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Lucylastic -> RE: Fire the FBI Boss . . . (10/30/2016 12:04:31 PM)
LOL zero hedge strikes again.... LMAO considering they havent even got a warrant to go thru the mails, but "unnamed sources suspect", PS you need evidence and fact to prove murder, there are a lot of people capable of murder, but lets not worry about a little thing called proof Thats not a speculation ejaculation thats a tin foil hat wearers idiot response.

DaddySatyr -> RE: Fire the FBI Boss . . . (10/30/2016 12:08:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker Also, aliens. An excellent, well thought-out, retort. You've cut me to the quick with your laser-focused intelligence. /sarcasm You're dismissed. Michael

Lucylastic -> RE: Fire the FBI Boss . . . (10/30/2016 12:08:57 PM)
Fox News’ Jeanine Pirro came to Hillary Clinton’s defense on Sunday, criticizing FBI Director James Comey over his recently announced investigation into new emails relating to the former secretary of state. “Comey’s actions violate, not only long-standing Justice Department policy, the directive of the person that he works under, the attorney general,” the former prosecutor said, referring to Loretta Lynch’s reported disagreement with Comey, “but even more important, the most fundamental rules of fairness and impartiality.” A vocal supporter of GOP nominee Donald Trump, Pirro said Comey’s decision to announce the investigation so near Election Day reminded her of her own experience while running for New York attorney general in 2006. She called a DOJ investigation into her practices at the time “mean-spirited, and of course, nothing came of it except the adverse publicity cost me at the polls.” “What was done to me in 2006 was wrong, and what happened to Hillary Clinton was equally wrong,” Pirro said. “Now this nation has already gone through an exhausting and traumatic campaign season. The FBI director should not now be front and center.” Clinton’s campaign and Senate Democrats are calling on Comey to clarify the nature of the investigation out of concern that it is being misused for political purposes. “This is the biggest political scandal since Watergate, and I’m sure it will be properly handled from this point,” Trump said at a rally on Friday. Comey’s decision to announce the investigation so close to the election also alarmed Richard Painter, who served as the chief ethics lawyer in the White House under George W. Bush from 2005 to 2007. Painter announced Sunday in a New York Times op-ed that he had filed a Hatch Act violation complaint against Comey. The act prohibits employees of the executive branch from engaging in political activity. “I have spent much of my career working on government ethics and lawyers’ ethics, including two and a half years as the chief White House ethics lawyer for President George W. Bush, and I never thought that the F.B.I. could be dragged into a political circus surrounding one of its investigations,” Painter wrote. “Until this week.”

heavyblinker -> RE: Fire the FBI Boss . . . (10/30/2016 12:18:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr An excellent, well thought-out, retort. You've cut me to the quick with your laser-focused intelligence. /sarcasm You're dismissed. Sarcasm works better if you don't just say the opposite of what you think and then point out that it was sarcasm... there's not really anything funny or cutting about that. You're still learning, I guess. I guess I need to explain that the reason I said 'aliens' is because you were spouting conspiratorial garbage with no basis in reality... which is exactly why this whole thing is so stupid. You've already projected endless amounts of paranoid speculation into this purely out of a desire to confirm your prejudices... but also because you're addicted to the sensationalist thrills that RWNJ media has been feeding your so-called imagination for years now, and this lets you create your own. That's probably the scariest part of this whole 'there are emails, but we can't tell you about them' thing.

DaddySatyr -> RE: Fire the FBI Boss . . . (10/30/2016 12:24:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sloguy02246 I share every bit of your skepticism - and more - about Wikileaks, particularly where Assange is concerned. You mis-interpret my skepticism. I believe that Wikileaks believes they have the definite article. I believe that what they are doing is justified (by them) as being a "public service". Let's be clear: I'm not talking about actual hacking. I'm talking about disseminating information, no matter whence it originates. Where I'm skeptical is that until a "pedigree" on this leaked information can be established, it is not legitimate evidence against anyone. When you included: " ... particularly where Assange is concerned.", you *really* went off the rails (as far as I am concerned) in regards to my skepticism. I believe Assange's own affirmation that he wishes to ruin Hillary Clinton. I'm not skeptical about his motives, at all. quote: ORIGINAL: sloguy02246 I keep wondering what the people on here would say if Edward Snowden was the one "leaking" all this hacked material about Clinton. Ahh! Here's the moral equivalence test! I do NOT grant the premise that all this information is hacked. Even if you want to focus on Snowden, his assertion is that he saw some very bad things at NSA and wanted to expose the wrongs (according to him) in which the government was involved. He did not "hack" anything. He illegally downloaded and disseminated sensitive information. I posted on another thread that my impression of Wikileaks is that it is an outlet for whistle-blowers that allows them some anonymity while doing what they feel they are honor (or duty or conscience) bound to do. So, I wouldn't give a fat rat's ass if this info were coming from Snowden as long as it can be certified as authentic. quote: ORIGINAL: sloguy02246 Or would the outrage be the same if these were hacked emails from Trump's campaign? Once again, I point you to the fat rat. I wouldn't care about the place from which these revelations came. I *would care* if they were hacked (that's a crime). quote: ORIGINAL: sloguy02246 More to the point, perhaps we should wait to see what these emails actually contain before drawing conclusions, yes? Ummm ... No. I have already made up my mind about Shrillary. The Wikileaks info has garnered no response from me other than: "Well, duh!" In other words: There's little doubt in my mind that the anti-Christ is anything other than a lying, thieving, manipulating, piece of human flotsam that is wasting the oxygen that would be better used by good people. Michael

