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One Cop murdered another wounded. - 11/7/2016 1:09:32 AM   
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The Georgia cops were ambushed as they got out of their car.
Before anyone points out that domestic disturbances are the most dangerous for cops note that the gunman was waiting for them outside the home.


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RE: One Cop murdered another wounded. - 11/7/2016 1:24:13 AM   
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The Georgia cops were ambushed as they got out of their car.
Before anyone points out that domestic disturbances are the most dangerous for cops note that the gunman was waiting for them outside the home.


wgxa.tv/news/local/several-law-enforcement-agencies-working-a-scene-in-byron



Utah Cop killed by unarmed man.

fox13now.com/.../west-valley-city-officer-killed-3-suspects-in-custody/

We are constantly told that a person driving a car is no threat to cops so this must be a false story planted by the right wing press.

Heil Hillary

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RE: One Cop murdered another wounded. - 11/7/2016 5:16:06 AM   
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This white on white crime is rife in our society. where were the 2nd amendment boys? The good news, on this one you didnt blame Obama, yet.

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RE: One Cop murdered another wounded. - 11/7/2016 6:09:13 AM   
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yeh its a shame they have been shooting so many unarmed people and getting away with it, looks like the people are starting to fight back huh?

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RE: One Cop murdered another wounded. - 11/7/2016 10:17:32 AM   
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/11/07/mo-man-kills-4-and-5-year-old-sons-and-self-in-murder-suicide-police-say/?wpisrc=nl_most-draw6&wpmm=1


Christopher Cadenbach met his mother, Diane, and his two sons, 5-year-old Ethan and 4-year-old Owen, for what police called a “pleasant day at the park” in St. Louis County on Saturday afternoon.

The elder son was in kindergarten at West Elementary, in Washington, Mo. The younger was in preschool.

Cadenbach’s estranged wife and the boys’ mother, Elisa Sartorius-Cadenbach, told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that he was always “a very attentive, loving, over-the-top caring individual for these boys.”

That changed Saturday in the most horrible way.

Sartorius-Cadenbach had accused Cadenbach of domestic abuse after she told him she wanted a divorce. She said he hurt her twice in the past nine days and sent a photograph of her bruised face to a friend, who forwarded it to police.

In response, officers went searching for Cadenbach on Saturday, while he was at the park, the Post-Dispatch reported.

He seemed to be aware of the search.

He told his mother that he “wasn’t going to be taken alive” and planned to commit “suicide by cop,” St. Louis County officials told KMOV-TV. At about 6:30 p.m., he took her Ford Focus, loaded his sons into it and sped off, leaving her behind.

His mother called police, who issued an Amber Alert.

After nearly an hour, a St. Louis County park ranger noticed the car in Cliff Cave Park along the Mississippi River, just before 8 p.m. The ranger called reinforcements, and a county police helicopter approached the scene. From the air, they watched a man walk toward the car.

Gunshots immediately followed.

“He was shooting his children,” St. Louis County Deputy Chief Ken Cox told the Post-Dispatch.

Police engaged Cadenbach in what Cox said was a “pitch-black” scene.

But police said Cadenbach, 43, first fatally shot Ethan and Owen, then himself.
Christopher Cadenbach met his mother, Diane, and his two sons, 5-year-old Ethan and 4-year-old Owen, for what police called a “pleasant day at the park” in St. Louis County on Saturday afternoon.

The elder son was in kindergarten at West Elementary, in Washington, Mo. The younger was in preschool.

Cadenbach’s estranged wife and the boys’ mother, Elisa Sartorius-Cadenbach, told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that he was always “a very attentive, loving, over-the-top caring individual for these boys.”

That changed Saturday in the most horrible way.

Sartorius-Cadenbach had accused Cadenbach of domestic abuse after she told him she wanted a divorce. She said he hurt her twice in the past nine days and sent a photograph of her bruised face to a friend, who forwarded it to police.

In response, officers went searching for Cadenbach on Saturday, while he was at the park, the Post-Dispatch reported.

He seemed to be aware of the search.

He told his mother that he “wasn’t going to be taken alive” and planned to commit “suicide by cop,” St. Louis County officials told KMOV-TV. At about 6:30 p.m., he took her Ford Focus, loaded his sons into it and sped off, leaving her behind.

His mother called police, who issued an Amber Alert.

After nearly an hour, a St. Louis County park ranger noticed the car in Cliff Cave Park along the Mississippi River, just before 8 p.m. The ranger called reinforcements, and a county police helicopter approached the scene. From the air, they watched a man walk toward the car.

