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Musicmystery -> Why is Trump trying to undermine organizations meant to keep the country safe? (1/6/2017 7:25:51 AM)

Donald Trump Casts Intelligence Aside

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/05/opinion/donald-trump-casts-intelligence-aside.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region



mnottertail -> RE: Why is Trump trying to undermine organizations meant to keep the country safe? (1/6/2017 7:39:12 AM)

Cuz he owes China and Russia and will do as he is bidden.



Lucylastic -> RE: Why is Trump trying to undermine organizations meant to keep the country safe? (1/6/2017 7:50:47 AM)

Its interesting to me that Clapper et al came out YESTERDAY to announce their findings, when today is Trumps meeting with all his intelligence chaps????

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/sen-mccain-russia-s-election-meddling-unprecedented-attack-n700981



Musicmystery -> RE: Why is Trump trying to undermine organizations meant to keep the country safe? (1/6/2017 7:51:23 AM)

Trump Ignoring US Intelligence Creates Risks Beyond Russian Hacking

https://www.wired.com/2016/12/trump-cia-national-intelligence-briefings/



cloudboy -> RE: Why is Trump trying to undermine organizations meant to keep the country safe? (1/6/2017 8:28:43 AM)

Trump showed little interest in facts, figures, or policies during the election. Since winning the election - he's doubling down on himself and his instincts.

Of course Hillary was a "horrible candidate" -- to much of a policy wonk and realist for a minority of voters.



Musicmystery -> RE: Why is Trump trying to undermine organizations meant to keep the country safe? (1/6/2017 9:24:54 AM)

Parading around a straw man doesn't make one a real boy.



WhoreMods -> RE: Why is Trump trying to undermine organizations meant to keep the country safe? (1/6/2017 10:03:02 AM)

Not that germane to this particular discussion, but it does have some bearing on your and cloudboy's argument about whether or not a protest vote for a third party was a vote for the cheeto-faced, tiny-fingered ferret-wearing shitgibbon:
Why are people assuming that if the post nominations campaign had been Sanders against the orange cockwomble it would have ended any differently, or been handled in a classier fashion? There wouldn't have been disgruntled Sandersites voting for the gibbering mouther to spite the nasty skank who stole the nomination from poor Bernie, but that aside, why is being taken for granted that things would have ended differently? It's hard to shake the feeling that if the pedo elect was unpleasant about a female opponent, he wouldn't have been any more courteous towards an elderly male one.



Musicmystery -> RE: Why is Trump trying to undermine organizations meant to keep the country safe? (1/6/2017 10:25:16 AM)

I don't think anyone is claiming the outcome would have been certain.

More people would have voted. And a candidate's resume doesn't matter if that candidate isn't electable--and this one got beat by Trump. As did the clown car of candidates in the GOP primary.

This was never a real race. Sanders would have at least made it a real race.

People were voting against candidates, not for them. Even the campaigns were run that way.

Trump won a smaller percentage of the eligible vote than Kerry, McCain, Romney, or Ford when they all lost...and he still won, thanks to the lowest turnout in 20 years. And Clinton still did worse.

Two horrible candidates in the worst election of my lifetime.



Real0ne -> RE: Why is Trump trying to undermine organizations meant to keep the country safe? (1/6/2017 10:35:44 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Trump Ignoring US Intelligence Creates Risks Beyond Russian Hacking

https://www.wired.com/2016/12/trump-cia-national-intelligence-briefings/


They’ve worried that he could abuse their heady surveillance capabilities, turn them on his personal enemies, revamp the NSA’s mass surveillance programs, and strip away domestic privacy protections once in charge.


as snowden has prove you are a day late and 10 bucks short LOL



WhoreMods -> RE: Why is Trump trying to undermine organizations meant to keep the country safe? (1/6/2017 10:35:47 AM)

So maybe Clinton being the opponent was actually a merciful escape and if somebody half decent had lost to the Scots' favourite twat it would have hurt a lot more?



Real0ne -> RE: Why is Trump trying to undermine organizations meant to keep the country safe? (1/6/2017 10:43:16 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

I don't think anyone is claiming the outcome would have been certain.

More people would have voted. And a candidate's resume doesn't matter if that candidate isn't electable--and this one got beat by Trump. As did the clown car of candidates in the GOP primary.

This was never a real race. Sanders would have at least made it a real race.

People were voting against candidates, not for them. Even the campaigns were run that way.

Trump won a smaller percentage of the eligible vote than Kerry, McCain, Romney, or Ford when they all lost...and he still won, thanks to the lowest turnout in 20 years. And Clinton still did worse.

