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Brintholsub1974 -> Does a sub deserve honesty? (2/15/2017 3:51:33 AM)
I have had quite a few experiences online so far with different mistresses and a few of them have gone wrong due to issues with trust. This may be partly due to my what I think of as healthy scepticism. My question is this although a Misstress is superior to her sub and may rightly feel she can use any tool requires to ensure her needs are met, is dishonesty viewed as an acceptable end to achieve her aims. Regards Brian

freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Does a sub deserve honesty? (2/15/2017 4:07:17 AM)
Simple answer: No.

LafayetteLady -> RE: Does a sub deserve honesty? (2/15/2017 7:06:52 AM)
No relationship can survive for long without people being honest with each other. It doesn't matter whether the people are kinky or not; honestly is always important.

OsideGirl -> RE: Does a sub deserve honesty? (2/15/2017 8:32:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Brintholsub1974 may rightly feel she can use any tool requires to ensure her needs are met Lying isn't a tool.

seekingreality -> RE: Does a sub deserve honesty? (2/15/2017 2:35:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Brintholsub1974 I have had quite a few experiences online so far with different mistresses and a few of them have gone wrong due to issues with trust. This may be partly due to my what I think of as healthy scepticism. My question is this although a Misstress is superior to her sub and may rightly feel she can use any tool requires to ensure her needs are met, is dishonesty viewed as an acceptable end to achieve her aims. Regards Brian I disagree with your whole attitude. Mistresses and subs aren't superior or inferior to each other. Ideally they provide something to each other based on mutual respect. Mistresses shouldn't use "any tool." A sub-dome relationship and any relationship has agreements and understanding. Most people, whether dominant or submissive, won't put up with dishonesty for long.

ResidentSadist -> RE: Does a sub deserve honesty? (2/15/2017 3:30:12 PM)
"Does a sub deserve honesty?" Depends... are they Republican or Democrat? Lately, it seems Democrats can't handle the truth. [:D]

bounty44 -> RE: Does a sub deserve honesty? (2/15/2017 4:00:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Brintholsub1974 I have had quite a few experiences online so far with different mistresses and a few of them have gone wrong due to issues with trust. This may be partly due to my what I think of as healthy scepticism. My question is this although a Misstress is superior to her sub and may rightly feel she can use any tool requires to ensure her needs are met, is dishonesty viewed as an acceptable end to achieve her aims. Regards Brian I typically don't wander much off the religious and political forums but this seems worth sharing. when I look at women's interests here and if I see "lives for" or "loves" or even "likes" "female superiority", I don't write. now maybe they mean it in a nuanced "top/bottom" "domme/sub" sort of way, but I doubt it. and anyone who has this sort of innate sense of superiority period, let alone one based solely on their gender, in my estimation, doesn't have the requisite character to have a successful relationship.

LadyConstanze -> RE: Does a sub deserve honesty? (2/15/2017 4:11:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: Brintholsub1974 I have had quite a few experiences online so far with different mistresses and a few of them have gone wrong due to issues with trust. This may be partly due to my what I think of as healthy scepticism. My question is this although a Misstress is superior to her sub and may rightly feel she can use any tool requires to ensure her needs are met, is dishonesty viewed as an acceptable end to achieve her aims. Regards Brian I typically don't wander much off the religious and political forums but this seems worth sharing. when I look at women's interests here and if I see "lives for" or "loves" or even "likes" "female superiority", I don't write. now maybe they mean it in a nuanced "top/bottom" "domme/sub" sort of way, but I doubt it. and anyone who has this sort of innate sense of superiority period, let alone one based solely on their gender, in my estimation, doesn't have the requisite character to have a successful relationship. No worries, once they discovered the "view forum posts" button, I doubt they will pester you with many mails, most dominants prefer an IQ above a garden tool

empressopium -> RE: Does a sub deserve honesty? (2/16/2017 3:39:11 AM)
Hi everyone, Bdsm is about adult consensual play. Which means that all boundaries is to be respected at all times, and yes boundaries can be pushed when a sub/ slaves is ready. 2. Trust and honesty are one of the most important thing in any form of relationships and especially in bdsm A sub is entitled to call for mercy of stop the play at any stage if he or she feels she no longer want it.

LisaSadistic -> RE: Does a sub deserve honesty? (2/19/2017 12:19:37 AM)
I have a hard time taking anything online seriously, which is why I don't play online. Of course the Internet is lying to you. That's what it does. But the answer to your question is no.