vincentML -> RE: Fire the FBI Boss . . . (10/30/2016 2:21:41 PM)
quote: Fox News’ Jeanine Pirro came to Hillary Clinton’s defense on Sunday, criticizing FBI Director James Comey over his recently announced investigation into new emails relating to the former secretary of state. “Comey’s actions violate, not only long-standing Justice Department policy, the directive of the person that he works under, the attorney general,” the former prosecutor said, referring to Loretta Lynch’s reported disagreement with Comey, “but even more important, the most fundamental rules of fairness and impartiality.” Good post, Lucy. I don't see how the Director survives. J Edgar must be spinning in his grave knowing Comey impeached the integrity of the Bureau with such a clumsy public turn.

Aylee -> RE: Fire the FBI Boss . . . (10/30/2016 2:50:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic That you dont get the difference between government agencies bringing up mis-information and women coming forward to say someone assaulted them is a false equivalency of shitastrophy proportions. Government agency did not bring up any false misinformation. Her emails are being investigated again! That's all they are saying. Which is the truth. Unprecedented for a federal executive agency to get involved in a national election. It just isn't done in this country. It happened in 1992.

Greta75 -> RE: Fire the FBI Boss . . . (10/31/2016 4:21:13 AM)
FR Don't Blame Comey for this Mess I think this CNN article articulates very well, why Comey did the right thing!

mnottertail -> RE: Fire the FBI Boss . . . (10/31/2016 4:27:02 AM)
Who will be the next FBI acting director when Hillary is President?

Greta75 -> RE: Fire the FBI Boss . . . (10/31/2016 4:34:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Who will be the next FBI acting director when Hillary is President? Isn't this dude appointed by Obama anyway?

mnottertail -> RE: Fire the FBI Boss . . . (10/31/2016 5:15:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Who will be the next FBI acting director when Hillary is President? Isn't this dude appointed by Obama anyway? Sure, but it has happened that FBI directors stay on. This one is going to be working for Faux Nuze, perhaps before the election.

KenDckey -> RE: Fire the FBI Boss . . . (10/31/2016 5:30:26 AM)
Can the FBI Director be fired? Yes http://blog.constitutioncenter.org/2016/10/how-independent-is-the-fbis-director/ I think that if they do the public will count it against Clinton.

mnottertail -> RE: Fire the FBI Boss . . . (10/31/2016 5:38:42 AM)
She wont fire him, she will appoint a new director is all. If he aint fired before she assumes office. Painter(oh, no, nutsuckers! a nutsucker!) has filed Hatch on him. Even Judge Jeannie Pirro (oh no nutsuckers! a nutsucker!) is grabbing him by the pussy.

bounty44 -> RE: Fire the FBI Boss . . . (10/31/2016 7:13:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Who will be the next FBI acting director when Hillary is President? Isn't this dude appointed by Obama anyway? Sure, but it has happened that FBI directors stay on. This one is going to be working for Faux Nuze, perhaps before the election. the only "faux" I ever see when you say "faux news" is related to your insightfulness, as well as that of other comrades who think they are somehow being clever with their poorly informed and cry-baby moniker.

mnottertail -> RE: Fire the FBI Boss . . . (10/31/2016 7:42:29 AM)
Oh, no felchgobbler44, Faux is in the dictionary. (oh no, nutsuckers, dictionary, something nutsuckers dont know about, what a bombshell, they are trying to keep it secret) (btw I see you misquote me. Faux Nuze (because there is no news involved, once again unto the dictionary, dear friends)). Nobody has ever accused nutsuckers or their propaganda organs they felch as being clever. Sorry, you lose my bolshevik friend, take off your pants.

