for private, unclassified exchanges to be treated as official records.” He adds, “I stand by my decisions and I am fully accountable.”

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RE: Hillary Clinton is another Colin Powell victim - 9/9/2016 6:10:59 PM   
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Oh and here is a link to the email Powell sent back to Hills question dated two days after Obama took Office....
https://www.scribd.com/document/323302895/Colin-Powell-email-to-Hillary-Clinton#from_embed

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RE: Hillary Clinton is another Colin Powell victim - 9/9/2016 7:59:51 PM   
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Oh and here is a link to the email Powell sent back to Hills question dated two days after Obama took Office....
https://www.scribd.com/document/323302895/Colin-Powell-email-to-Hillary-Clinton#from_embed

Very revealing for sure. Just points out that there is one standard for repubs and another for dems and for political purposes only.

I always wondered too why Powell never said a fucking thing during the Libby affair. Now I know...slick. Like I've said all along and for almost my entire adult life, the repubs really know how...to play the game.

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RE: Hillary Clinton is another Colin Powell victim - 9/9/2016 8:08:08 PM   
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What makes it worse is that he denied it several days ago.
He doesnt remember!!!!!
or hes just another ....

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RE: Hillary Clinton is another Colin Powell victim - 9/10/2016 7:03:58 AM   
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That does put a new spin on Colin Powell. Clnton isn't a victim of Powell. This info doesn't exonerate her at all. It just makes him look bad, too.

Whether his actions were as bad as Hillary's or not, I can't say without more information, but it sure is leaning that way.

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RE: Hillary Clinton is another Colin Powell victim - 9/10/2016 9:02:17 AM   
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What information do you feel is missing?

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RE: Hillary Clinton is another Colin Powell victim - 9/10/2016 9:20:46 AM   
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What information do you feel is missing?


There may be contextual information that could lead to a vastly different interpretation.

Again, this wouldn't exonerate Hillary or make her actions any less bad. It only changes Colin Powell's legacy.


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RE: Hillary Clinton is another Colin Powell victim - 9/10/2016 2:12:20 PM   
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OK... let me spaz out in general here for a moment......you dont think it deserves an "investigation"? *yes Im joking, because, yanno, emails and not being "secure" suddenly doesnt matter...*

Or the fact that the email sent to powell to question how he handled things (yanno cos he has experience and its days after the inauguration, literally the first three days into her new job)
He denied it(lied) and has been proven wrong( by the actual email in its full context).
No Im not excusing what she did, Im not saying she wasnt stupid, Im not saying she didnt "lie"
It only changes his legacy???
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RE: Hillary Clinton is another Colin Powell victim - 9/10/2016 4:47:02 PM   
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OK... let me spaz out in general here for a moment......you dont think it deserves an "investigation"? *yes Im joking, because, yanno, emails and not being "secure" suddenly doesnt matter...*


Where did I say anything about it not deserving an investigation? Nowhere in my responses here do I even use the word "investigation;" neither in support nor opposition.

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Or the fact that the email sent to powell to question how he handled things (yanno cos he has experience and its days after the inauguration, literally the first three days into her new job)
He denied it(lied) and has been proven wrong( by the actual email in its full context).
No Im not excusing what she did, Im not saying she wasnt stupid, Im not saying she didnt "lie"
It only changes his legacy???
really?


What else would it change, Lucy?


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RE: Hillary Clinton is another Colin Powell victim - 9/19/2016 7:39:23 AM   
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"Retired Gen. Colin Powell believed that “Hillary’s mafia” was trying to drag him into the Clinton email scandal, newly leaked emails show."

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Powell, who served as secretary of state in the George W. Bush administration, also appears to have warned Clinton’s personal attorney, Cheryl Mills, about dragging him into the fiasco.

“Been having fun with emailgate,” Powell wrote to Beth Jones on March 9, 2015, days after news broke that Clinton used a personal email account and private server as secretary of state.