Gunshots immediately followed.

“He was shooting his children,” St. Louis County Deputy Chief Ken Cox told the Post-Dispatch.

Police engaged Cadenbach in what Cox said was a “pitch-black” scene.

But police said Cadenbach, 43, first fatally shot Ethan and Owen, then himself.

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RE: One Cop murdered another wounded. - 11/7/2016 3:19:20 PM   
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quote:

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This white on white crime is rife in our society. where were the 2nd amendment boys? The good news, on this one you didnt blame Obama, yet.

Advocating being able to defend yourself.
We also advocate the same rights for black people who face far more danger than people living in white neighborhood.

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RE: One Cop murdered another wounded. - 11/7/2016 3:44:04 PM   
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doesn't it seem like vile critter parts apparently believes either that there are never any instances of defensive gun use

or

that the absence of defensive gun use in any given situation, particularly a large crisis one, is evidence of the above

or

since there aren't defensive guns uses going on in every criminal instance, well lets just restrict ownership even more?


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RE: One Cop murdered another wounded. - 11/7/2016 4:03:48 PM   
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quote:

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doesn't it seem like vile critter parts apparently believes either that there are never any instances of defensive gun use

or

that the absence of defensive gun use in any given situation, particularly a large crisis one, is evidence of the above

or,

since there aren't defensive guns uses going on in every criminal instance, well lets just restrict ownership even more?



Right, only the government should have guns.
Of course that would hurt his business worse than any gun show.

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RE: One Cop murdered another wounded. - 11/7/2016 5:02:50 PM   
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quote:

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We are constantly told that a person driving a car is no threat to cops so this must be a false story planted by the right wing press.




"We" being ... you and your friend Harvey, right?

No one here ever came close to even hinting such a thing, I don't know anybody who's seen or heard anything claiming such from any reputable news source, so the rest of us missed out on it.

I thought your medical was mostly covered. In any case you seriously need to get an updated psych evaluation. Just like updating the prescription for the glasses, you know? You deserve better meds than whatever they're giving you now.


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RE: One Cop murdered another wounded. - 11/7/2016 5:18:12 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
We are constantly told that a person driving a car is no threat to cops so this must be a false story planted by the right wing press.




"We" being ... you and your friend Harvey, right?

No one here ever came close to even hinting such a thing, I don't know anybody who's seen or heard anything claiming such in in/on any reputable news source, so the rest of us missed out on it.

I thought your medical was mostly covered. In any case you seriously need to get an updated psych evaluation. Just like updating the prescription for the glasses, you know? You deserve better meds than whatever they're giving you now.


You have never seen a headline about police shoot unarmed man and it turns out that the "unarmed man" was trying to run over the cop.
You have never heard anyone say that they were just trying to get away the cop
should have moved aside and let them go?

But I notice you like going directly to personal attacks.

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RE: One Cop murdered another wounded. - 11/7/2016 5:45:22 PM   
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You have never seen a headline about police shoot unarmed man and it turns out that the "unarmed man" was trying to run over the cop.[?]


Never. All times I've seen 'unarmed' involved in the lede referred to either a pedestrian or someone the cop pulled over. I've never seen a headline about someone trying to run over cops use the word 'unarmed.' Except for your hallucinatory post above, never heard anyone else claim to have seen it, either.

If, as you claim, you are being "constantly told that a person driving a car is no threat to cops" with such headlines, then you read different news sources than anyone else.

quote:

You have never heard anyone say that they were just trying to get away the cop
should have moved aside and let them go?


Yes I've seen that mentioned and discussed by some, but never in a headline or the story itself, and no reporting of such an incident invoked the word 'unarmed' in the headline. There have been in some of the following stories, however, mentions of unarmed passengers killed in the car that three cops emptied their guns into. Still wasn't in the headline, though.



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RE: One Cop murdered another wounded. - 11/7/2016 6:09:18 PM   
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We are constantly told that a person driving a car is no threat to cops


You are the only one who has said that. Which would make you a liar.




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RE: One Cop murdered another wounded. - 11/7/2016 6:41:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD

We are constantly told that a person driving a car is no threat to cops


You are the only one who has said that. Which would make you a liar.





No it means you have blotted it out.
Case in point in Iowa kid stole a pickup, ran through the local college campus nearly killed several people and when the police cornered him he drove the pickup straight at them they fired and he was killed .
Headline unarmed Iowa teenager shot and killed by police.

Same sort of thing happened in Colorado.


It only means I remember better than you.