Wayward5oul -> RE: Fire the FBI Boss . . . (10/31/2016 8:37:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 FR Don't Blame Comey for this Mess I think this CNN article articulates very well, why Comey did the right thing! But this works on the assumption that these emails were just discovered. The FBI has had these for weeks.

subrob1967 -> RE: Fire the FBI Boss . . . (10/31/2016 9:10:07 AM)
Here it is from the horse's mouth, and from a source even Pawn Star Chumlee can't dispute. NBC News quote: The FBI obtained a warrant to search emails related to the probe of Hillary Clinton's private server that were discovered on ex-congressman Anthony Weiner's laptop, law enforcement officials confirmed Sunday. The warrant came two days after FBI Director James Comey revealed the existence of the emails, which law enforcement sources said were linked to Weiner's estranged wife, top Clinton aide Huma Abedin. The sources said Abedin used the same laptop to send thousands of emails to Clinton. The FBI already had a warrant to search Weiner's laptop, but that only applied to evidence of his allegedly illicit communications with an underage girl. Agents will now compare the latest batch of messages with those that have already been investigated to determine whether any classified information was sent from Clinton's server. Comey's disclosure included few details about what the emails contained. In a letter to Congress, he said the FBI learned "of the existence of e-mails that appear to be pertinent" to the Clinton probe, but he added that the agency "cannot yet assess whether or not this material may be significant." The revelation ignited fierce criticism. Citing the longstanding practice of avoiding even the appearance of acting in a manner that could tip the political scales, former Justice Department spokesman Matt Miller said that "most people, when they hear that the FBI is involved, automatically assume the negative." Clinton called the move an "unprecedented" departure from FBI policy, and on Sunday, Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid scolded Comey for potentially breaking the law. "Your actions in recent months have demonstrated a disturbing double standard for the treatment of sensitive information, with what appears to be clear intent to aid one political party over another," the letter says. "I am writing to inform you that my office has determined that these actions may violate the Hatch Act." The act bars government officials from using their authority to influence elections. Reid also accused Comey of shielding Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump from scrutiny over his connections to Russia, saying "it has become clear that you possess explosive information about close ties and coordination" between Trump and his advisers and the Russian government. The FBI didn't immediately respond to requests for comment on Reid's letter. Earlier, Comey said in an internal message to FBI employees that "we don't ordinarily tell Congress about ongoing investigations, but here I feel an obligation to do so given that I testified repeatedly in recent months that our investigation was completed." The note added that it would "be misleading to the American people were we not to supplement the record. At the same time, however, given that we don't know the significance of this newly discovered collection of e-mails, I don't want to create a misleading impression."

mnottertail -> RE: Fire the FBI Boss . . . (10/31/2016 9:25:10 AM)
warrant ex-post facto. I don't see any reason the evidence would not be suppressed in a court of law, so what is the point?

mnottertail -> RE: Fire the FBI Boss . . . (10/31/2016 9:35:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 Here it is from the horse's mouth, and from a source even Pawn Star Chumlee can't dispute. NBC News quote: The FBI obtained a warrant to search emails related to the probe of Hillary Clinton's private server that were discovered on ex-congressman Anthony Weiner's laptop, law enforcement officials confirmed Sunday. The warrant came two days after FBI Director James Comey revealed the existence of the emails, which law enforcement sources said were linked to Weiner's estranged wife, top Clinton aide Huma Abedin. The sources said Abedin used the same laptop to send thousands of emails to Clinton. The FBI already had a warrant to search Weiner's laptop, but that only applied to evidence of his allegedly illicit communications with an underage girl. Agents will now compare the latest batch of messages with those that have already been investigated to determine whether any classified information was sent from Clinton's server. Comey's disclosure included few details about what the emails contained. In a letter to Congress, he said the FBI learned "of the existence of e-mails that appear to be pertinent" to the Clinton probe, but he added that the agency "cannot yet assess whether or not this material may be significant." The revelation ignited fierce criticism. Citing the longstanding practice of avoiding even the appearance of acting in a manner that could tip the political scales, former Justice Department spokesman Matt Miller said that "most people, when they hear that the FBI is involved, automatically assume the negative." Clinton called the move an "unprecedented" departure from FBI policy, and on Sunday, Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid scolded Comey for potentially breaking the law. "Your actions in recent months have demonstrated a disturbing double standard for the treatment of sensitive information, with what appears to be clear intent to aid one political party over another," the letter says. "I am writing to inform you that my office has determined that these actions may violate the Hatch Act." The act bars government officials from using their authority to influence elections. Reid also accused Comey of shielding Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump from scrutiny over his connections to Russia, saying "it has become clear that you possess explosive information about close ties and coordination" between Trump and his advisers and the Russian government. The FBI didn't immediately respond to requests for comment on Reid's letter. Earlier, Comey said in an internal message to FBI employees that "we don't ordinarily tell Congress about ongoing investigations, but here I feel an obligation to do so given that I testified repeatedly in recent months that our investigation was completed." The note added that it would "be misleading to the American people were we not to supplement the record. At the same time, however, given that we don't know the significance of this newly discovered collection of e-mails, I don't want to create a misleading impression." It is from the horses ass. Until such a time as the Judge who issued the warrant, or the horses asses Lynch or Comey themselves say it out loud, it is not from the horses mouth.

Greta75 -> RE: Fire the FBI Boss . . . (10/31/2016 9:42:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul But this works on the assumption that these emails were just discovered. The FBI has had these for weeks. That's how difficult the decision was, to inform congress or not.

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