“Hillary’s Mafia keeps trying to suck me into it,” he continued.

It is unclear who Powell’s correspondent is, but a Beth Jones currently serves as assistant secretary for Near Eastern Affairs at the State Department.

“Is this fatal for her?” Jones asks.

“Not unless she keeps diggin deeper,” Powell responded.

The emails were published online by DC Leaks, a website that publishes documents hacked from military leaders and political figures. The Powell documents are password-protected, but The Daily Caller was granted access to view them.

The release spans the period between June 2014 and August of this year.

Clinton’s campaign and her surrogates have cited Powell’s use of a personal AOL account to downplay the former first lady’s email practices. But one major difference was that Powell did not host a private email server in his home, as Clinton did. He also used the State Department’s classified messaging system to send and receive classified information. Clinton was granted an account on that system but opted not to use it.

The federal government had also adopted stronger rules regarding the use of personal email accounts for work-related business.

The hacked emails show that Powell warned Mills, who had served as Clinton’s chief of staff, about continuing to link him to the scandal.

“You really don’t want to get me into this,” he wrote in a March 7, 2015 email. “I haven’t been asked nor said a word about HRC and won’t unless you all start it.”

Mills replied saying “agree and that message has been clearly shared.”

“so she will not nor will anyone she controls,” Mills continued, adding that “I can’t address folks who are beyond that so please ping or call me when you see anything that worries you.”

On March 17, Powell emailed Mills to flag comments from Clinton adviser James Carville.

“James is out there screaming away about me and Jeb doing the same thing and getting away with it. Not only is he factually wrong it ain’t working He is just throwing more logs on her fire. Not knowing if anybody is controlling him (unlikely) I don’t think it helps you all,” Powell wrote.

“Got it – not sure he will listen to me (he hasn’t in the past) buy I will reach out to him tomorrow when I land back in DC,” Mills replied.

Mills and Powell exchanged emails again last month, just after a news report surfaced that a pro-Clinton journalist named Joe Conason was set to publish a book asserting that Powell advised Clinton to use a personal account at a June 2009 dinner party.

Powell initially said only that he did not recall the dinner party. But he offered a more direct denial days later, telling reporters at a social event that the Clinton team was trying to “pin” her email failures on him.

“Spent last week with Cheryl Mills and the HRC team burying the email flap,” Powell wrote on Aug. 28.

“Sad thing is that HRC could have killed this two years ago by merely telling everyone honestly what she had done and not tie me into it. I told her staff three times not to try that gambit. I had to throw a mini tantrum at a Hampton’s party to get their attention. She keeps tripping into these ‘character’ minefields.”

In one exchange days before, on Aug. 24, Powell appears to suggest that he made a compromise of sorts with Mills regarding his public comments on the email issue.

“I told you we wouldn’t say any more,” Powell told Mills.

But he added that he was forced to continue discussing the issue after his assistant, Peggy Cifrino, became embroiled in an argument with Conason over his claim that Powell advised Clinton to use personal email at the 2009 dinner party.

In an Aug. 19 email, Powell told his correspondent that he tried to “warn [Clinton’s] people three times.”

“I will send an even tougher counterattack from a Trump media friend,” he added.


http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/13/colin-powell-believed-hillarys-mafia-was-trying-to-suck-him-into-email-scandal/

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RE: Hillary Clinton is another Colin Powell victim - 9/19/2016 8:01:04 AM   
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"Retired Gen. Colin Powell believed that “Hillary’s mafia” was trying to drag him into the Clinton email scandal, newly leaked emails show."

quote:

Powell, who served as secretary of state in the George W. Bush administration, also appears to have warned Clinton’s personal attorney, Cheryl Mills, about dragging him into the fiasco.

“Been having fun with emailgate,” Powell wrote to Beth Jones on March 9, 2015, days after news broke that Clinton used a personal email account and private server as secretary of state.

“Hillary’s Mafia keeps trying to suck me into it,” he continued.

