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RE: If you're over 55, do you remember being taught this? - 9/22/2016 8:30:07 PM

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You just said that cops shouldn't have the same protections to a fair trial as other people.

You are a lying punkassmotherfucker. You are the only one who has said that.

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RE: If you're over 55, do you remember being taught this? - 9/22/2016 8:44:36 PM

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Simply put...the public will see what it wants to see.

That certainly applies to you. Why did you not show the cops sicking the attack dogs on the mlk protest?

As it does to you. You see what ISN'T there. As I'm sure the majority of the rioters would...in their case, a book.

I can't show what's not in the picture. And if you can find an instance where I've ever said the police turning the dogs and hoses on those peaceful protestors was o.k., bring it forth. Otherwise, you're just running your mouth thinking you're a wit.

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RE: If you're over 55, do you remember being taught this? - 9/22/2016 8:47:41 PM

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Simply put...the public will see what it wants to see.

That certainly applies to you. Why did you not show the cops sicking the attack dogs on the mlk protest?

As it does to you. You see what ISN'T there. As I'm sure the majority of the rioters would...in their case, a book.

I can't show what's not in the picture. And if you can find an instance where I've ever said the police turning the dogs and hoses on those peaceful protestors was o.k., bring it forth. Otherwise, you're just running your mouth thinking you're a wit.

Earlier in this thread didn't you agree that there was no excuse for the Tulsa shooting?

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RE: If you're over 55, do you remember being taught this? - 9/22/2016 8:49:20 PM

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So you are going to search through my history and show where I have said I am a victim?

No. But a few examples of the victimization undercurrent in your posts do come to mind. We've all heard endlessly about the evildoers who lurk every few feet any time you leave the house. And all the mean people who call you racist, even though you had a black wife. And the poor Southerners wrongly accused of building their economy on slavery and waging war against the U.S. to maintain that"peculiar institution."

Even in the exchange we just had, you shifted automatically into victim mode. What could have been a reasonable discussion over what information to share when and how balance the rights of LEOs with those of the people they serve became a song and dance about how I was "proclaiming" cops to be second-hand citizens.

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Do you remember the shooting in MD by an AF NCO of a man who pushed into his house at 2am, demanded that the NCO's wife leave with him and attacked the NCO and you insisted that the only reason he shot the thug was because he was black?

No, I don't. And frankly, I don't trust your characterization of other posters' statements. If you have a link to my actual words, I'll look at them.

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You may not be anti cop but you sure are anti white.

LOL! That'll be fun to share with my white family and friends.

Here too, you grasp at victimhood. The person you disagree with can't simply be mistaken or have a different perspective. No, he must be an "antiwhite" oppressor stomping all over you.

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RE: If you're over 55, do you remember being taught this? - 9/22/2016 8:52:23 PM

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So you are going to search through my history and show where I have said I am a victim?

No. But a few examples of the victimization undercurrent in your posts do come to mind. We've all heard endlessly about the evildoers who lurk every few feet any time you leave the house. And all the mean people who call you racist, even though you had a black wife. And the poor Southerners wrongly accused of building their economy on slavery and waging war against the U.S. to maintain that"peculiar institution."

Even in the exchange we just had, you shifted automatically into victim mode. What could have been a reasonable discussion over what information to share when and how balance the rights of LEOs with those of the people they serve became a song and dance about how I was "proclaiming" cops to be second-hand citizens.

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Do you remember the shooting in MD by an AF NCO of a man who pushed into his house at 2am, demanded that the NCO's wife leave with him and attacked the NCO and you insisted that the only reason he shot the thug was because he was black?

No, I don't. And frankly, I don't trust your characterization of other posters' statements. If you have a link to my actual words, I'll look at them.

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You may not be anti cop but you sure are anti white.

LOL! That'll be fun to share with my white family and friends.

Here too, you grasp at victimhood. The person you disagree with can't simply be mistaken or have a different perspective. No, he must be an "antiwhite" oppressor stomping all over you.

You didn't read all of my last post to you did you.
And the fact that I live in a bad neighborhood doesn't mean I feel like a victim. The good guys are taking back my neighborhood.

