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Mind Fuck? - 7/25/2006 1:26:53 PM   
MIslostsoul


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Status: offline 		Can anyone define the term MindFuck or Mind Fuck?

I once had a really bad experience where one of my greatest fears was used to scene and then was told it was a mind fuck.

My defination of a mind fuck is when one thinks it is one thing but it is really something else.

Example - You are blindfolded and sceneing  or sessioning with your Master you are really enjoying it and giving over to the sensation of it all. Suddenly you hear his voice in front of your face or your blindfold is removed and he is standing in front of you and you freeze because you are wondering whose attention you were enjoying. You feel embarrassed and worried if he will be disappointed in you.

it is a mind game more of less.

Am I incorrect in this.
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RE: Mind Fuck? - 7/25/2006 1:27:58 PM   
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RE: Mind Fuck? - 7/25/2006 1:32:05 PM   
crouchingtigress


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Status: offline 		using your greatest fear with out your consent is not a mind fuck, it is cruelty masquerading as play.
 
your definition *points down* however, is the classic definition of a mind fuck.


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ORIGINAL: MIslostsoulMy defination of a mind fuck is when one thinks it is one thing but it is really something else.

Example - You are blindfolded and sceneing  or sessioning with your Master you are really enjoying it and giving over to the sensation of it all. Suddenly you hear his voice in front of your face or your blindfold is removed and he is standing in front of you and you freeze because you are wondering whose attention you were enjoying. You feel embarrassed and worried if he will be disappointed in you.

it is a mind game more of less.

Am I incorrect in this.


< Message edited by crouchingtigress -- 7/25/2006 1:33:26 PM >

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RE: Mind Fuck? - 7/25/2006 2:14:53 PM   
juliaoceania


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Status: offline 		I have really only experienced one of these. I was tied hands over my head and standing, blindfolded, and being whipped on my rear and thighs, and then he turned me around and sensuously rubbed me up and down.. and then he slapped my face without me expecting it and cupped his hand to make a loud crack... it sounded louder than a tap and because of this i was unsure of exactly how hard he had hit me.. the sensory deprivation also intensified the feeling of being hit hard, when I was actually just tapped in the face without much force.. that is a mind fuck

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RE: Mind Fuck? - 7/25/2006 2:21:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		1.  a mind fuck, the act of having your reality twisted in a way that the perception of the moment is not what you expected.  for example, having a discussion on knife play and finding out it is ok, then a scene where are blindfolded and thinking it is the sharpest knife, only to find out that it was a butter knife.
 
2.  when you are having a converation about ideas that bring up a blue screen of death in your head.
 
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RE: Mind Fuck? - 7/25/2006 2:29:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		MMMM mindfucks but I do have to say that I've had a god mindfuck promised to me in the near future


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RE: Mind Fuck? - 7/25/2006 2:38:59 PM   
LadyRope


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Status: offline 		I loveeeee mind fucks,and yes you are very correct in your definition... I have never,ever let my boy know what I am up too,when enjoying playing with his mind,and I know that with my experience there was no cruelty involved,if there was I would be considered abusive and not a healthy dominant...I think way before someone enjoys such play,one would expect that the submissive/dominant would know who she/he was playing with,I would never be interested in someone who was adverse to me enjoying his mind as well as his body,with the understanding that I would always take care of his total being...heres a simple mind fuck thats really fun and anyone can do it with out much effort,maybe you have already experienced it......it always got the response I wanted...a large towel is placed on the floor and my boy is placed on his back onto the towel,I use a 4ft speader bar and attatch his ankels (I always use locking shackels)from the  middle of the spreader bar I attatch a thick piece of chain,about 5ft in length(depends on how  high your cielings are)I have an O ring attatchment (VERY IMPORTANT! this attatchment is very secure into a cieling beam,it is secure for up to 100 pnds,knowing this, it is NOT used for full suspenstion )to the cieling,my boy s bottom part of his body is hoisted so that I have easy access...at this time he is not blindfolded,(I prefer leather hoods)before I even begin the scene, I have thought it out in my head and have all the proper equipment needed to pull off the mind fuck handy,this would be,shaving foam,container with warm water,balloon,straight razor,leather strap,hood,and the piece de resistance,my pink daisy razor....after placing my boy where he is needed, I begin with preparring the shave,I pull out the straight razor,and the leather belt and begin to act as if I am sharppening the blade with back and forth strokes across the belt(you know),my boy is watching apprehensivly,lol,I throw comments out like,gee,its been a longgg time since I have enjoyed this razor...or dont flinch,if you move we might have an accident...however I do love the way blood looks when its spewing from a deep wound..LOL.....I then slowly blow up the balloon,cover half  in shaving foam,and proceed to shave the balloon,a practice run I call it,just to see how sharp the blade is..and of course after 3 or maybe 4 strokes taking off the foam perfectly,I intensionally break the balloon...I can feel the room tense up at this time and it almost makes me pee my pants,lol...I state out load that the blade is now as sharp and deadly as it can be,we will clean off every hair thats hidding..lol the talk is as important as the act,I think...before I begin to shave I put the hood on him,I then pull out my daisy...lol this is one of my favorites I was told about if from a pro domme friend but I added some of my own ,like the speader bar and hoisting him partly into the air...as well as the hood..the mind truely is a never ending house of joy...

