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Kirata -> White House Agenda Mirrors Campaign Pledges (1/22/2017 3:06:47 AM)
New Trump White House Website Sets Agenda That Mirrors Campaign Pledges WASHINGTON—The Trump administration overhauled the White House’s website Friday and published action plans that ranged from building a wall along the Mexico border to pulling back from trade deals, transforming a number of populist campaign themes into concrete agenda items. The revised website created six different issue pages for energy policy, foreign policy, economic policy, expanding the size of the military, bolstering law enforcement, and rethinking trade. So far, so good. But Wapo still couldn't resist spinning a claim that the Trump campaign had lied: In reaffirming many of Mr. Trump’s campaign pledges, the site drew criticism for repeating an incorrect statistic from the trail. The site says that murders in Washington, D.C., are up 50%. In fact, homicides in Washington fell by 17% in 2016 from the previous year, according to the city’s government But of course, that ignores the fact that the campaign was run in 2016, at which point the only available annual homicide data was for 2015. They're right in one respect, though. Homicides in the District didn't increase by 50% in 2015, they increased by 54%! The figure put out by the Trump campaign was actually slightly lower than the real increase. And by July of the campaign, the District's homicide count looked like 2016 was going to be another banner year. Which in fact it was: The murder rate didn't quite reach 2015's level, but it only fell off 17% from the previous year's bloody 54% rise. Journalism in this country is in the toilet. K.

Musicmystery -> RE: White House Agenda Mirrors Campaign Pledges (1/22/2017 6:37:17 AM)
Obviously, in his own comments, Trump has backed far off pledges he made repeatedly during the campaign. Not really a wall, or in all places, for example. More specifically, though, these plans need specifics. It's a wish list. I'm curious what happens next.

BoscoX -> RE: White House Agenda Mirrors Campaign Pledges (1/22/2017 7:00:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Obviously, in his own comments, Trump has backed far off pledges he made repeatedly during the campaign. Not really a wall, or in all places, for example. More specifically, though, these plans need specifics. It's a wish list. I'm curious what happens next. You demand that President Trump literally build a wall from the Pacific to the Gulf. But you were content with Obama's no-border tangent I am content, that we have changed direction, exactly as promised.

WhoreMods -> RE: White House Agenda Mirrors Campaign Pledges (1/22/2017 7:28:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Obviously, in his own comments, Trump has backed far off pledges he made repeatedly during the campaign. Not really a wall, or in all places, for example. More specifically, though, these plans need specifics. It's a wish list. I'm curious what happens next. To extend your metaphor: people using Amazon ignore his wish list, and he gets all pouty about people refusing to buy the stuff that he won't budget to pay for himself.

WickedsDesire -> RE: White House Agenda Mirrors Campaign Pledges (1/22/2017 10:04:43 AM)
Surprised there are any of you American jackals left at the rate you shoot yourself at. Is their a section for breeding? And his energy policy one is what, a blank page or a picture of a bucket of gasoline?

Musicmystery -> RE: White House Agenda Mirrors Campaign Pledges (1/22/2017 11:47:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Obviously, in his own comments, Trump has backed far off pledges he made repeatedly during the campaign. Not really a wall, or in all places, for example. More specifically, though, these plans need specifics. It's a wish list. I'm curious what happens next. You demand that President Trump literally build a wall from the Pacific to the Gulf. But you were content with Obama's no-border tangent I am content, that we have changed direction, exactly as promised. You decided to use "alternative facts," I see. (I'm gonna be laughing for months over that silliness) Building a wall is stupid. Just the kind of thing the kool-aid drinkers would applaud. And believe. http://adage.com/article/cmo-strategy/debate-ad-tecate-turns-trump-s-wall-a-beer-prop/305999/

Musicmystery -> RE: White House Agenda Mirrors Campaign Pledges (1/22/2017 12:07:50 PM)
Andy Borowitz: Trump's promises for Day One: Destroy ISIS, build wall with Mexico, deport foreigners, put America first How Trump actually spent Day One: Hiding from ladies #WomensMarch

