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Germany Bans Islamic Group and raided 60 cities - 11/15/2016 3:20:55 AM   
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I just want to say, FIRST, you let them in without proper vetting, and then NOW, you gotta spend all this stupid resources on such a big raid like 60 cities, raiding 190 mosques and offices and apartments for these evil Muslims.

Seriously..., is this really the solution? Let them infiltrate and sink their roots, THEN weed them out?

But this is certainly a big U-Turn of things, Germany has woken up and taken it seriously now.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/germany-launches-raids-across-60-cities-bans-radical-islamist-group/2016/11/15/0353ef76-1649-4216-89c6-ef4a916b922e_story.html

BERLIN — German police in 60 cities staged sweeping raids early Tuesday targeting the Islamist group True Religion on accusations of recruiting for the Islamic State, as authorities intensified a large scale crackdown against religious extremists.

The Germans have launched hundreds of raids in recent months as they grapple with a heightened threat of terror following a spate of attacks in Germany and neighboring countries as well as elevated fears of homegrown radicalization.

Police searched 190 mosques, apartments and offices connected to the Salafist, or ultraconservative, Muslim organization that is ubiquitous in Germany with its members setting up highly-visible welcome tables on busy streets. The group — also known by the name Read! — distributes translated copies of the Koran for free and attempts to spread the faith.

But what on the surface seemed like a legitimate religious organization was also a recruiting operation for the radical Islamic State group, German Interior Minister Thomas de Maizière said Tuesday after the raids began. He added that 140 people affiliated with the group had gone on to fight in Syria.

De Maizière announced that the group would now be officially banned in Germany for inciting hate and spreading extremism. “Today's measure is a clear signal, we are taking decisive and comprehensive action against all efforts directed against our freedom and our fundamental values,” he said.
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RE: Germany Bans Islamic Group and raided 60 cities - 11/15/2016 6:16:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Greta75

I just want to say, FIRST, you let them in without proper vetting, and then NOW, you gotta spend all this stupid resources on such a big raid like 60 cities, raiding 190 mosques and offices and apartments for these evil Muslims.

Seriously..., is this really the solution? Let them infiltrate and sink their roots, THEN weed them out?

But this is certainly a big U-Turn of things, Germany has woken up and taken it seriously now.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/germany-launches-raids-across-60-cities-bans-radical-islamist-group/2016/11/15/0353ef76-1649-4216-89c6-ef4a916b922e_story.html

BERLIN — German police in 60 cities staged sweeping raids early Tuesday targeting the Islamist group True Religion on accusations of recruiting for the Islamic State, as authorities intensified a large scale crackdown against religious extremists.

The Germans have launched hundreds of raids in recent months as they grapple with a heightened threat of terror following a spate of attacks in Germany and neighboring countries as well as elevated fears of homegrown radicalization.

Police searched 190 mosques, apartments and offices connected to the Salafist, or ultraconservative, Muslim organization that is ubiquitous in Germany with its members setting up highly-visible welcome tables on busy streets. The group — also known by the name Read! — distributes translated copies of the Koran for free and attempts to spread the faith.

But what on the surface seemed like a legitimate religious organization was also a recruiting operation for the radical Islamic State group, German Interior Minister Thomas de Maizière said Tuesday after the raids began. He added that 140 people affiliated with the group had gone on to fight in Syria.

De Maizière announced that the group would now be officially banned in Germany for inciting hate and spreading extremism. “Today's measure is a clear signal, we are taking decisive and comprehensive action against all efforts directed against our freedom and our fundamental values,” he said.


Obviously due to the election of Trump Germany has turned Islamaphobic (sarcasm font off).

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RE: Germany Bans Islamic Group and raided 60 cities - 11/15/2016 7:05:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Obviously due to the election of Trump Germany has turned Islamaphobic (sarcasm font off).

Nothing to do with Trump.
This situation has been brewing for a while in Europe.

I don't view it as Islamophobic either.
I very much support the idea that "we are taking decisive and comprehensive action against all efforts directed against our freedom and our fundamental values".
Outing and deporting/incarcerating trouble makers are what our laws are about - regardless of religion, race, creed or colour.
The fact that it is very much the Islamics that have these extremist views, and that they don't police it themselves, is reason to act.
That isn't being Islamophobic, it's being pragmatic and practical.

And I agree, it's a bit late after you've let them in.
A bit of shutting the gate after the horse has bolted.
But at least they are doing something to curb extremists inside their own borders.

Many of us decried the wholesale opening of borders.
Farage warned of the consequences two years ago when they started doing this shit.
Everyone accused him of scaremongering.
Now we are seeing the results, and the costs, of dealing with the aftermath.
Merkel's support has plummeted.


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RE: Germany Bans Islamic Group and raided 60 cities - 11/15/2016 7:14:34 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
Obviously due to the election of Trump Germany has turned Islamaphobic (sarcasm font off).

Nothing to do with Trump.
This situation has been brewing for a while in Europe.

I don't view it as Islamophobic either.
I very much support the idea that "we are taking decisive and comprehensive action against all efforts directed against our freedom and our fundamental values".
Outing and deporting/incarcerating trouble makers are what our laws are about - regardless of religion, race, creed or colour.
The fact that it is very much the Islamics that have these extremist views, and that they don't police it themselves, is reason to act.
That isn't being Islamophobic, it's being pragmatic and practical.

And I agree, it's a bit late after you've let them in.
A bit of shutting the gate after the horse has bolted.
But at least they are doing something to curb extremists inside their own borders.

Many of us decried the wholesale opening of borders.
Farage warned of the consequences two years ago when they started doing this shit.
Everyone accused him of scaremongering.
Now we are seeing the results, and the costs, of dealing with the aftermath.
Merkel's support has plummeted.


Did you read the part that said sarcasm font off?

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RE: Germany Bans Islamic Group and raided 60 cities - 11/15/2016 7:25:03 AM   
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I did - but it's wasted on me.
And Greta doesn't view the subject with sarcasm either.


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RE: Germany Bans Islamic Group and raided 60 cities - 11/15/2016 9:04:51 AM   
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Now that's weird, because I could've sworn some idiotic leftist was claiming that Germany didn't have a problem with Islam.

Ah, leftists. Refusing to deal with reality since 1865.

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