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RE: One Cop murdered another wounded. - 11/7/2016 6:42:59 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
You have never seen a headline about police shoot unarmed man and it turns out that the "unarmed man" was trying to run over the cop.[?]


Never. All times I've seen 'unarmed' involved in the lede referred to either a pedestrian or someone the cop pulled over. I've never seen a headline about someone trying to run over cops use the word 'unarmed.' Except for your hallucinatory post above, never heard anyone else claim to have seen it, either.

If, as you claim, you are being "constantly told that a person driving a car is no threat to cops" with such headlines, then you read different news sources than anyone else.

quote:

You have never heard anyone say that they were just trying to get away the cop
should have moved aside and let them go?


Yes I've seen that mentioned and discussed by some, but never in a headline or the story itself, and no reporting of such an incident invoked the word 'unarmed' in the headline. There have been in some of the following stories, however, mentions of unarmed passengers killed in the car that three cops emptied their guns into. Still wasn't in the headline, though.



I read more than anyone else.

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RE: One Cop murdered another wounded. - 11/7/2016 7:15:07 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

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This white on white crime is rife in our society. where were the 2nd amendment boys? The good news, on this one you didnt blame Obama, yet.

Advocating being able to defend yourself.
We also advocate the same rights for black people who face far more danger than people living in white neighborhood.

Looks like he got to defend himself. This white on white crime is a real problem, these white goons and thugs with guns.

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RE: One Cop murdered another wounded. - 11/7/2016 7:22:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD
We are constantly told that a person driving a car is no threat to cops

You are the only one who has said that. Which would make you a liar.


in order to know that troll, you would have to be omniscient.

so once again:

quote:

If I disagree with another poster I will deliniate my disagreement with validation from reputable sources. When proved wrong I admit it and thank the poster for disabusing me of my ignorance. I have been proved wrong in less than a half dozen cases with more than 20,000 post.


i'll be looking for either that "thank you" or evidence of your "all knowing" capabilities from "reputable sources."

by the way---this is about the 4th maybe the 5th time ive corrected you in the past two weeks---so that 6 per 20,000 statistic is lookin' pretty suspect too don't ya think?


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RE: One Cop murdered another wounded. - 11/7/2016 9:36:01 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

quote:

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
We are constantly told that a person driving a car is no threat to cops

You are the only one who has said that. Which would make you a liar.


in order to know that troll, you would have to be omniscient.

so once again:

quote:

If I disagree with another poster I will deliniate my disagreement with validation from reputable sources. When proved wrong I admit it and thank the poster for disabusing me of my ignorance. I have been proved wrong in less than a half dozen cases with more than 20,000 post.


i'll be looking for either that "thank you" or evidence of your "all knowing" capabilities from "reputable sources."

by the way---this is about the 4th maybe the 5th time ive corrected you in the past two weeks---so that 6 per 20,000 statistic is lookin' pretty suspect too don't ya think?


I have corrected him that many times today. He still won't admit that he either lies about me or he has illegally hacked several databases.

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RE: One Cop murdered another wounded. - 11/7/2016 10:49:39 PM   
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yeh its a shame they have been shooting so many unarmed people and getting away with it, looks like the people are starting to fight back huh?


You mean that these particular policemen shot unarmed people?

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RE: One Cop murdered another wounded. - 11/8/2016 5:20:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

We are constantly told that a person driving a car is no threat to cops


You are the only one who has said that. Which would make you a liar.




No it means you have blotted it out.



If that were true you would be able to post up for us the "constant" reference to cars not being a danger to cops.
You can't so that makes you, ipso facto, a liar.




It only means I remember better than you.

Then post up what your so called better memory claims.

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RE: One Cop murdered another wounded. - 11/8/2016 5:29:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
ORIGINAL: BamaD

We are constantly told that a person driving a car is no threat to cops

You are the only one who has said that. Which would make you a liar.
[/quote]

in order to know that troll, you would have to be omniscient.

so once again:

Post up the "constant" citations. Until you do you will remain in the same circle felch with your comrade.


i'll be looking for either that "thank you" or evidence of your "all knowing" capabilities from "reputable sources."


We await your citations substantiating your opinion.

by the way---this is about the 4th maybe the 5th time ive corrected you in the past two weeks---


Actually you have only one and that was when you pointed out that the brady's, after about a half century of being republicrats, changed their political party to demopubs.


so that 6 per 20,000 statistic is lookin' pretty suspect too don't ya think?

Actually it was somewhat less than six and it is suspect only in the minds of the delusional.

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