It is unclear who Powell’s correspondent is, but a Beth Jones currently serves as assistant secretary for Near Eastern Affairs at the State Department.

“Is this fatal for her?” Jones asks.

“Not unless she keeps diggin deeper,” Powell responded.

The emails were published online by DC Leaks, a website that publishes documents hacked from military leaders and political figures. The Powell documents are password-protected, but The Daily Caller was granted access to view them.

The release spans the period between June 2014 and August of this year.

Clinton’s campaign and her surrogates have cited Powell’s use of a personal AOL account to downplay the former first lady’s email practices. But one major difference was that Powell did not host a private email server in his home, as Clinton did. He also used the State Department’s classified messaging system to send and receive classified information. Clinton was granted an account on that system but opted not to use it.

The federal government had also adopted stronger rules regarding the use of personal email accounts for work-related business.

The hacked emails show that Powell warned Mills, who had served as Clinton’s chief of staff, about continuing to link him to the scandal.

“You really don’t want to get me into this,” he wrote in a March 7, 2015 email. “I haven’t been asked nor said a word about HRC and won’t unless you all start it.”

Mills replied saying “agree and that message has been clearly shared.”

“so she will not nor will anyone she controls,” Mills continued, adding that “I can’t address folks who are beyond that so please ping or call me when you see anything that worries you.”

On March 17, Powell emailed Mills to flag comments from Clinton adviser James Carville.

“James is out there screaming away about me and Jeb doing the same thing and getting away with it. Not only is he factually wrong it ain’t working He is just throwing more logs on her fire. Not knowing if anybody is controlling him (unlikely) I don’t think it helps you all,” Powell wrote.

“Got it – not sure he will listen to me (he hasn’t in the past) buy I will reach out to him tomorrow when I land back in DC,” Mills replied.

Mills and Powell exchanged emails again last month, just after a news report surfaced that a pro-Clinton journalist named Joe Conason was set to publish a book asserting that Powell advised Clinton to use a personal account at a June 2009 dinner party.

Powell initially said only that he did not recall the dinner party. But he offered a more direct denial days later, telling reporters at a social event that the Clinton team was trying to “pin” her email failures on him.

“Spent last week with Cheryl Mills and the HRC team burying the email flap,” Powell wrote on Aug. 28.

“Sad thing is that HRC could have killed this two years ago by merely telling everyone honestly what she had done and not tie me into it. I told her staff three times not to try that gambit. I had to throw a mini tantrum at a Hampton’s party to get their attention. She keeps tripping into these ‘character’ minefields.”

In one exchange days before, on Aug. 24, Powell appears to suggest that he made a compromise of sorts with Mills regarding his public comments on the email issue.

“I told you we wouldn’t say any more,” Powell told Mills.

But he added that he was forced to continue discussing the issue after his assistant, Peggy Cifrino, became embroiled in an argument with Conason over his claim that Powell advised Clinton to use personal email at the 2009 dinner party.

In an Aug. 19 email, Powell told his correspondent that he tried to “warn [Clinton’s] people three times.”

“I will send an even tougher counterattack from a Trump media friend,” he added.


http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/13/colin-powell-believed-hillarys-mafia-was-trying-to-suck-him-into-email-scandal/


It is unfortunate but none of this makes Powell any less culpable and did say that even on the road, he used his own server which to me is as damning as anything they have found on HRC. Plus add in the fact that laws were conveniently changed after Powell left office.

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RE: Hillary Clinton is another Colin Powell victim - 9/19/2016 8:14:30 AM   
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"Retired Gen. Colin Powell believed that “Hillary’s mafia” was trying to drag him into the Clinton email scandal, newly leaked emails show."

I gotta ask comrade bounty, just which lies did bill's wife tell?
How, specifically, did those lies compromise national security?
Is it all politicians who lie that you despise or just the ones that do not belong to your party affiliation?