BoscoX -> RE: White House Agenda Mirrors Campaign Pledges (1/22/2017 12:17:23 PM)
You keep laughing, which... Your behavior here belies that you have actually gone mad. Still, do your maniacal laugh routine, while we Trump enthusiasts watch as immigration laws are enforced again. The only ones who might try to claim that President Trump literally meant a sea-to-sea wall, are you sore bitter losers. What we heard and what we voted for was a complete reversal of practically every Obama policy. A total erasure of the Obama years - and that is exactly what we are getting. You're laughing, we are happy - win win. Though your laughter is insane laughter, it's laughter still, I suppose. Kind of counts.

thompsonx -> RE: White House Agenda Mirrors Campaign Pledges (1/23/2017 2:45:27 AM)
ORIGINAL: Kirata So far, so good. But Wapo still couldn't resist spinning a claim that the Trump campaign had lied: The liar here is you mr. k. In reaffirming many of Mr. Trump’s campaign pledges, the site drew criticism for repeating an incorrect statistic from the trail. The site says that murders in Washington, D.C., are up 50%. In fact, homicides in Washington fell by 17% in 2016 from the previous year, according to the city’s government But of course, that ignores the fact that the campaign was run in 2016, at which point the only available annual homicide data was for 2015. Why do you think a daily count was not available through 2016? They're right in one respect, though. Homicides in the District didn't increase by 50% in 2015, they increased by 54%! The figure put out by the Trump campaign was actually slightly lower than the real increase. And by July of the campaign, the District's homicide count looked like 2016 was going to be another banner year. Which in fact it was: The murder rate didn't quite reach 2015's level, but it only fell off 17% from the previous year's bloody 54% rise. Here we can see the lie you are trying to tell. Here is d.c. crime rate for a 20 year period/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Washington,_D.C. Journalism in this country is in the toilet. You failed to mention that d.c. is about 50% caucasian and that that shift in the demographic has been within the past five or so years.

thompsonx -> RE: White House Agenda Mirrors Campaign Pledges (1/23/2017 2:49:11 AM)
ORIGINAL: BoscoX You demand that President Trump literally build a wall from the Pacific to the Gulf. That was trumps campagn promise. If you are willing to give him a pass on that that would be on you. But you were content with Obama's no-border tangent Obama deported more illegal aliens than his predecessor. I am content, that we have changed direction, exactly as promised. Some fools are always content with lies.

thompsonx -> RE: White House Agenda Mirrors Campaign Pledges (1/23/2017 2:55:01 AM)
ORIGINAL: BoscoX while we Trump enthusiasts watch as immigration laws are enforced again. Which laws are those? The felonies that the employers commits or the misdomeanor the illegal commits? The only ones who might try to claim that President Trump literally meant a sea-to-sea wall, are you sore bitter losers. Or his actual words What we heard and what we voted for was a complete reversal of practically every Obama policy. A total erasure of the Obama years - and that is exactly what we are getting. So he is going to return lybia to its legal government and bring bin lauden back to life?[8\|]

Termyn8or -> RE: White House Agenda Mirrors Campaign Pledges (1/23/2017 3:24:44 AM)
"So he is going to return lybia to its legal government and bring bin lauden back to life? " But but but, Qadhaffi was going to introduce the African gold dinar backed by gold which would hurt the US dollar ! People liked him. There should not have been an embassy there. It should have been converted to a military base. And not a fucking stoooooopid gun free one. T^T

thompsonx -> RE: White House Agenda Mirrors Campaign Pledges (1/23/2017 4:08:15 AM)
ORIGINAL: Termyn8or It should have been converted to a military base. And not a fucking stoooooopid gun free one. Why do you think military bases are gun free? Is it because you were never in the military? Or is it because you are just phoquing stupid?

