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AtUrCervix -> RE: How true are these about men? (1/26/2017 6:39:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

A domestic worker only cost us SGD350 (USD 245) per month, for 24hrs x 6 days of their service. Full time, live in, domestic help.

How much does it cost in US for the same? With the illegals and legal?

Ours are all legals! They have work permits issued by the government. So we get Indonesians, Filipinos, Myanmar folks, Bangladeshi etc as domestic helpers. But they all come in legally and are also attend proper training program.


Well...actually (USD) a domestic worker, live in, would cost (in America)...closer to 5 grand a month.




AtUrCervix -> RE: How true are these about men? (1/26/2017 6:40:48 PM)


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Actually in my country, it's cheap to hire people to take care of our home that even basic salary people can afford it. But I thought hiring domestic help is something that only the very rich can afford in the US?


Illegal Mexicans make cheap home labor.



So do well paid (any agency).


Nope... not like illegal Mexicans. I could get a 5000 sq ft house cleaned for $50.


(I was kinda leaning towards what it costs here.....not on Saturn).




tamaka -> RE: How true are these about men? (1/26/2017 6:48:12 PM)


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There were 2 girls for 2 hours... so 4.

That's actually still kinda expensive compared to ours. That's what we pay for local part time domestic help by the hour. Foreign domestic help who we need to hire as full timers are just so much cheaper.

$50 x 5 days x 4 weeks = $1000 per month expense!

If someone makes only 30k per annum, it might be quite unaffordable.


I don't have a clue what full time would be.




Milesnmiles -> RE: How true are these about men? (1/26/2017 9:33:09 PM)


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You should have apologised to her and let her know that you think she was beautiful.
I would have if she would have let me within a 100 yards. She made it clear she didn't me even near her let alone talk to her.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: How true are these about men? (1/26/2017 10:53:33 PM)


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So, if you got a man who likes leaving his clothes lying everywhere. The solution is not to nag at him to please pick it up in the future or accusing him of disregarding her feelings, but to simply pick up his clothes and burn them? Wow! Really? Does that work? And he won't get mad?

No, the solution is to gather them up, run them through the laundry, fold them, and put them away.


You forgot to run the iron over them. ; )


I don't iron, I'm a wash and wear kind of girl.[:)]




Greta75 -> RE: How true are these about men? (1/26/2017 11:07:56 PM)


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You should have apologised to her and let her know that you think she was beautiful.
I would have if she would have let me within a 100 yards. She made it clear she didn't me even near her let alone talk to her.

Well, I guess it depends on how much she means to you. But I guess she was just a passing friend so you're just leaving it be.

But I think you would be doing her a very kind deed by cornering her and asking her to give you a chance to apologise as it bothered you that you hurt her feelings. Now she will always think, you think she was unattractive and feel hurt by it.




Greta75 -> RE: How true are these about men? (1/26/2017 11:10:09 PM)

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I don't iron, I'm a wash and wear kind of girl.[:)]

It's funny that, my x-husband did all the ironing. Well it was either him or, I outsourced ironing. They got services here where they come pick up your clothes and iron them and deliver them back to you. It was quite cheap. $1 per piece. Includes picking up and delivery to your door.

So we use that. I was just useless at ironing. I even took a class on how to iron. Like we get a part time domestic help in, and she can iron like maybe 10 pieces in an hour and they look perfect. I can only finish 3 pieces in an hour at best, not time efficent, and they usually still look crummy even though I really spent alot of time on it trying to take out the creases. There was my business long sleeves shirts and his business shirts to iron, so lots of ironing. And we both have business pants to iron too.

And my BFF now, who is male, is like the only man on earth that absolutely loves ironing. And you know a man loves ironing when he irons his business shirt before going to bed. And wakes up and iron it again when it was already done to perfection the night before. Just enjoying himself lol.




Milesnmiles -> RE: How true are these about men? (1/27/2017 3:32:01 AM)


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You should have apologised to her and let her know that you think she was beautiful.
I would have if she would have let me within a 100 yards. She made it clear she didn't me even near her let alone talk to her.

Well, I guess it depends on how much she means to you. But I guess she was just a passing friend so you're just leaving it be.

But I think you would be doing her a very kind deed by cornering her and asking her to give you a chance to apologise as it bothered you that you hurt her feelings. Now she will always think, you think she was unattractive and feel hurt by it.
Thanx for trying to help.

It was twenty five years ago.

I now live 2500 miles away from her.

