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MrRodgers -> Here is another microcosm of the GOP (2/13/2017 2:37:57 PM)

Not only does the right try to push creationism bullshit into the schools as science.....

Not only has divine govt. (right wing) slowed scientific research into embryonic stem sells on religious [sic] grounds.....

But now the Tennessee GOP Lawker, Files Bill To Make Children Born Through Artificial Insemination Illegitimate.

These assholes never give up, do they.

HERE




bounty44 -> RE: Here is another microcosm of the GOP (2/13/2017 4:09:29 PM)

concerning the first line: atheists would simply just be tiresome of the also weren't so virulent and stupidly so.

second line: please do some actual broad reading on embyronic stem cell research as opposed to other sources and get back to be. in short, youre incredibly but not surprisingly naïve here.

as for the last:

"Contrary to Media Reports, Tenn. Bill Won't Label Insemination Babies 'Illegitimate,' Sponsor Says"

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A proposed bill in the Tennessee General Assembly will not de-legitimize a child conceived by artificial insemination, contrary to what media reports are saying, clarifies State Rep. Terri Lynn Weaver, a Republican and the bill's sponsor.

The bill, HB 1406, seeks to repeal the current statute, TCA Section 68-3-306, which states, "A child born to a married woman as a result of artificial insemination, with consent of the married woman's husband, is deemed to be the legitimate child of the husband and wife."

"There is much confusion concerning HB 1406," Weaver writes on her Facebook page.

Explaining the reason for the bill, she adds, "A couple of months ago, the state's Attorney General filed a brief in a lawsuit related to this statute TCA 68-3-306 in which he said that the law, as written and enacted, was unconstitutional. It is not unusual for the legislature to repeal a law that is unconstitutional."

There is another statute, TCA 36-2-304, which is still on the books that makes it clear that when a child is born to a married woman, the child is presumed to be that of her husband, she notes.

"So, the repeal of the law does not de-legitimize a child conceived by insemination and, to be honest, the law that will remain on the books is less intrusive into the relationship of a husband and wife than the statute being repealed. Unlike the law being repealed, the remaining law that will now govern the situation does not have the government inquiring into the means by which the couple's child came into existence or whose sperm, the husband's or a donor's, was used."...


Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/tennessee-bill-insemination-babies-illegitimate-hb1406-174827/print.html#yR16JMJt1tDgUK7A.99

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Rep. Terri Lynn Weaver, R-Lancaster, filed legislation late last week that would repeal a state statute that declares children conceived via artificial insemination as "legitimate," if they are born to a married woman and her consenting husband.

On Monday, she and Senate sponsor, Sen. Joey Hensley, R-Hohenwald, issued a joint statement after what they called "extremely inaccurate interpretations" of the bill portrayed by the media.

"These reports upset the many husbands and wives who struggle with fertility by reporting that repealing the law would ‘label the child as illegitimate despite the couple being married and both consenting.' This is false," Weaver said in the release.

“Under this legislation, Tennessee law would continue to provide that a child born to a married woman will be considered the child of her husband. By repealing the law, and relying on other Tennessee statutes that remain, the state will no longer intrude into how a woman conceives her child."


http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2017/02/13/tennessee-lawmaker-fights-backlash-against-artificial-insemination-bill/97851010/

so rather than a "microcosm" of the GOP, I see a prime example of a partisan hack (on all three accounts actually).




mnottertail -> RE: Here is another microcosm of the GOP (2/13/2017 4:25:14 PM)

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bounty44 -> RE: Here is another microcosm of the GOP (2/13/2017 4:40:08 PM)

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CreativeDominant -> RE: Here is another microcosm of the GOP (2/13/2017 4:45:15 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Not only does the right try to push creationism bullshit into the schools as science.....

Not only has divine govt. (right wing) slowed scientific research into embryonic stem sells on religious [sic] grounds.....

But now the Tennessee GOP Lawker, Files Bill To Make Children Born Through Artificial Insemination Illegitimate.

These assholes never give up, do they.

HERE

What should they give up? Repealing unnecessary laws that are confusing and unneeded? If they did, then the left wing heavy-breathing media couldn't fan flames, could they?




MrRodgers -> RE: Here is another microcosm of the GOP (2/13/2017 4:46:13 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

concerning the first line: atheists would simply just be tiresome of the also weren't so virulent.

second line: do some actual broad reading on embyronic stem cell research as opposed to other sources and get back to be. in short, youre incredibly but not surprisingly naïve here.

as for the last:

"Contrary to Media Reports, Tenn. Bill Won't Label Insemination Babies 'Illegitimate,' Sponsor Says"

quote:

A proposed bill in the Tennessee General Assembly will not de-legitimize a child conceived by artificial insemination, contrary to what media reports are saying, clarifies State Rep. Terri Lynn Weaver, a Republican and the bill's sponsor.