Kirata -> RE: White House Agenda Mirrors Campaign Pledges (1/23/2017 4:21:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: Kirata So far, so good. But Wapo still couldn't resist spinning a claim that the Trump campaign had lied: The liar here is you mr. k. Back to making shit up, I see. quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: Kirata In reaffirming many of Mr. Trump’s campaign pledges, the site drew criticism for repeating an incorrect statistic from the trail. The site says that murders in Washington, D.C., are up 50%. In fact, homicides in Washington fell by 17% in 2016 from the previous year, according to the city’s government But of course, that ignores the fact that the campaign was run in 2016, at which point the only available annual homicide data was for 2015. Why do you think a daily count was not available through 2016? Get your head out of your ass: quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx They're right in one respect, though. Homicides in the District didn't increase by 50% in 2015, they increased by 54%! The figure put out by the Trump campaign was actually slightly lower than the real increase. And by July of the campaign, the District's homicide count looked like 2016 was going to be another banner year. Which in fact it was: The murder rate didn't quite reach 2015's level, but it only fell off 17% from the previous year's bloody 54% rise. Here we can see the lie you are trying to tell. Here is d.c. crime rate for a 20 year period/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Washington,_D.C. I would ask what the 20-year trend has to do with anything, but you make that clear in your next comment. So for the present I'll just note that your link doesn't have the homicide data for 2015 and 2016, which are the subject of Wapo's spin and my response to it. The official source is here: D.C. Metropolitan Police Department quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx Journalism in this country is in the toilet. You failed to mention that d.c. is about 50% caucasian and that that shift in the demographic has been within the past five or so years. I'm sorry. Please allow me to correct my failure to mention race and the longer term homicide rates. The District lost its black majority in 2011 (see here). The homicide rate had been fairly constant from about 1999 through 2004. But coincident with a growing caucasian population, whether or not related, the homicide rate started to fall off in 2005, and by 2011 it had declined to less than half the 1999-2004 rate, where it stayed until the sudden 54% rise in 2015. The year 2015 had the highest homicide rate since 2008, and 2016 the highest since 2009. A freedom of information request seeking the race, age and gender of homicide victims showed 85 percent of all homicide victims were black and 91 percent were male, according to data available as of Dec. 9 from the Office of the Medical Examiner... There is one constant: location. Most of the homicides happen in Southeast or Northeast, in Wards 7 and 8... MPD Sergeant Delroy Burton, who is black and a 22-year veteran of the department, also heads the police union. What he sees is not a city overrun with violent crime: “We don’t have distributed homicides, we have concentrated homicides... “Most of the children that live in the community where all this violence is centered are raised in these places where there aren’t good examples of conflict resolution — it goes back to the environment they’re raised in. If you have that very very vicious, violent environment, and you see that, where you have an unstable family life yourself — physical, emotional, sexual abuse, or all three, and you see all kinds of violence all the time across the street … how are you going to turn out?” Burton said. ~Source Thanks for asking. K.

thompsonx -> RE: White House Agenda Mirrors Campaign Pledges (1/23/2017 8:02:28 AM)
ORIGINAL: Kirata ORIGINAL: thompsonx I'm sorry. Please allow me to correct my failure to mention race and the longer term homicide rates. The District lost its black majority in 2011 (see here). The homicide rate had been fairly constant from about 1999 through 2004. But coincident with a growing caucasian population, whether or not related, the homicide rate started to fall off in 2005, and by 2011 it had declined to less than half the 1999-2004 rate, where it stayed until the sudden 54% rise in 2015. The year 2015 had the highest homicide rate since 2008, and 2016 the highest since 2009. So what we have is a city with a declining homicide rate with a spike and trump points to the spike as if it were the average. It is countered with current facts to show it was a spike and not an average and you cry foul[8\|] A freedom of information request seeking the race, age and gender of homicide victims showed 85 percent of all homicide victims were black and 91 percent were male, according to data available as of Dec. 9 from the Office of the Medical Examiner... There is one constant: location. Most of the homicides happen in Southeast or Northeast, in Wards 7 and 8... MPD Sergeant Delroy Burton, who is black and a 22-year veteran of the department, also heads the police union. What he sees is not a city overrun with violent crime: “We don’t have distributed homicides, we have concentrated homicides... “Most of the children that live in the community where all this violence is centered are raised in these places where there aren’t good examples of conflict resolution — it goes back to the environment they’re raised in. If you have that very very vicious, violent environment, and you see that, where you have an unstable family life yourself — physical, emotional, sexual abuse, or all three, and you see all kinds of violence all the time across the street … how are you going to turn out?” Burton said. ~Source Why do you think that is?

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