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RE: Question about following extreme rules - 12/4/2017 3:44:45 PM   
NoirMetal


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My experience is that someone who is that much into micromanagement has mental issues.

Usually from extremes of insecurity and a ton of negative baggage. Not dating crazy people is a thing to do.

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RE: Question about following extreme rules - 12/4/2017 4:04:05 PM   
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The problem with these kinds is the need to tear down to build up the self image. Which is weak.

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RE: Question about following extreme rules - 12/4/2017 7:39:11 PM   
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I didn’t get that. What I got is that it’s not something he has any real life experience with and thisstuff done online makes him hot.

In real life, her developing bladder infections from being forbidden to urinate would not be hot.

Her turning blue and being angry and miserable would not be hot.

But since he isn’t being confronted with real life consequences, he can continue to jerk off peacefully.

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RE: Question about following extreme rules - 12/5/2017 4:40:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: pigslutmags

I know as a slave I need to put his needs first and obey without question or even thinking and and what I want is not supposed to matter but some of the rules take me so far outside of who I am as a vanilla person that I’m really struggling. He has given me some rules that I can completely follow for periods of time but am having a hard time following them endlessly 24/7. I have tried to negotiate some compromises but so far he has not been receptive.


You will encounter varying perspectives as each relationship differs as do the levels of control granted and ceded by the slave. I’m not going to address him. Others have done that. But I will call attention to something you’ve said more than once. I’ve highlighted it for your benefit.

You have identified yourself as a vanilla individual. Understandably so. But you’re embarking upon a different road which does not include the same behaviors or expectations. Think about a graduation. The high school student has completed his path and college awaits. But none who cross its thresholds maintain their former identify. All describe themselves as college students. The former way is no more. They have moved to something else and identify with that change in mind.

This is a bit more challenging. The activities are meant to bridge the gap of autonomy you’ve once known and the restrictions you’re now accepting. I have no judgment of what you’ve been asked to do. I’m simply relaying the premise instead. The ideal is to begin to see yourself through his eyes with the reinforcement he provides that solidifies your state and deepens your captivity.

Given your beliefs about obedience and where his needs stand in contradiction to your own, I am not surprised by your struggles nor your inability to maintain what he’s asked without fail. It was bound to happen at some point. The bigger question is whether the absolutes you have mentioned is your perception or what he has indicated himself. In other words, does he expect this from you or do you desire to serve him in this way?

I can tell you what I’ve experienced and hope you will glean from my words for your benefit. Slavery is both a state of mind and being. It is the awareness, presence, and attentiveness that evokes the 24/7 many speak of. It would be impossible to fully engage at all hours and lead a productive life in tandem. But when she maintains the realization of her condition (by staying plugged into him so to speak), the yoke grows ever tighter and the descent profound deepens as he takes greater liberties and freedoms. There will be resistance, reactance, and sometimes resentment for what she has become.

If you try to do everything at once you will drown. But if you view each request as a means to an end—one which he sets and you agree to follow—you will find joy in its outcome. That does not imply that every task will be enjoyable or desired for that matter. But what it suggests is your continued ratification of your station through the willing obedience and subjugation of yourself to him.

Every act of obedience is but a resounding yes. His will; your fate. That’s the formula.

This does not dispense with compromise but it does put forth that each alteration will be filtered through the vision he’s set and the course he desires you both to take. He may hear your input but its implementation is his to decide. That is the liberty you have forsaken in deference to him. Serve well.

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RE: Question about following extreme rules - 12/5/2017 6:57:09 AM   
Greta75


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ORIGINAL: kiwisub22
There was never any of the "butt plug in at work" nonsense, which to me works better on film than in reality.

This thread is so old, but looking at this comment and what I know now. I mean, I got to know a woman who does not have a master, but actually does wear a butt plug to work everyday by her own self voluntarily, because it makes her feel good.

And no matter how outrageous a demand may seem and unrealistic for most regular women.

There will always be somehow someone out there who can actually love it. The real difficulty is fate helping you to meet that person who blends with you perfectly.

There are some protocol in my old relationship that I have seen people wrote on here that is unrealistic and just a porn dream or whatever. Yet we lived it daily joyfully because we both enjoyed it and never broke protocol. Which includes bed time at 10pm sharp and waking up at 4am sharp everyday wake my master up with a blowjob, and things like that, doesn't matter if my job only starts at 12pm and ends at 8pm then. I never broke protocol because, I enjoyed it. That's why I was so motivated to religiously follow it. It was what I dream about and what I wanted and I found a man who wanted the same things too back then and executed it for me.

I guess in a way, my ex wasn't making me do anything I didn't want to do.

But if a dominant is forcing a sub to do stuffs she doesn't really wanna do, that's when it becomes hard to keep to it. Because she doesn't enjoy doing it.

Honestly, if you enjoy doing something, it is easy. If you find it troublesome. You'd hate it and find it a pain to follow. No right or wrong way. Only compatibility. And whether the style of dominance is suitable for you.

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RE: Question about following extreme rules - 12/5/2017 7:13:02 AM   
Greta75


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ORIGINAL: NoirMetal

My experience is that someone who is that much into micromanagement has mental issues.

Usually from extremes of insecurity and a ton of negative baggage. Not dating crazy people is a thing to do.


Micro-Management is alot of work and takes dedication and lots of time and effort to enforce and ensure everything gets done exactly and correctly.

I don't really see it as a mental problem. It's actually very hardworking. And few dominants would even want to put in THAT MUCH effort.

Most dominants really just want to get off, play a little what they enjoy and that's it without making her feel like he completely owned every part of her life, every aspect of her.

But end of the day, it's about compatibility. Not every sub wants micro-management. As they may feel it's too intense and too much and they need some breathing space.

And some absolutely love the devotion of it. Micro-Management really takes compatibility though. Just like even management at work. Some bosses you really can't stand his system and working under him. Some bosses, you absolutely love his system because it mesh with your work flow. It's kinda the same thing.

If as a sub, you already feel you want to be managed on "these areas" and you meet someone who enjoys doing that. It's a damn happy match.

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RE: Question about following extreme rules - 12/5/2017 10:46:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: longwayhome

Being a slave is a fantasy, nothing wrong with that, but you wouldn't choose to be a slave to someone who cut off one of your fingers every month, so nothing is unlimited.

There is a very practical consideration here. If you can do the stuff he wants that is great, but if you genuinely can't and you are not just being bratty, then it should give you serious pause for thought.


These are two very good points for you to ponder.

If you genuinely are having problems fulfilling what he is asking for, it's time to have a good heart to heart talk. It destroys a person to go through life set up to fail.


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RE: Question about following extreme rules - 12/5/2017 12:23:22 PM   
porcelaine


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

I mean, I got to know a woman who does not have a master, but actually does wear a butt plug to work everyday by her own self voluntarily, because it makes her feel good.

And no matter how outrageous a demand may seem and unrealistic for most regular women.

There will always be somehow someone out there who can actually love it. The real difficulty is fate helping you to meet that person who blends with you perfectly.


Exactly. I know several women who have trained themselves anally with plugs to be more open to their partners and they wear them everyday. I don’t think there are many outrageous demands. It’s really a matter of fit and will. The more the two elements are aligned the more probable her compliance will occur.

~porcelaine

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RE: Question about following extreme rules - 12/15/2017 11:44:34 AM   
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Oh that one is easy: If you agreed to do it then do it, if you didn't then fuck it do or don't at your whim.

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RE: Question about following extreme rules - 12/16/2017 6:22:54 PM   
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Never mind, trying to talk sense to you is a waste of time.

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