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Trump Scarps Obama climate policies - 3/28/2017 7:00:08 PM   
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President Donald Trump lying fuk has signed an executive order rolling back Obama-era rules aimed at curbing climate change.

The president said this would put an end to the "war on coal" and "job-killing regulations".
The Energy Independence Executive Order suspends more than half a dozen measures enacted by his predecessor, and boosts fossil fuels.

Business groups have praised the Trump administration's move but environmental campaigners have condemned it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39415631

Looking good Americashire jackals. Wonders what is next slavery? - well hes only done some of the swarthy darkies from uncivilised realms, and why stop at mother earth.
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RE: Trump Scarps Obama climate policies - 3/28/2017 7:24:14 PM   
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RE: Trump Scarps Obama climate policies - 3/28/2017 8:20:23 PM   
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he totally knows what he is saying - right?

Donald Trump has a lot of things to say about global warming. He's called it an urgent problem, and he's called it a hoax. He's claimed it's a scam invented by the Chinese, and he's denied that he ever said that. He's promised to "cancel" the historic Paris climate agreement, and he's said he still has an "open mind" on the matter.

12/6/09
Trump signs a letter calling for urgent climate action. As Grist reported earlier this year, Trump and three of his children signed a 2009 letter to President Barack Obama calling for a global climate deal. "We support your effort to ensure meaningful and effective measures to control climate change, an immediate challenge facing the United States and the world today," declared the letter, which was signed by dozens of business leaders and published as an ad in the New York Times. "If we fail to act now, it is scientifically irrefutable that there will be catastrophic and irreversible consequences for humanity and our planet."

2/14/10
Trump changes his mind, says Gore should be stripped of Nobel Prize because it's cold outside. According to the New York Post, Trump had changed his tune by early 2010, telling an audience at one of his golf clubs, "With the coldest winter ever recorded, with snow setting record levels up and down the coast, the Nobel committee should take the Nobel Prize back from Al Gore…Gore wants us to clean up our factories and plants in order to protect us from global warming, when China and other countries couldn't care less. It would make us totally noncompetitive in the manufacturing world, and China, Japan and India are laughing at America's stupidity." (He would later say he was joking about the Nobel Prize being rescinded.)

2/16/10
Trump claims scientists admitted global warming is a "con." Around this time, Trump caught wind of the so-called "ClimateGate scandal," in which climate deniers wrongly claimed a trove of hacked emails showed that scientists had conspired to fabricate evidence of global warming. Trump said (inaccurately) on Fox News that there was an email "sent a couple months ago by one of the leaders of global warming, the initiative…almost saying—I guess they're saying it's a con." He added that "in Washington, where I'm building a big development, nobody can move because we have 48 inches of snow."

1/6/12 (twitter)
"The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese."

12/6/13 (twat account again)
Trump declares global warming a "hoax." As an unusually powerful ice storm ripped through the southern part of the United States, Trump announced that climate change is a "hoax."
Ice storm rolls from Texas to Tennessee - I'm in Los Angeles and it's freezing. Global warming is a total, and very expensive, hoax!
We should be focused on magnificently clean and healthy air and not distracted by the expensive hoax that is global warming!

Jan. 2014
Trump says scientists are in on the hoax. On January 6, Trump went on Fox News to discuss a severe cold snap that set records across the country. "This winter is brutal," said Trump, adding that climate change is a "hoax" perpetrated by "scientists [who] are having a lot of fun." Trump kept up this line of argument throughout the long and miserable winter.

This very expensive GLOBAL WARMING bullshit has got to stop. Our planet is freezing, record low temps,and our GW scientists are stuck in ice
12:39 AM - 2 Jan 2014

NBC News just called it the great freeze - coldest weather in years. Is our country still spending money on the GLOBAL WARMING HOAX?
11:48 PM - 25 Jan 2014

Any and all weather events are used by the GLOBAL WARMING HOAXSTERS to justify higher taxes to save our planet! They don't believe it $$$$!
9:40 PM - 26 Jan 2014

The weather has been so cold for so long that the global warming HOAXSTERS were forced to change the name to climate change to keep $ flow!
6:36 AM - 29 Jan 2014

Snowing in Texas and Louisiana, record setting freezing temperatures throughout the country and beyond. Global warming is an expensive hoax!
6:27 AM - 29 Jan 2014


11/6/12
"The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese."