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RE: If you're over 55, do you remember being taught this? - 9/22/2016 9:05:03 PM

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"I am also of Irish descent & always grew up being proud of my heritage. I didn't learn any of these facts until I took a history class in college. I wanted to crawl under the table when I first heard it. Now, I've come to surmise that it's not necessarily taught because the Irish moved on & by not dwelling on past atrocities, we've been able to raise our status in the world. Wouldn't it be awesome if all races were just proud & focused on the bright future & not the dark past?".

http://settingrecordstraight.blogspot.com/2015/03/irish-forgotten-white-slaves.html?m=1

Did you notice who the author was?
Did you fact check this or is this just another attempt by you to mitigate your "white guilt"? If it is not trying to mitigate your "white guilt" then why post it?

I don't have any "white guilt". I leave that to those who've got something to feel guilty about. In the same manner, I don't blame all blacks for destroying other people's property or stealing other people's property. I blame it on those guilty of it. In the same manner, I don't believe all Democratic politicians would believe it was the 4 Year old girl who instigated her own rape. I blame it on the P.O.S. Democrat who did it.

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RE: If you're over 55, do you remember being taught this? - 9/22/2016 9:24:22 PM

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I don't have any "white guilt".

You seem to spend a lot of time denying what you claim you do not have...and very little time answering the questions I asked you.

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RE: If you're over 55, do you remember being taught this? - 9/22/2016 9:27:27 PM

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I don't believe all Democratic politicians would believe it was the 4 Year old girl who instigated her own rape. I blame it on the P.O.S. Democrat who did it.

It is quite telling you wish to pick a scumbag of the party you hate to point out your evenhanbdedness.

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RE: If you're over 55, do you remember being taught this? - 9/23/2016 2:51:44 AM

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Really? You want to show a pic of a guy linking arms (who was assassinated for his protests) as a good thing, but bashing shit up isnt?
Very good Lucy, peaceful protest good, violence bad. Gotta say I am impressed you got that so quickly

so do you want all protesters to die? or is it just that you think you can decide what protesting should be like(cos it worked SO well for MLK?)
Got that straight from your own twisted little mind because he never said or implied that. So tell us Lucy, why do you want all the protesters to die?

Thats a bunch of rhetorical questions, Im not interested in your attempt to tell me what it "really" means.

Full of sarcasm
Yep, just like me, not here to add anything, just being a snarky bitch.

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RE: If you're over 55, do you remember being taught this? - 9/23/2016 2:54:45 AM

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Should all evidence in cases not involving a cop be released to the public, making an unbiased jury an absolute impossibility?

Probably not.

In instances of potential police misconduct, however, I could see the argument that the public has the right--perhaps even the responsibility--to know how public servants, acting on their behalf, are (mis)using the special powers allowed to them in their role as officers. Transparency seems particularly important in places where there's been a record of papering over police overreach, leading to legitimate community concerns about whether citizens can trust law enforcement.

I agree with this but I think they should wait until the incident has been investigated before they do.

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RE: If you're over 55, do you remember being taught this? - 9/23/2016 5:11:52 AM

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Simply put...the public will see what it wants to see.

That certainly applies to you. Why did you not show the cops sicking the attack dogs on the mlk protest?

As it does to you. You see what ISN'T there. As I'm sure the majority of the rioters would...in their case, a book.

Now you are claiming that the cops did not sic attack dogs on peacful protestors? Denying history seems to be your long suit.

I can't show what's not in the picture.

What you mean is you won't show what is counterproductive to your arguement.

And if you can find an instance where I've ever said the police turning the dogs and hoses on those peaceful protestors was o.k., bring it forth. Otherwise, you're just running your mouth thinking you're a wit.

So far you have failed to acknowledge that it hapened which would seem to be prima facia evidence that you would approve. Why have you not posted your opposition to that sort of police racist behaviour?
Your silence on this issue is deafining.
When the protestors are armed the cops seem to lack the balls to confront them. On the other hand we have abundant evidence of gutless cops attacking unarmed peacful prostetors which by your lack of approbation lends your support to those actions.

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RE: If you're over 55, do you remember being taught this? - 9/23/2016 8:03:54 AM

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So you are going to search through my history and show where I have said I am a victim?

No. But a few examples of the victimization undercurrent in your posts do come to mind. We've all heard endlessly about the evildoers who lurk every few feet any time you leave the house. And all the mean people who call you racist, even though you had a black wife. And the poor Southerners wrongly accused of building their economy on slavery and waging war against the U.S. to maintain that"peculiar institution."