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RE: Hillary Clinton is another Colin Powell victim - 9/19/2016 9:57:14 AM   
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Clinton’s campaign and her surrogates have cited Powell’s use of a personal AOL account to downplay the former first lady’s email practices. But one major difference was that Powell did not host a private email server in his home, as Clinton did. He also used the State Department’s classified messaging system to send and receive classified information. Clinton was granted an account on that system but opted not to use it.


“James is out there screaming away about me and Jeb doing the same thing and getting away with it. Not only is he factually wrong it ain’t working He is just throwing more logs on her fire. Not knowing if anybody is controlling him (unlikely) I don’t think it helps you all,” Powell wrote.



http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/13/colin-powell-believed-hillarys-mafia-was-trying-to-suck-him-into-email-scandal/


It is unfortunate but none of this makes Powell any less culpable and did say that even on the road, he used his own server which to me is as damning as anything they have found on HRC. Plus add in the fact that laws were conveniently changed after Powell left office.


"Powell in leaked email: 'I didn't tell Hillary to have a private server at home'"

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Former Secretary of State Colin Powell vented to his associates earlier this year about Hillary Clinton’s attempts to rope him into her defense of her email practices, according to alleged leaked messages reviewed by POLITICO late Tuesday.

“I didn't tell Hillary to have a private server at home, connected to the Clinton Foundation, two contractors, took away 60,000 emails, had her own domain,” Powell said in one Feb. 4 email to former Reagan White House chief of staff Kenneth Duberstein, in the latest cache of hacked communications among top Washington insiders to emerge in the heat of this year’s presidential campaign.

In a separate email that day to Condoleezza Rice, who succeeded him as George W. Bush’s secretary of state, Powell wrote: “Been on the phone and email all afternoon. Hillary and Elijah Cummings have popped off.”

Two days later, Rice wrote back, “I don't think Hillary's — ‘everyone did it,’ is flying.”

On another occasion, Powell complained in an email to Lawrence Wilkerson, his former chief of staff.

"HRC and her mishandling of this has really given her a major problem I do not wish to get involved in, despite the best efforts of her team to drag me in," Powell wrote on Sept. 7, 2015...

Clinton’s repeated attempts to invoke Powell’s track record at the State Department has proven a persistent source of irritation during the controversy over her use of a personal email server while she was secretary.

Cummings, the top Democrat on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, had issued a statement on Feb. 4 defending Clinton’s private email setup by pointing to Powell and Rice’s use of personal email accounts — where, he said, they “received classified national security information.”

The revelation about Powell and Rice’s email accounts came in a memo from the State Department inspector general to Patrick Kennedy, the department’s under secretary for management.

“I warned them three days ago to be careful with the memo, it was political dynamite,” Powell wrote in the email to Rice. “So the IG of the [intelligence community] gets it and immediately ships it to the Hill and from there to the media.”

Rice also said that the “Wall Street Journal had an excellent editorial this morning,” presumably referring to one published online the night before under the headline “Clinton’s False Email Equivalence.” The subtitle of the editorial was, “Hillary tries to wrap Powell and Rice into her email security breach.”

The Powell emails that Cummings highlighted in his Clinton defense were not classified at the time that Powell received them. The department upgraded them as it reviewed all former secretaries’ personal email histories in response to the Clinton controversy.

In an email to Duberstein, Powell complained about the State Department IG memo mislabeling the messages.

Stupid State Department dragged me in and I had to take care of myself,” he wrote. “I warned them. Don't say these unclassified messages are classified or should have been classified.”

On Feb. 17, perhaps hoping to show Powell that the department was making this clear, Kennedy forwarded Powell a transcript of State Department spokesman John Kirby’s explanation of the classification upgrade. “It’s not unusual to upgrade a document following a classification review,” Kirby had told reporters on Feb. 5.

Months later, Powell mocked the campaign’s efforts to use him as a precedent for Clinton’s behavior.

“HRC campaign continues to say u did it too,” Duberstein wrote to Powell on May 25.