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12/6/13
Trump declares global warming a "hoax." As an unusually powerful ice storm ripped through the southern part of the United States, Trump announced that climate change is a "hoax."

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Ice storm rolls from Texas to Tennessee - I'm in Los Angeles and it's freezing. Global warming is a total, and very expensive, hoax!
3:13 PM - 6 Dec 2013
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We should be focused on magnificently clean and healthy air and not distracted by the expensive hoax that is global warming!
3:38 PM - 6 Dec 2013
431 431 Retweets 353 353 likes
Jan. 2014
Trump says scientists are in on the hoax. On January 6, Trump went on Fox News to discuss a severe cold snap that set records across the country. "This winter is brutal," said Trump, adding that climate change is a "hoax" perpetrated by "scientists [who] are having a lot of fun." Trump kept up this line of argument throughout the long and miserable winter.

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Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
This very expensive GLOBAL WARMING bullshit has got to stop. Our planet is freezing, record low temps,and our GW scientists are stuck in ice
12:39 AM - 2 Jan 2014
6,987 6,987 Retweets 4,507 4,507 likes
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NBC News just called it the great freeze - coldest weather in years. Is our country still spending money on the GLOBAL WARMING HOAX?
11:48 PM - 25 Jan 2014
2,190 2,190 Retweets 1,176 1,176 likes
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Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
Any and all weather events are used by the GLOBAL WARMING HOAXSTERS to justify higher taxes to save our planet! They don't believe it $$$$!
9:40 PM - 26 Jan 2014
752 752 Retweets 654 654 likes
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Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
The weather has been so cold for so long that the global warming HOAXSTERS were forced to change the name to climate change to keep $ flow!
6:36 AM - 29 Jan 2014
619 619 Retweets 422 422 likes
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Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
Snowing in Texas and Louisiana, record setting freezing temperatures throughout the country and beyond. Global warming is an expensive hoax!
6:27 AM - 29 Jan 2014
764 764 Retweets 787 787 likes
2014
Trump donates money to fight climate change. At some point in 2014, Trump donated $5,000 of his foundation's money to Protect Our Winters, an advocacy group dedicated to "mobilizing the outdoor sports community to lead the charge towards positive climate action." As the group's website explains, "If we're serious about slowing climate change, it's imperative that we decrease our dependence on fossil fuels and focus on cleaner sources of energy and electricity."

According to the New York Daily News, Trump made the donation at the request of Olympic snowboarding gold medalist Jamie Anderson, who was one of the contestants on Trump's Celebrity Apprentice reality show. Anderson was participating on behalf of Protect Our Winters, which, she said on the show, "brings light and inspiration to climate change." Still, Trump remained a climate change denier. During the season premier, which aired in early 2015, Trump suggested that New York's cold weather undermined Gilbert Gottfried's belief in climate science

6/17/15
Trump says it's "madness" to call climate change our "No. 1 problem." The day after announcing his candidacy for the GOP presidential nomination, Trump appeared on Sean Hannity's Fox News show, where he said he was "not a believer in man-made" warming. He added, "When I hear Obama saying that climate change is the No. 1 problem, it is just madness."

9/21/15
"I'm not a believer in man-made global warming." During the GOP primary race, Trump kept up his climate denial. Here he is on Hugh Hewitt's radio show: "I'm not a believer in man-made global warming. It could be warming, and it's going to start to cool at some point. And you know, in the early, in the 1920s, people talked about global cooling…They thought the Earth was cooling. Now, it's global warming…But the problem we have, and if you look at our energy costs, and all of the things that we're doing to solve a problem that I don't think in any major fashion exists."