The bill, HB 1406, seeks to repeal the current statute, TCA Section 68-3-306, which states, "A child born to a married woman as a result of artificial insemination, with consent of the married woman's husband, is deemed to be the legitimate child of the husband and wife."

"There is much confusion concerning HB 1406," Weaver writes on her Facebook page.

Explaining the reason for the bill, she adds, "A couple of months ago, the state's Attorney General filed a brief in a lawsuit related to this statute TCA 68-3-306 in which he said that the law, as written and enacted, was unconstitutional. It is not unusual for the legislature to repeal a law that is unconstitutional."

There is another statute, TCA 36-2-304, which is still on the books that makes it clear that when a child is born to a married woman, the child is presumed to be that of her husband, she notes.

"So, the repeal of the law does not de-legitimize a child conceived by insemination and, to be honest, the law that will remain on the books is less intrusive into the relationship of a husband and wife than the statute being repealed. Unlike the law being repealed, the remaining law that will now govern the situation does not have the government inquiring into the means by which the couple's child came into existence or whose sperm, the husband's or a donor's, was used."...


Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/tennessee-bill-insemination-babies-illegitimate-hb1406-174827/print.html#yR16JMJt1tDgUK7A.99

so rather than a "microcosm" of the GOP, I see a prime example of a partisan hack.

First of all, in my life, quite the contrary, it has been the religious that have been virulent.

The Senate passed the first bill, 63-37, which would have made it legal for the Federal government to spend Federal money on embryonic stem cell research that uses embryos left over from in vitro fertilization procedures.[7] On July 19, 2006 President Bush vetoed this bill. The second bill makes it illegal to create, grow, and abort fetuses for research purposes. The third bill would encourage research that would isolate pluripotent, i.e., embryonic-like, stem cells without the destruction of human embryos.

During Bush's second term, in July 2006, he used his first Presidential veto on the Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act. The Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act was the name of two similar bills, and both were vetoed by President George W. Bush and were not enacted into law.

Obama in an EO allowed NIH and others funding for embryonic research. Suits were filed against and failed.

Since then:

Now, President 'elect' Donald Trump may curtail funding for embryonic stem cell research. Trump himself has said he opposes abortion, a related issue. (why am I not surprised ?) Tom Price, his nominee to head the Department of Health and Human Services, has opposed embryonic stem cell research on moral grounds because embryos are killed during production of the cell lines.

NOTE: What is used in research is a culture that consists of about 150 cells and in now way represents any viable chance for life. What is used, can't feel, has no circulation and is simply not and cannot ever be...a human being.

A bill filed by a Tennessee Republican aims to make children born through artificial insemination illegitimate.

WMC reported that state House Representative Terry Lynn Weaver is sponsoring HB 1406 to repeal Tennessee current statute, TCA 68-3-306, which declares that children born through artificial insemination are the "legitimate" child of the mother's husband.

The text of the new bill says it immediately "repeals statute that deems a child born to a married woman as a result of artificial insemination, with consent of the married woman's husband, to be the legitimate child of the husband and wife."

That means repeal the existing law making such a child...NO LONGER legitimate. NO spin allowed.




MrRodgers -> RE: Here is another microcosm of the GOP (2/13/2017 4:51:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant


quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Not only does the right try to push creationism bullshit into the schools as science.....

Not only has divine govt. (right wing) slowed scientific research into embryonic stem sells on religious [sic] grounds.....

But now the Tennessee GOP Lawker, Files Bill To Make Children Born Through Artificial Insemination Illegitimate.

These assholes never give up, do they.

HERE

What should they give up? Repealing unnecessary laws that are confusing and unneeded? If they did, then the left wing heavy-breathing media couldn't fan flames, could they?


Ok, point to me the legal status of those children then. If a statue was unnecessary if at all...why was it law ? Somebody and enough reps in Tenn. thought it was necessary.




tamaka -> RE: Here is another microcosm of the GOP (2/13/2017 5:04:50 PM)

Pretty soon they will start requiring dna testing of every child born and the designated father to prove legitimacy. Now that would be interesting.




mnottertail -> RE: Here is another microcosm of the GOP (2/13/2017 5:09:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

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tamaka -> RE: Here is another microcosm of the GOP (2/13/2017 5:26:49 PM)

Why? That's all we see from you all of the time. Seriously. That and your icon that looks like a housefly.




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