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RE: Mind Fuck? - 7/25/2006 2:39:57 PM   
Tamerofwild1s


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Status: offline 		mind fucks are just a form of mental Sadism ... they can range thru all things . but taking someones fear and using it against them in a scene is NOT a mind fuck ... if I scene with you and then while your bond pull out a hammer and nail .. this is going to make you squirm with thinking I would do such a thing .I will intensify this by blindfolding you and whispering deep in your ear ... then I take the nail and press it againstyour nipple so you feel the point ... next thing you hear is a loud bang of a nail being driven into wood . when the blindfold is removed the nail is at least an inch away from your nipple . thats a sadistic mind fuck and I think I just made half the women reading this cringe and get wet at the same time ..... but it is the thought of doing someothing and building up the mental anticipation of doing with out really doing it . in no way should a mind fuck leave any permanent mental scaring .... another mind fuck can simply be building the sub or slave up withthoughts of what yourgoing to do with her in a scene . by the time she makes a drive over she is quivering with the anticipation of a hardcore session ... but you give her a rather easy session .... do you see the difference between a good mind fuck .. and someone mentally abusing you
 
 this obviously is just my opinion

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RE: Mind Fuck? - 7/25/2006 5:38:55 PM   
KittenInterruptd


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Status: offline 		I love a good mindfuck.  The idea behind it is to make you know that the Dominant has control of the situation and that you are just going to have to let go and trust him/her because there is nothing that you can do about it anyways... for example, LadyRope and TamerOfWild1s both told great examples of scenarios that they have used.  Both of these examples show a Dominant who is in control of the situation putting the submissive in a position where they are forced to let go and trust.

Using a true fear is never going to do this.

If my Master were to blindfold me and slide the edge of a credit card over my flesh telling me that it was a knife and to stay still or I would be cut, then I would (be tempted to move so I was cut..  but that's the blood slut in me talking) trust him and obey.  If he were to blindfold me and creep something across my flesh telling me that it was a spider then there is no way in hell that I would be able to stay still (I'm terrified of them), I would scream and cry and hyperventilate.. and probably wet myself all at the same time.  Aside from all of this happening right then and there, there would be no way in HELL that man would be tying and blindfolding me again after breaking my trust like that.

A true Master would never use such a petty trick because a true Master wants to foster trust and not destroy it.  He wants to own you totally and fully, and that means that he takes care of your fears, no matter how stupid they might seem.  He might see fit to address your fears and teach you to deal with them, but he would never use them as a weapon or abandon you to them.

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RE: Mind Fuck? - 7/25/2006 5:44:53 PM   
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RE: Mind Fuck? - 7/25/2006 5:48:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mind Fuck is basically anytime anyone fucks with your head - ie. deliberately saying or doing things you will find confusing or will in some other way find difficult to process mentally.

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RE: Mind Fuck? - 7/25/2006 8:34:55 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Status: offline 		To me a mind fuck is a scene where the bottom is dangled on that line of "He wouldn't, would he?" As long as that true seed of doubt is maintained within the scene, you've got a mind fuck going.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_258217/mpage_1/key_mind%252Cfucks/tm.htm#258236
Mind Games

The Ultimate Mind Fuck

Mind Fucks

Mind Fucks- Unhealthy or Simply Sadistic Play?

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