12/1/15
Trump says it's "ridiculous" for Obama to pursue the Paris climate agreement. The long-anticipated Paris climate negotiations began barely two weeks after the city was struck by a devastating series of terrorist attacks. As the talks kicked off, Obama called the summit "an act of defiance" against terrorism and urged the world leaders gathered there to agree to an ambitious deal to combat global warming. Trump took to Instagram to express his disapproval. "While the world is in turmoil and falling apart in so many different ways—especially with ISIS—our president is worried about global warming," he said. "What a ridiculous situation."

12/30/15
"A lot of it's a hoax," and "I want to use hair spray." During a campaign speech in Hilton Head, South Carolina, Trump criticized Obama for worrying too much about "the carbon footprint" of the greenhouse gas emissions that are causing climate change—an issue that Trump proceeded to conflate with the hole in the ozone layer. "I want to use hair spray," complained Trump. "They say, 'Don't use hair spray, it's bad for the ozone.' So I'm sitting in this concealed apartment, this concealed unit…It's sealed, it's beautiful. I don't think anything gets out. And I'm not supposed to be using hair spray?" He then returned to the subject of the climate hoax: "So Obama's talking about all of this with the global warming and the—a lot of it's a hoax, it's a hoax. I mean, it's a money-making industry, okay? It's a hoax, a lot of it."



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Donald Trump has a lot of things to say about global warming. He's called it an urgent problem, and he's called it a hoax. He's claimed it's a scam invented by the Chinese, and he's denied that he ever said that. He's promised to "cancel" the historic Paris climate agreement, and he's said he still has an "open mind" on the matter.

Some environmental activists pointed to Trump's unpredictable statements as evidence that he might not follow through on his campaign pledges to dismantle the Obama administration's climate legacy. But just weeks after the 2016 election, one of his top aides assured Americans that Trump still believes climate science is mostly "bunk." And now Trump has signed an executive order rolling back key Obama-era limits on greenhouse gas emissions.

For those keeping score at home, here's a timeline of the Donald's thoughts and actions on global warming. We'll update it from time to time.

12/6/09letter
Read the full the letter at Grist.
Trump signs a letter calling for urgent climate action. As Grist reported earlier this year, Trump and three of his children signed a 2009 letter to President Barack Obama calling for a global climate deal. "We support your effort to ensure meaningful and effective measures to control climate change, an immediate challenge facing the United States and the world today," declared the letter, which was signed by dozens of business leaders and published as an ad in the New York Times. "If we fail to act now, it is scientifically irrefutable that there will be catastrophic and irreversible consequences for humanity and our planet."

2/14/10
Trump changes his mind, says Gore should be stripped of Nobel Prize because it's cold outside. According to the New York Post, Trump had changed his tune by early 2010, telling an audience at one of his golf clubs, "With the coldest winter ever recorded, with snow setting record levels up and down the coast, the Nobel committee should take the Nobel Prize back from Al Gore…Gore wants us to clean up our factories and plants in order to protect us from global warming, when China and other countries couldn't care less. It would make us totally noncompetitive in the manufacturing world, and China, Japan and India are laughing at America's stupidity." (He would later say he was joking about the Nobel Prize being rescinded.)

2/16/10
Trump claims scientists admitted global warming is a "con." Around this time, Trump caught wind of the so-called "ClimateGate scandal," in which climate deniers wrongly claimed a trove of hacked emails showed that scientists had conspired to fabricate evidence of global warming. Trump said (inaccurately) on Fox News that there was an email "sent a couple months ago by one of the leaders of global warming, the initiative…almost saying—I guess they're saying it's a con." He added that "in Washington, where I'm building a big development, nobody can move because we have 48 inches of snow."



11/6/12
"The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese."