You are not her, there are some people who look for insults in everything that is said, whether an insult was intended or not. You seem like someone who would listen and I would have talked to you about it.

There was list of rules for wives and one of the rules was; If I say something that could be taken two ways, I meant the thing that could be taken the good way.

Last, how in the world do talk to someone this sensitive about her weight, about not talking about her weight, without talking about her weight and further insulting her about her weight and causing her more pain and further damaging an already damaged relationship?

She is not going to hear my apology, all she is going to hear is; Honestly, I wasn't calling you a fat pig. How is that going to help?

At the time, my much younger self, thought it was best to just leave it alone and move on.




Greta75 -> RE: How true are these about men? (1/27/2017 4:32:37 AM)

If she was really overweight as you said, she might be very weight sensitive. And have probably also gotten fat shamed alot. And I can see what you said was really hurtful. Because by saying she can add her weight to help this situation. There is no nicer way to look at it.

But I know what you mean. I'm a woman too. And if there is something we are hyper sensitive about, it can be very difficult to convince us that you don't mean it in a nasty way. It would take alot of effort. My BFF just said something stupid the other day which pissed the shit out of me. And all he said was, "I retract my statement, I am very sorry, I am very very sorry." But he refused to explain what he meant by the statement, he just say, he withdraw his statement and does not want to explain it and he was more like, "Since I withdraw my statement, there is nothing to explain!". I had to remember about all the actions. I learn one thing about men. Forget about the words. I think almost all of them will say something that would make me jump at least a few times in their life. Look at the actions. My BFF have always demonstrated through actions how much he cared about me. So when he say careless words. I try to remember his actions.

If you told her you thought she was actually pretty in your eyes, she would hear that, I feel. She probably needed to hear that you think she is pretty despite of her weight. I think it would have gotten through to her.

But yea, it is too long ago to fix it now.

And to be honest, this applies to both men and women. It's more common for me to meet people who always form the worst conclusions than the best conclusions. Especially if you don't really know the person closely yet.

To me, that's just the way it is, most people don't really seem to think the best of everybody as a default.





Milesnmiles -> RE: How true are these about men? (1/27/2017 8:31:55 AM)

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If she was really overweight as you said, she might be very weight sensitive. And have probably also gotten fat shamed alot. And I can see what you said was really hurtful. Because by saying she can add her weight to help this situation. There is no nicer way to look at it.
She thought I was saying she was fat.

The thing is I would have said the same thing if she was 95 lbs. soaking wet.

We just needed a just little extra weight to counter balance the forklift.

I was just being inclusive and saying we needed a just little extra weight to counter balance the forklift, come and join the rest of us that are already on the forklift, that would have been a nicer way to look at it.




Milesnmiles -> RE: How true are these about men? (1/27/2017 8:46:23 AM)


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If you told her you thought she was actually pretty in your eyes, she would hear that, I feel. She probably needed to hear that you think she is pretty despite of her weight.
This what I was talking about; how do you tell a woman who is that sensitive over her weight that you think she's "pretty despite her weight"? All she is going to hear is you think she's pretty for being a fat pig, hardly a compliment.
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ORIGINAL: Greta75

And to be honest, this applies to both men and women. It's more common for me to meet people who always form the worst conclusions than the best conclusions. Especially if you don't really know the person closely yet.

To me, that's just the way it is, most people don't really seem to think the best of everybody as a default.
How true. I find myself doing it from time to time. But I work very hard at not doing it and if possible turning it into a joke we can both laugh at.

Like, you're ugly and your mother dresses you funny.
Yeah, how do like the selection she made for me today?
;-)




angelikaJ -> RE: How true are these about men? (1/27/2017 2:11:50 PM)


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If you told her you thought she was actually pretty in your eyes, she would hear that, I feel. She probably needed to hear that you think she is pretty despite of her weight.
This what I was talking about; how do you tell a woman who is that sensitive over her weight that you think she's "pretty despite her weight"? All she is going to hear is you think she's pretty for being a fat pig, hardly a compliment.



You tell her she is pretty and leave her any mention of her weight out of the compliment.




PeonForHer -> RE: How true are these about men? (1/27/2017 2:28:59 PM)

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You tell her she is pretty and leave her any mention of her weight out of the compliment.


Yep, yep. She is pretty - and that is that. The word 'despite', plus anything that comes after it, is superfluous to requirements.

This would be one of those situations where you 'go minimalist' with your complimenting.




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