Two horrible candidates in the worst election of my lifetime.



Nothing is different than it was 100 years ago, you simply havent been paying enough attention over the last 50 years.
As far back as I can remember the american public have been disappointed with the candidates that run for the big chair, most likely because of the huge misleading biases in presentation.

Hilliary is a criminal, and McStain was a traitor, nicknamed 'songbird mcCain' when the vietcong interegated him he gave away all our codes. The rest of the soldiers serving with him hated him and hate him to this day.



Musicmystery -> RE: Why is Trump trying to undermine organizations meant to keep the country safe? (1/6/2017 10:43:19 AM)

I've no idea what you're talking about now.



BoscoX -> RE: Why is Trump trying to undermine organizations meant to keep the country safe? (1/6/2017 10:51:28 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Trump Ignoring US Intelligence Creates Risks Beyond Russian Hacking

https://www.wired.com/2016/12/trump-cia-national-intelligence-briefings/


They’ve worried that he could abuse their heady surveillance capabilities, turn them on his personal enemies, revamp the NSA’s mass surveillance programs, and strip away domestic privacy protections once in charge.


as snowden has prove you are a day late and 10 bucks short LOL


Democrat's biggest fear is that President Trump is just like them



WickedsDesire -> RE: Why is Trump trying to undermine organizations meant to keep the country safe? (1/6/2017 11:20:47 AM)

I cast most of humanity asunder of that there is no secret for a plethora of reasons. Hope there is not, save the few and my flock of cats - wtf is it called again a chowder and why can I never remember?

But Christ on a bike the one they call elect trumpaloons is off his his fuking nut and he has indeed took to the twitter a few times dismissing your intelligent services/briefings

Ah, they’ve updated this story several times and twice today it is now titled

Russia hacking claims: US intelligence chiefs brief Trump

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38532700

And he already the system fixed before Emperor Penguin Putin got involved.

I rarely change my mind it happens does it not wifey5 (greta75) for those who do not follow.

But when the buffoonery that calls itself America comes to the realization they really did make a mockery of your system…things will take a bit of a turn for the worst.

And the one called Trumpaloons is invalid and anyone who voted for creature a pinko – anyone care to have a bit of an argument?


I looked it up its called clowder ahahahahaha



WhoreMods -> RE: Why is Trump trying to undermine organizations meant to keep the country safe? (1/6/2017 12:18:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

I've no idea what you're talking about now.

Mea culpa, I didn't think that was puzzling, but I was referring to the cheeto Fuhrer as "the Scot's favourite twat" ironically: as a quick investigation of his jaunt around his Aberdeen gold course when he should have been campaigning in the 'States last year proved, the Scots like him even less than American lefties, liberals, centrists and trad rightists do (which is no mean feat but you know: Scots).
By somebody half decent I meant Bernie Sanders, who has almost certainly been unduly overpraised since losing Democrat the nomination, but probably would have got at least a few votes from people who'd have sooner eaten their own shit until they died puking blood than vote for Clinton (I'm assuming you're in this camp yourself?). Quite possibly there other people besides Sanders and Clinton chasing the Democrat nomination, but they got less attention than the sorry shower of wannabe theocrats, neo-feudalists and people called "Bush" who were contesting the gibbering mouther for the Republican nomination.
Bit clearer now?



PeonForHer -> RE: Why is Trump trying to undermine organizations meant to keep the country safe? (1/6/2017 12:24:36 PM)

A surfeit of *purple prose* old chap, I feel. [:D]



WhoreMods -> RE: Why is Trump trying to undermine organizations meant to keep the country safe? (1/6/2017 12:27:45 PM)

Meh. You'd probably rather I wrote like The Sun.



PeonForHer -> RE: Why is Trump trying to undermine organizations meant to keep the country safe? (1/6/2017 2:51:29 PM)

You wound me, WM, you wound me.



BoscoX -> RE: Why is Trump trying to undermine organizations meant to keep the country safe? (1/7/2017 9:58:49 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Donald Trump Casts Intelligence Aside

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/05/opinion/donald-trump-casts-intelligence-aside.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region


Love the sudden new love affair the alt left has with the CIA etc

Such a dramatic overnight reversal

(America Great Again)

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Lucylastic -> RE: Why is Trump trying to undermine organizations meant to keep the country safe? (1/7/2017 10:37:52 AM)

would be cute but you havent even read the report
and its more than just the CIA...
but facts are immaterial to you...
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