Follow
Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.
7:15 PM - 6 Nov 2012
104,527 104,527 Retweets 67,096 67,096 likes
12/6/13
Trump declares global warming a "hoax." As an unusually powerful ice storm ripped through the southern part of the United States, Trump announced that climate change is a "hoax."

Follow
Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
Ice storm rolls from Texas to Tennessee - I'm in Los Angeles and it's freezing. Global warming is a total, and very expensive, hoax!
3:13 PM - 6 Dec 2013
4,396 4,396 Retweets 3,123 3,123 likes
Follow
Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
We should be focused on magnificently clean and healthy air and not distracted by the expensive hoax that is global warming!
3:38 PM - 6 Dec 2013
431 431 Retweets 353 353 likes
Jan. 2014
Trump says scientists are in on the hoax. On January 6, Trump went on Fox News to discuss a severe cold snap that set records across the country. "This winter is brutal," said Trump, adding that climate change is a "hoax" perpetrated by "scientists [who] are having a lot of fun." Trump kept up this line of argument throughout the long and miserable winter.

Follow
Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
This very expensive GLOBAL WARMING bullshit has got to stop. Our planet is freezing, record low temps,and our GW scientists are stuck in ice
12:39 AM - 2 Jan 2014
6,987 6,987 Retweets 4,507 4,507 likes
Follow
Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
NBC News just called it the great freeze - coldest weather in years. Is our country still spending money on the GLOBAL WARMING HOAX?
11:48 PM - 25 Jan 2014
2,190 2,190 Retweets 1,176 1,176 likes
Follow
Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
Any and all weather events are used by the GLOBAL WARMING HOAXSTERS to justify higher taxes to save our planet! They don't believe it $$$$!
9:40 PM - 26 Jan 2014
752 752 Retweets 654 654 likes
Follow
Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
The weather has been so cold for so long that the global warming HOAXSTERS were forced to change the name to climate change to keep $ flow!
6:36 AM - 29 Jan 2014
619 619 Retweets 422 422 likes
Follow
Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
Snowing in Texas and Louisiana, record setting freezing temperatures throughout the country and beyond. Global warming is an expensive hoax!
6:27 AM - 29 Jan 2014
764 764 Retweets 787 787 likes
2014
Trump donates money to fight climate change. At some point in 2014, Trump donated $5,000 of his foundation's money to Protect Our Winters, an advocacy group dedicated to "mobilizing the outdoor sports community to lead the charge towards positive climate action." As the group's website explains, "If we're serious about slowing climate change, it's imperative that we decrease our dependence on fossil fuels and focus on cleaner sources of energy and electricity."

According to the New York Daily News, Trump made the donation at the request of Olympic snowboarding gold medalist Jamie Anderson, who was one of the contestants on Trump's Celebrity Apprentice reality show. Anderson was participating on behalf of Protect Our Winters, which, she said on the show, "brings light and inspiration to climate change." Still, Trump remained a climate change denier. During the season premier, which aired in early 2015, Trump suggested that New York's cold weather undermined Gilbert Gottfried's belief in climate science:



6/17/15
Trump says it's "madness" to call climate change our "No. 1 problem." The day after announcing his candidacy for the GOP presidential nomination, Trump appeared on Sean Hannity's Fox News show, where he said he was "not a believer in man-made" warming. He added, "When I hear Obama saying that climate change is the No. 1 problem, it is just madness."

9/21/15
"I'm not a believer in man-made global warming." During the GOP primary race, Trump kept up his climate denial. Here he is on Hugh Hewitt's radio show: "I'm not a believer in man-made global warming. It could be warming, and it's going to start to cool at some point. And you know, in the early, in the 1920s, people talked about global cooling…They thought the Earth was cooling. Now, it's global warming…But the problem we have, and if you look at our energy costs, and all of the things that we're doing to solve a problem that I don't think in any major fashion exists."