“They dig their hole deeper,” Powell responded. “A number of columns have shot down the comparison.”



http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/colin-powell-clinton-emails-228135


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RE: Hillary Clinton is another Colin Powell victim - 9/19/2016 10:15:41 AM   
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"Powell in leaked email: 'I didn't tell Hillary to have a private server at home'"

That's strange, because there's other leaked emails saying that he did.

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RE: Hillary Clinton is another Colin Powell victim - 9/19/2016 11:38:56 AM   
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It is unfortunate but none of this makes Powell any less culpable and did say that even on the road, he used his own server which to me is as damning as anything they have found on HRC. Plus add in the fact that laws were conveniently changed after Powell left office.


What laws were changed after Powell left office, and why?


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RE: Hillary Clinton is another Colin Powell victim - 9/19/2016 1:35:07 PM   
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computer security changes all the time in the govmt regarding emails and their useage. change in technology.
Blackberrys to Iphones, etc,
A change from one party in pwoer to another, changes in security protocols change all the time as problems come up and new progs are put into place.?


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RE: Hillary Clinton is another Colin Powell victim - 9/19/2016 9:03:55 PM   
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It is unfortunate but none of this makes Powell any less culpable and did say that even on the road, he used his own server which to me is as damning as anything they have found on HRC. Plus add in the fact that laws were conveniently changed after Powell left office.


What laws were changed after Powell left office, and why?


In fact, two years after Clinton resigned as SoS:

Under federal law, however, letters and emails written and received by federal officials, such as the secretary of state, are considered government records and are supposed to be retained so that congressional committees, historians and members of the news media can find them.

The article doesn't say which federal regulation, though. Why? Perhaps because the federal regulations went into effect in late November, 2014 when President Obama signed H.R. 1233, modernizing the Federal Records Act of 1950 to include electronic communications. It was signed two years after Clinton stepped down.

(Before the current regulations went into effect, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, who served from 2001 to 2005, used personal email to communicate with American officials and ambassadors and foreign leaders)

HERE

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RE: Hillary Clinton is another Colin Powell victim - 9/20/2016 4:59:57 AM   
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It is unfortunate but none of this makes Powell any less culpable and did say that even on the road, he used his own server which to me is as damning as anything they have found on HRC. Plus add in the fact that laws were conveniently changed after Powell left office.

What laws were changed after Powell left office, and why?

In fact, two years after Clinton resigned as SoS:
Under federal law, however, letters and emails written and received by federal officials, such as the secretary of state, are considered government records and are supposed to be retained so that congressional committees, historians and members of the news media can find them.


Seriously? You claimed that laws were "conveniently changed" after Powell left office, but, when asked about it, you link to changes made after Clinton left?!?

What changes in the laws regarding official government communication were changed after Powell left office?

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The article doesn't say which federal regulation, though. Why? Perhaps because the federal regulations went into effect in late November, 2014 when President Obama signed H.R. 1233, modernizing the Federal Records Act of 1950 to include electronic communications. It was signed two years after Clinton stepped down.
(Before the current regulations went into effect, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, who served from 2001 to 2005, used personal email to communicate with American officials and ambassadors and foreign leaders)
HERE


Why did he use personal email to communicate? Are you really going to tell me that there haven't been great strides in cybersecurity (including a heightened awareness for the need) between 2005 and 2009?

Were the aforementioned "current regulations" in effect for SoS Clinton? If not, then she shouldn't be held accountable to them. If yes, then it doesn't matter if Powell didn't follow them or not, since they weren't in effect when he was SoS. How did SoS Rice communicate? Why isn't her name being brought up?


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RE: Hillary Clinton is another Colin Powell victim - 9/20/2016 5:25:37 AM   
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Now, the anti-Christ and her supporters are resorting to: "Blame the nearest black man".

I wonder how that egregious cunt sleeps at night.



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RE: Hillary Clinton is another Colin Powell victim - 9/20/2016 5:34:12 AM   
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the same way you do...

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