AbsoluteOverlord -> RE: Does a sub deserve honesty? (2/19/2017 12:59:10 AM)
Everyone we interact with deserves honesty. People lie out of fear. Why would a Master need to fear his property? And if he does who is really in control?

PantyhosedDomina -> RE: Does a sub deserve honesty? (2/19/2017 1:38:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Brintholsub1974 I have had quite a few experiences online so far with different mistresses and a few of them have gone wrong due to issues with trust. This may be partly due to my what I think of as healthy scepticism. My question is this although a Misstress is superior to her sub and may rightly feel she can use any tool requires to ensure her needs are met, is dishonesty viewed as an acceptable end to achieve her aims. Regards Brian Hello Brintholsub1974; I refuse to interface with anyone that is not honest. Integrity is everything in a relationship. If someone can lie to you they can cause you harm that you did not ask for and will watch it happen. Also it means that what they are expressing to you is not real and it can be that what you are investing in the relationship at a cost to yourself re time / energy / emotional currency etc is being exploited. It's not just "fun" lying and manipulating a person. The best submission is offered / given freely as a gift. No one should need to manipulate a sub into something. Personally I would not compromise and I will not interface with someone that lies to me - I cut them off like radio active waste and I would not lie to someone that I am meant to be close to.

PantyhosedDomina -> RE: Does a sub deserve honesty? (2/19/2017 1:42:05 AM)
[/quote] I disagree with your whole attitude. Mistresses and subs aren't superior or inferior to each other. Ideally they provide something to each other based on mutual respect. Mistresses shouldn't use "any tool." A sub-dome relationship and any relationship has agreements and understanding. Most people, whether dominant or submissive, won't put up with dishonesty for long. (in reply to Brintholsub1974) [/quote] Hello seekingreality. Very nicely said. I agree with you totally :)

DomMartinho -> RE: Does a sub deserve honesty? (2/19/2017 2:27:04 AM)
Honesty on collarspace..........really!! It doesn't matter if you're sub or Dom, I imagine every one of us has been lied to, If you picked a random 50 profiles, I would guess 10% of members are actually really looking for what they say, and are real. This is not the forum to discuss honesty!!

PantyhosedDomina -> RE: Does a sub deserve honesty? (2/19/2017 2:34:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomMartinho Honesty on collarspace..........really!! It doesn't matter if you're sub or Dom, I imagine every one of us has been lied to, If you picked a random 50 profiles, I would guess 10% of members are actually really looking for what they say, and are real. This is not the forum to discuss honesty!! People have liberty to discuss what they want to discuss in this forum. If you feel people should not discuss honesty here then go tell all the other people here including the discussion OP and not just me. Perhaps you have some means of stopping people discussing what they want to discuss.

JVoV -> RE: Does a sub deserve honesty? (2/19/2017 3:22:26 AM)
Pssst... unless someone quotes you, or directly responds to your post, they probably aren't aiming their comments at you. This forum just tags posts as 'In reply to' whoever posted last.

PantyhosedDomina -> RE: Does a sub deserve honesty? (2/19/2017 3:37:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV Pssst... unless someone quotes you, or directly responds to your post, they probably aren't aiming their comments at you. This forum just tags posts as 'In reply to' whoever posted last. Oops!! Thanks Mr JVoV. I did not know. Oops!! Sorry Mr DomMartinho. I did not know. No offence intended. I just wondered why you were targeting you're message to me with emphasis since I'm only adding to the discussion. Much apologies and Happy Sunday etc :)

heavyblinker -> RE: Does a sub deserve honesty? (2/19/2017 4:00:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze No worries, once they discovered the "view forum posts" button, I doubt they will pester you with many mails, most dominants prefer an IQ above a garden tool [:D]

thishereboi -> RE: Does a sub deserve honesty? (2/19/2017 4:13:10 AM)
I don't put up with dishonestly and I honestly don't care what they call themselves in order to justify it.

thishereboi -> RE: Does a sub deserve honesty? (2/19/2017 4:25:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze No worries, once they discovered the "view forum posts" button, I doubt they will pester you with many mails, most dominants prefer an IQ above a garden tool Just curious since you brought it up. How do you know what his IQ is? As far as I can see he has only made one post and his profile is hidden. So do you know him in real life or perhaps he goes under another name on here and you know what that is. Or perhaps you just really wanted to insult someone and you being...well you, didn't feel the need to wait for actual facts before spewing your hate.

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