12/1/15
Trump says it's "ridiculous" for Obama to pursue the Paris climate agreement. The long-anticipated Paris climate negotiations began barely two weeks after the city was struck by a devastating series of terrorist attacks. As the talks kicked off, Obama called the summit "an act of defiance" against terrorism and urged the world leaders gathered there to agree to an ambitious deal to combat global warming. Trump took to Instagram to express his disapproval. "While the world is in turmoil and falling apart in so many different ways—especially with ISIS—our president is worried about global warming," he said. "What a ridiculous situation."

12/30/15
"A lot of it's a hoax," and "I want to use hair spray." During a campaign speech in Hilton Head, South Carolina, Trump criticized Obama for worrying too much about "the carbon footprint" of the greenhouse gas emissions that are causing climate change—an issue that Trump proceeded to conflate with the hole in the ozone layer. "I want to use hair spray," complained Trump. "They say, 'Don't use hair spray, it's bad for the ozone.' So I'm sitting in this concealed apartment, this concealed unit…It's sealed, it's beautiful. I don't think anything gets out. And I'm not supposed to be using hair spray?" He then returned to the subject of the climate hoax: "So Obama's talking about all of this with the global warming and the—a lot of it's a hoax, it's a hoax. I mean, it's a money-making industry, okay? It's a hoax, a lot of it."



1/24/16
Trump says his claim that global warming is a Chinese hoax was a "joke." At a Democratic debate in January, Bernie Sanders criticized Trump, noting the real estate mogul "believes that climate change is a hoax invented by the Chinese." Trump responded the next day on Fox News, suggesting that his infamous 2012 tweet was a joke. "I think the climate change is just a very, very expensive form of tax," said Trump, according to PolitiFact. "A lot of people are making a lot of money…And I often joke that this is done for the benefit of China. Obviously, I joke. But this is done for the benefit of China, because China does not do anything to help climate change. They burn everything you could burn; they couldn't care less. They have very—you know, their standards are nothing. But they—in the meantime, they can undercut us on price. So it's very hard on our business."


May 2016
Trump wants to build a sea wall to protect his resort from global warming. Politico reported that one of Trump's golf clubs asked officials in County Clare, Ireland, to approve construction of a sea wall to guard against the dangers of sea level rise and "more frequent storm events." According to an environmental impact statement submitted with the application, "If the predictions of an increase in sea level rise as a result of global warming prove correct…it is likely that there will be a corresponding increase in coastal erosion rates…In our view, it could reasonably be expected that the rate of sea level rise might become twice of that presently occurring."


more fuking gibberish reams reams lets skip to 2017


1/20/17
White House climate website replaced with pledge to eliminate Obama's climate regulations. At the same time Trump was being sworn in as president, the White House website's climate page was replaced by Trump's "America First Energy Plan." It's normal for an incoming administration to replace its predecessors website. What was notable, however, was that Trump's plan made only one stray reference to climate change: "President Trump is committed to eliminating harmful and unnecessary policies such as the Climate Action Plan."

3/2/17
The New York Times reports that Trump advisers are "fiercely divided" on Paris agreement. On the campaign trail, Trump promised to "cancel" the Paris climate accords. But the Times reported that early in his presidency, key administration officials were split on the issue. According to the paper, chief White House strategist Steven Bannon was urging Trump to abandon the agreement. Meanwhile, Ivanka Trump and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson were pushing back, worried that "the move could have broad and damaging diplomatic ramifications."

3/15/17
Trump administration will revisit fuel standards. At an event in Detroit, Trump announced plans to reexamine the tougher fuel efficiency standards for vehicles enacted by the Obama administration.

3/16/17
Trump plans to cut to climate research because it's "a waste of your money." The Trump administration released a budget proposal that would wipe out $100 million in funding for the EPA's climate work, including scientific research and the Clean Power Plan. The plan would eliminate international climate aid and scale back NASA's earth science research. Asked about the cuts to climate science, White House budget director Mick Mulvaney responded, "I think the president was fairly straightforward: We're not spending money on that anymore; we consider that to be a waste of your money to go out and do that."