Even in the exchange we just had, you shifted automatically into victim mode. What could have been a reasonable discussion over what information to share when and how balance the rights of LEOs with those of the people they serve became a song and dance about how I was "proclaiming" cops to be second-hand citizens.

quote:

Do you remember the shooting in MD by an AF NCO of a man who pushed into his house at 2am, demanded that the NCO's wife leave with him and attacked the NCO and you insisted that the only reason he shot the thug was because he was black?

No, I don't. And frankly, I don't trust your characterization of other posters' statements. If you have a link to my actual words, I'll look at them.

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You may not be anti cop but you sure are anti white.

LOL! That'll be fun to share with my white family and friends.

Here too, you grasp at victimhood. The person you disagree with can't simply be mistaken or have a different perspective. No, he must be an "antiwhite" oppressor stomping all over you.

Well said.

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RE: If you're over 55, do you remember being taught this? - 9/23/2016 8:33:17 AM

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CreativeDominant as many have pointed out that is urban legend. When I come across articles like that I usually look up a few other sources.

Heritage - I think that is an American fascination; as they lack history and time. For their land is a mere 400 years olde, or is it 500 - that one I think, and it is bereft of history before.

I describe myself as an (ea)Urthling, and a Scottish one at that - do I dislike the English - that is more complex to answer. And I have dated a few English wenches in my life, before I sold them for cake money, one welsh one too – thing is I may hate the welsh more than the English - I cannot decide which of those two are the most useless meekest (by no means all)

Both ,my parents were Scottish, 4 of my grandparents were born in Scotland and before them I am not certain My mum’s nee is Irish, and my dad’s English

Ireland is difficult for me to explain. Are there any Irish on here to give a brief History of time?

There is another Scottish one on here - if you would like to do that for Scotland then please do

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RE: If you're over 55, do you remember being taught this? - 9/23/2016 9:16:13 AM

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I don't have any "white guilt".

You seem to spend a lot of time denying what you claim you do not have...and very little time answering the questions I asked you.

See? There you go lying again. The only time I deny it is when I'm told I have it, such as when you do so in your posts.

As for the questions you ask and I don't answer...I used to spend a lot of time answering your questions and in return, asking questions. When I noticed that you never answered and instead, spent a lot of time twisting my...and others'...answers, I quit. There are others on here that disagree with me and I with them but at least they engage. Those folks are who'll I'll engage with.

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RE: If you're over 55, do you remember being taught this? - 9/23/2016 9:47:10 AM

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Should all evidence in cases not involving a cop be released to the public, making an unbiased jury an absolute impossibility?

Probably not.

In instances of potential police misconduct, however, I could see the argument that the public has the right--perhaps even the responsibility--to know how public servants, acting on their behalf, are (mis)using the special powers allowed to them in their role as officers. Transparency seems particularly important in places where there's been a record of papering over police overreach, leading to legitimate community concerns about whether citizens can trust law enforcement.

I agree with this but I think they should wait until the incident has been investigated before they do.

That was my whole point releasing them now would violate the cops civil rights.

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RE: If you're over 55, do you remember being taught this? - 9/23/2016 9:47:46 AM

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I don't have any "white guilt".

You seem to spend a lot of time denying what you claim you do not have...and very little time answering the questions I asked you.

See? There you go lying again. The only time I deny it is when I'm told I have it, such as when you do so in your posts.

You are the one who started this pity party. To exculpate your soul of any white guilt since "your ancestors" suffered more egregiously than the blacks....that since "your tribe" has moved on why can't "they"

As for the questions you ask and I don't answer...I used to spend a lot of time answering your questions and in return, asking questions. When I noticed that you never answered and instead, spent a lot of time twisting my...and others'...answers, I quit.

To those of us with both a three digit iq and a pulse that is called failure to substantiate your position.

There are others on here that disagree with me and I with them but at least they engage. Those folks are who'll I'll engage with.

Engaging with bamma and comrade bounty????
How droll That is not called engagement it is called sharing the same pair of knee pads.

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RE: If you're over 55, do you remember being taught this? - 9/23/2016 9:50:19 AM

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You expect me to search through your history?

No. I expected you to whine and deflect from your inability to substantiate my "bias."

Thanks for not letting me down.

Sorry, for some reason I had your history as that of cloudboy.
Normally you are reasonable, though I do not agree with you that often.
I do still believe that your suggestion would relegate cops to 2nd class citizen status.
As people, and individuals they deserve the same protections everyone else has.

