MrRodgers
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Adam Kinzinger: at the white house.....
In this meeting, I found the president willing to listen to the concerns of House members. He made every effort to see what, if anything, could be done to resolve differences. I witnessed a vice president who deeply understood the dynamics of this Congress and the traps that existed there. You give a concession in one area, and you may lose supporters in another, which certainly became the case. The sausage-making process of legislating is often ridiculed, but it is far preferable to a system where one man dictates his will.
This is why the legislation collapsed: In exchange for their votes on the replacement plan, the members of the Freedom Caucus wanted reductions in essential health benefits. President Trump agreed in good faith. Some more-moderate Republican members struggled to accept these changes. Yet even knowing that some yes votes had turned to no, the conference went to bed on Thursday thinking that we would vote the next day. To our dismay (but not to my surprise), the concessions were not enough to get the Freedom Caucus on board, as usual.
Two days later, many wondered if whether the members were on board. They were not, and they had new demands to share with the news media. Those demands included rescinding Title 1 regulations, which include protections for people with pre-existing conditions and allow young adults to stay on their parents’ health plans until the age of 26. The president, and many of us, had promised to protect these two key provisions.
The Freedom Caucus fully understood that its last-minute demands would doom the bill. The vote was going to fail.
History:
In 2013, a group of conservatives who later became part of the Freedom Caucus won major concessions on the farm bill, and then still voted against it.
In 2015, the caucus made demands for a free-trade bill that were clearly intended to kill the legislation. (this time) Their demands were not met and the bill passed without their support.
It’s what they do: They move the goal posts, and once that happens, they still refuse to play.
Ted Poe, a Texas Republican who resigned from the caucus after the health care debacle, “Sometimes you’re going to have to say yes.” It is my sincere hope that many in the Freedom Caucus take his words to heart.
This bill was our chance to repeal Obamacare and alleviate the burdens of a failing insurance system.
Adam Kinzinger is a Republican representative from Illinois and a major in the Air National Guard.
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The real truth:
The bold therein...lies the fallacy. There will always be burdens in the provision of health care, and the system will never 'fail' but just be applied or be used in differing circumstances. There will always be health care, paid for by somebody.
The will be a medical (health care) supply, provision and insurance 'system.' There always will be.
Being in the health care market is like breathing air...either you are breathing or you are not.
The so-called crumbling or failures of Obamacare were non-existent and were brought to you by this marketplace, whether you like it or not. Whether you are right or left, dem or repub, conservative or libderal, you are in...the health care marketplace. The only question is, how much does the insured pay...and by whom or if not insured...by whom.
At some point in time healthy or sick, old or young, you will need 'health care' that is simply provided in differing forms and either paid for by the patient's insurance or other's insurance.
One can call it whatever they want....patient care, preventive care, prenatal care, long term care, emergency care or Medi-care there was, is, will always be...some type of care.
So if you are breathing, we hope the best for you, if you are not, then may your soul...rest in peace.
< Message edited by MrRodgers -- 4/1/2017 11:17:20 AM >
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