3/20/17
Trump pledges executive actions that will "save our coal industry." At a campaign-style rally in Louisville, Kentucky, Trump said: "We are going to put our coal miners back to work. They have not been treated well, but they're going to be treated well now. Clean coal, right? Clean coal…As we speak, we are preparing new executive actions to save our coal industry and to save our wonderful coal miners from continuing to be put out of work. The miners are coming back."

3/28/17
Trump signs executive order gutting many of Obama's climate policies, including the Clean Power Plan. Just days after the spectacular failure of his health care bill, Trump ordered his administration to revisit the Clean Power Plan, with the intention of gutting Obama's landmark restrictions on power plant emissions. Trump also reversed an Obama-era moratorium on new coal leases on public lands, directed his team to revise Obama's methane regulations, and instructed the EPA to ignore its current calculation of the cost of carbon pollution. Trump did leave the Paris agreement in place, at least for the time being.



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RE: Trump Scarps Obama climate policies - 3/30/2017 9:50:07 AM   
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he totally knows what he is saying - right?

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No ... he doesn't

he apparently just loves the sounds

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RE: Trump Scarps Obama climate policies - 3/30/2017 10:36:23 AM   
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I don't fucking care, we need money. We need at least some of that industry back.

Pollute your ass off, China does it. They are not on a different planet, and unless they play by the same rules it is wrong to cripple us. Trump may not be right for the right reasons, but he is right. Make it more attractive to start a business here. We cannot live as a nation of burger flippers and bankers. We need to produce something and for that we need energy. Bring on that pipeline.

Aren't you tired of paying companies that use slave labor to make shit, half of which was invented here ? Aren't you tired of needing two jobs and have to pay ten grand a year for healthcare and have a ten grand deductible ? They make a new TV in China for about a hundred bucks and charge you two grand for it, aren't you tired of that ? (and the thing is unrepairable so when it stops working pull out another two grand and buy a new one, and there is nobody to sue) We have no part of that market, we export bombs and jets. That is not a mass market, plus the fact we finance most of it for them, or actually just give it away. There is also competition in other countries and if our engineers keep fucking up we are going to lose ost of that market. How many F-35s you think they are going too actually sell for cash ?

But you can't tell them anything as long as they are milking the system. Through subsidies your tax dollars contribute to research into things that do not work. And then when they finally get some assholoes out there to buy this junk, do we get any of that money ? Fuck no. Just like natural resources, when they were fracking did anyone get a check ? Fuck no. There are countries where it is different. In one country instead of an electric bill you get a check from the electric company. And they have no such a Constitution like us. The PEOPLE who run things are different.

So drill baby drill. The environment will recover. There have been natural disasters that make anything we could do pale in compare. Like Krakatoa for example. Hurricanes wiping out arable land and creating deserts. The environment is more resilient than people think.

But as much as I would like clean air and water, we need money. We need alot of money. To do that we need to add value to something and to do that we need energy. Now, not in two decades when they finally come up with something to replace oil as an energy source. I do not deny global warming, but I do deny that there is anything significant we can do about it right now. So don't kill yourself over it. The solutions will come as technology advances. A big part of the solution will probably be solar. Other than that what are you gonna do ? Burn something else ? That doesn't help. We might as well use coal, how much worse is it than petroleum really ? What is the output compared to cubic foot of CO2 produced ? And really, does it matter ? We need what we need.

I am all for gutting some environmental shit. The EPA has fucked with people over draining a swamp, and actually they sent a nasty letter to someone who had a stream through his property demanding he remove a dam, THAT WAS BUILT BY BEAVERS.

They are out of hand, discouraging business ll over the place and hurting the country. This is not what Nixon envisioned when he created the EPA. I think it was more like not wanting to see rivers that burn.

I agree we need some law about this, but not the monster into which it has grown. I agree that you do not throw paint into the sewer, and used motor oil should go into places you want to defoliate. Doesn't work all that well, I have tried. But I did not throw it down the drain. If Trump wants to kill the monster fine. It has gotten out of hand.