I posted this before but you may have missed it.
Your responding posts indicated that you may have been typing while I was updating.

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RE: If you're over 55, do you remember being taught this? - 9/23/2016 11:34:31 AM

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I don't have any "white guilt".

You seem to spend a lot of time denying what you claim you do not have...and very little time answering the questions I asked you.

See? There you go lying again. The only time I deny it is when I'm told I have it, such as when you do so in your posts.

You are the one who started this pity party. To exculpate your soul of any white guilt since "your ancestors" suffered more egregiously than the blacks....that since "your tribe" has moved on why can't "they"

As for the questions you ask and I don't answer...I used to spend a lot of time answering your questions and in return, asking questions. When I noticed that you never answered and instead, spent a lot of time twisting my...and others'...answers, I quit.

To those of us with both a three digit iq and a pulse that is called failure to substantiate your position.

There are others on here that disagree with me and I with them but at least they engage. Those folks are who'll I'll engage with.

Engaging with bamma and comrade bounty????
How droll That is not called engagement it is called sharing the same pair of knee pads.

You're a funny little man. I didn't start a pity party. I brought something to the board that I find interesting since all I was taught in school way back when was about black slavery. If you'd have used that three digit IQ you swear you have, you might have been able to figure it out.
The fact that I'm white doesn't make me part of any tribe with all that the word 'tribe' represents. The KKK is a tribe, the White Aryan Party is a tribe, the Democratic and Republican parties are tribes. The first two are reprehensible, the last two act more and more like idiots. I am me.

As for failure to substantiate my position? When has anyone...other than those you agree with from the start...been able to do that with you? I can see when fault lies even with those that I wish it didn't. You can't and your silence when it comes to those matters as it pertains to your position is much more indicative of your I.Q. than mine.

Yes, there are times when I agree with them...and disagree...and past posts reflect that. How about you bring forth any post where you disagreed with Lucy? Talk about knee pads...

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RE: If you're over 55, do you remember being taught this? - 9/23/2016 1:17:14 PM

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Really? You want to show a pic of a guy linking arms (who was assassinated for his protests) as a good thing, but bashing shit up isnt?
Very good Lucy, peaceful protest good, violence bad. Gotta say I am impressed you got that so quickly

so do you want all protesters to die? or is it just that you think you can decide what protesting should be like(cos it worked SO well for MLK?)
Got that straight from your own twisted little mind because he never said or implied that. So tell us Lucy, why do you want all the protesters to die?

Thats a bunch of rhetorical questions, Im not interested in your attempt to tell me what it "really" means.

Full of sarcasm
Yep, just like me, not here to add anything, just being a snarky bitch.

THB for someone who "claims" to be "sarky" who has never started her own topic in P&R, and rarely does anything but disagree or agree with a post and never adds anything to a topic, you are nothing like me.

I pointed out that it was rhetorical, and sarcastic. Apart from the fact it is true or not that MLK was assassinated?
I know, how about you go around jumping on everyone that puts words in someones mouth, in just this topic, then I will take you seriously. you have enough to keep yourself busy for a month at least.
OR you can start with post 59
where CD said

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I know it would work better for your narrative above if King had been killed by an out of control cop...but he wasn't.

I never said or implied either. And wouldnt. I can see why you would accept this as gospel tho.

Should I quote more? like Bama, who is lying blatantly about DC and his anti white hatred. which is obviously bullshit, but noooooooo you come to shit on my head, for something I stated was rhetorical.

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RE: If you're over 55, do you remember being taught this? - 9/23/2016 1:26:22 PM

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Yes, there are times when I agree with them...and disagree...and past posts reflect that. How about you bring forth any post where you disagreed with Lucy? Talk about knee pads...

Thompson and I have disagreed on many things,
no knee pads needed

now about putting words into peoples mouths...

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If they're rioting, they're not protesting. King seemed to know that...pity you and the rioters don't. Of course, King was a man who wasn't interested in free, stolen stuff...he was interested in change. I know it would work better for your narrative above if King had been killed by an out of control cop...but he wasn't.

Show me one place where I said I want all the rioters to die.

Tis a shame they're not as concerned over the violence they do to innocents as you are over any violence done to them in an effort to quell the violence, the damage, the pain they're inflicting.

Where have I said or implied such???? ever
pity party indeed.

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