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SirsPiglet -> Question about knife / needle play (9/13/2016 7:09:40 PM)

My Sir has recently, as in tonight, brought up the subject of knife/needle play. This has always been one of my two hard limits; mainly because I feel that I need to have complete trust of a Dom/Sir before I consider putting myself in that situation. I emplicitly trust my Sir and have agreed to test that water when We are together next.

My question is - how have other subs dealt with a firm limit being tested, mentally, emotionally, and physically? Had anyone else had experience with this comfortably bridged the gap between hard no and yes.



OsideGirl -> RE: Question about knife / needle play (9/13/2016 7:22:36 PM)

My hard limits don't ever get tested. They're a hard limit because I find them morally wrong or they would do damage to me. A guy that would try to push those would be gone.

That said, I have a list of things that are more flexible. My soft limits. All of these are based on comfort levels and trust. Because M has repeatedly proven that he won't harm me and has earned a high level of trust, I have done things with him that I have never done with anyone else.

But, I'll also point out that he has never pushed me to do these things. He either waited for me or casually asked. If I said that I couldn't do it, he respected that answer.



DesFIP -> RE: Question about knife / needle play (9/13/2016 7:42:49 PM)

So how has he shown you that he won't injure you doing this? Has he been attending workshops? Taking lessons from an expert?

What kind of first aid knowledge does he have if something does go wrong?

I'd feel a lot safer considering changing my attitude toward an activity if someone went out of their way to show me how competent they are.



Greatlilbabygirl -> RE: Question about knife / needle play (9/13/2016 8:03:17 PM)

Good luck. Limit pushing can make or break a dynamic. Have you given any thought to if things go wrong? It's an important question you need to ask and consider



littleclip -> RE: Question about knife / needle play (9/13/2016 8:32:22 PM)

i had needles as a hard limit, as a nurse i was always taught needle sticks are bad lots of extra work so only based on a phobia. my former owner realy wanted to do needle play so i tried acupuncture needles as they are solid not hollow. it went good i enjoyed the play. we went to needle classes and established safety practices and tried small needles first and then to larger and multiple ones. i love needle play now. the knife play came with trust even did a cutting on my chest it was wonderful and when she sucked the blood from my cut i went to space from that. so discuss the limits and why they are a limit the reasons and why they want to try them.



Gauge -> RE: Question about knife / needle play (9/13/2016 9:57:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SirsPiglet

My Sir has recently, as in tonight, brought up the subject of knife/needle play. This has always been one of my two hard limits; mainly because I feel that I need to have complete trust of a Dom/Sir before I consider putting myself in that situation. I emplicitly trust my Sir and have agreed to test that water when We are together next.



So, based on what you wrote, the needle/knife play was not a hard limit, it was only something you were willing to try with someone you trusted to do so.
To me, a hard limit is not to be crossed, something that is a deal breaker. What you presented here is what I would refer to a soft limit, something that is a limit, but, with the right person, can be pushed.

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My question is - how have other subs dealt with a firm limit being tested, mentally, emotionally, and physically? Had anyone else had experience with this comfortably bridged the gap between hard no and yes.


I would never even discuss pushing a hard limit. That shit to me is taboo, so there is never a hard 'yes' or no' involved... to me it is a don't even go there. Everything else, to me, is able to be challenged. Just a dominant's point of view.




MistressAubreee -> RE: Question about knife / needle play (9/13/2016 11:19:42 PM)

If it's a hard limit, don't do it. End of story. This is why they're called hard limits. If someone attempts to "insist" on a hard limit, they are NOT worth your time or energy. Find someone else, because this is a sign of clear disrespect for your personal boundaries. A good friend of mine (they're a pet/pony) ended up participating in a soft-limit fetish and it basically destroyed her self esteem, cause she got wrapped up in the whirlwind and couldn't really get "out" of it until the damage had already been done to her.



YourSincereSlave -> RE: Question about knife / needle play (9/14/2016 9:29:37 AM)

People evolve and today's hard limit can be tomorrow's soft limit.
I have no experience in that myself, but I figure this is no different than trying anything for the first time that you didn't want to try ever before.
Safe Words are probably of the utmost importance during limit testing, though.



SirsPiglet -> RE: Question about knife / needle play (9/14/2016 9:44:06 AM)

Thanks for all the answers. I should clarify that by "hard limit" I meant it as more of as when someone I am going to casually play with asks me for my limits, knife/needle play is always listed. I have be owned by my Sir for going on four years and we were friends before that. My Sir is well aware what I consider limits that will never be touched, and several answers were right; this would be considered a soft limit for my Sir only.



OsideGirl -> RE: Question about knife / needle play (9/14/2016 10:35:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: YourSincereSlave

People evolve and today's hard limit can be tomorrow's soft limit.


Nope - never. My hard limits are a hard limit for a reason.



littleone35 -> RE: Question about knife / needle play (9/14/2016 3:50:07 PM)

My hard limots are just that. It helps that my hard limits are not somethings Master is interested in trying. My soft limits are another thing. He would never push them without talking to me first but, i expect thoise to be pushed. We did something once i had as a soft limit ande we talked about it now it is something i like .

I trust Master witth all my heart, but there are some things i will not or cannot do. Even thought Master has my whole heart tand trust. If he roke my hard lumits he would not be my Master aymore cause he broke that trust. We have been together 10+ years testing my hard limits has never come up.

Matt's litlteone



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