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RE: Trump Scarps Obama climate policies - 3/30/2017 10:44:18 AM   
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Even Exxon is asking the trump to back off on on his EO



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RE: Trump Scarps Obama climate policies - 3/30/2017 10:48:24 AM   
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Are they worried that they won't be able to make the quota el presidente is setting for leakage and oil discharges?

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RE: Trump Scarps Obama climate policies - 3/30/2017 10:56:30 AM   
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well it will probably cost them money
saboteurs are cheaper
A nightmare waiting to happen.


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RE: Trump Scarps Obama climate policies - 3/30/2017 4:21:29 PM   
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Looking good Americashire jackals. Wonders what is next slavery?


Yes, we plan to start in June on a rotating monthly basis. The major social justice concern is whether whites should go first, or whether putting them first supports white privilege.
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Right?!?

The USA Today had an editorial regarding the rolling back of the CAFE standards. The overall gist of the editorial was that all the gains in gas mileage were going to be gone, and that the increase in more eco-friendly vehicles was going to stop and fall back. It completely ignores any demand consumers might have for more eco-friendly, or high mpg vehicles. It's as if these people are willing to be supply-siders as long as it fits their own agendas.


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RE: Trump Scarps Obama climate policies - 3/30/2017 4:24:02 PM   
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Demand for fuel efficient cars is flat, both electric and hybrid.

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RE: Trump Scarps Obama climate policies - 3/30/2017 4:34:34 PM   
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Demand for fuel efficient cars is flat, both electric and hybrid.


Limousine liberal limousines are in high demand though, right along with private jets for the elite "liberal" who is so much better than the little people who Obamas dictatorial rules were meant to control

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RE: Trump Scarps Obama climate policies - 3/30/2017 4:56:01 PM   
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Trump and his entourage travel to Florida in Teslas, do they?

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RE: Trump Scarps Obama climate policies - 3/30/2017 5:15:20 PM   
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Trump and his entourage travel to Florida in Teslas, do they?


Buy a clue dude

They're not the hypocrites demanding you drive a microminimobile, or ride in a high voltage and hydrogen gas death trap


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RE: Trump Scarps Obama climate policies - 3/30/2017 5:25:13 PM   
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...and then, "liberals" are against mining and refining toxic metals, so where are all of the components for electric cars supposed to come from.

You must really love the Russians and the Chinese

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RE: Trump Scarps Obama climate policies - 3/30/2017 5:55:14 PM   
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I don't know if what im about to say covers everything, but I recently heard on fox (oh no comrades!) that the order trump signed addresses issues that have essentially been on hold waiting to wind their way through the courts. that is, whatever it is he is "rolling back" hadn't been fully implemented yet.

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RE: Trump Scarps Obama climate policies - 3/30/2017 8:47:08 PM   
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including approving a drug that kills children, I guess its all a matter of timing to the babykiller nutsuckers.

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RE: Trump Scarps Obama climate policies - 3/31/2017 12:29:35 AM   
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Pollute your ass off, China does it. They are not on a different planet, and unless they play by the same rules it is wrong to cripple us. Trump may not be right for the right reasons, but he is right. Make it more attractive to start a business here. We cannot live as a nation of burger flippers and bankers. We need to produce something and for that we need energy. Bring on that pipeline.


I think we should put the unregulated industries and coal plants next to your house. That way, everyone will want to live there so they can have a good job, and your house will go up in value.

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RE: Trump Scarps Obama climate policies - 3/31/2017 12:35:41 AM   
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I wish President Trump would stop "scarping" things. It's a really disgusting habit.



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RE: Trump Scarps Obama climate policies - 3/31/2017 7:12:58 PM   
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Demand for fuel efficient cars is flat, both electric and hybrid.


Flat demand means jack shit. Is demand going to disappear if CAFE standards are rolled back? Are auto makers going to stop researching and developing eco-friendly drivetrains and engines/motors?


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