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Tributes etc. - 4/10/2017 10:26:16 PM   
Gravy1584


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Hello mistress' , dommes.

My fetish is for online play. I like women that enjoy making me do things to myself on cam. Penetrating, tie, chastity, cum control etc. But I am constantly getting asked to tribute or pay etc etc. I do this for mutual fun. I offer my body on cam for control. Why do all off the "mistress' " here seem to want to dive directly in your wallet. I never ask to see the other person naked or anything just like them to be on the other end so I know they are real, and they are really a woman.

I am being to confining / controlling to be a sub?
Or is there just slit of women claiming to be dommes but just want money.

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RE: Tributes etc. - 4/11/2017 10:06:00 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Gravy1584

Hello mistress' , dommes.

My fetish is for online play. I like women that enjoy making me do things to myself on cam. Penetrating, tie, chastity, cum control etc. But I am constantly getting asked to tribute or pay etc etc. I do this for mutual fun. I offer my body on cam for control. Why do all off the "mistress' " here seem to want to dive directly in your wallet. I never ask to see the other person naked or anything just like them to be on the other end so I know they are real, and they are really a woman.

I am being to confining / controlling to be a sub?
Or is there just slit of women claiming to be dommes but just want money.



OK, you want a woman to tell you what to do and spend her time watching you. I'm sorry, but this is about YOU, there is nothing in it for her, it doesn't appeal, so the ones that are willing to endure it want to be compensated.

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RE: Tributes etc. - 4/12/2017 7:32:19 AM   
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I agree with Lady C. I am not a Pro-Domme, I would not want anything to do with you. It is all about you.

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RE: Tributes etc. - 4/12/2017 12:12:32 PM   
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What you want is of no interest to a Domme/Mistress. This may burst your bubble, but we are not YOUR fetish delivery system. If you want your fetish fulfilled then be prepared to pay for it. You have nothing to offer as a sub/slave to those of us who actually partake of the dynamic in real life.

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RE: Tributes etc. - 4/13/2017 11:45:22 AM   
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At a rough guess there are maybe 170 million women in the United States and say half of them, just for the sake of discussion, are under 18 years if age. That leaves about 85 million adult women. How many of them do you suppose would like to watch you do shit on Skype for your own funnsies? I would guess maybe 3. Good luck finding them.

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RE: Tributes etc. - 4/15/2017 8:16:56 AM   
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Let's be fair for the sake of argument and say that your interests do have an audience, or matching group of some sort. Leave aside all the self-absorbed comments for the moment. And leaving aside the scammers and what have you, which statistically, you probably have met one or two...

Floating as a possibility; the micro-management you desire, that which has no tangible benefit to HER beyond giving one of the five commands you're actually WILLING to perform (don't say "anything", trust me, I know better), probably also encompasses women who are just into that sort of power dynamic. I'd wager the overlap is significant, because a woman who might actually enjoy that sort of micro-management, borderline tedious control, probably likes that to apply to all segments of your interactions, and it might be something you have to come to terms with if you want to pursue these casual encounters.

The fact you seem to have dismissed this as a possibility, of course, should lend some weight to previous comments about you being a little too self-involved for the preponderance of dominant women. At which point honestly evaluate yourself as a sexual object and ask how many women will be attracted to you enough to do whatever you want?

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RE: Tributes etc. - 4/15/2017 8:37:12 PM   
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I think the point of me generalising may of been missed somewhat. What I am willing to perform has been generalised in my op. every sub or slave is here to find a domne / mistress for their own personal satisfaction because they enjoy being controlled. It's a selfless yet selfish act. Otherwise it would be mooronic being here in the first instance.

I'm happy to do many things more the quoted. But why will dommes not verify how genuine they are? Why must it always be the sub? I understand the sub is the lesser of the relationship. But surely the sub has the right to know the perso he is performing for online is actually really a woman, and a woman who is enjoying it for way it is. Not just enduring it for the $$$ like a glorified whore.

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RE: Tributes etc. - 4/15/2017 10:52:58 PM   
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You're not getting it.

The problem is that most women aren't interested in 'random dude on the net' "performing" for them. That's why the market was created in the first place. You think rubbing one out is just fascinating, but most women couldn't care less and that's why compensation for their time comes into it. You engaging in self-gratification is about as interesting to most women as watching their nails dry.

If you were involved with a particular women, this is different.

If what you were offering were hard to come by, this might be different.

If the majority of women were enticed by visual stimulation in the same way men are, this might be different.

Due to these and other factors, your target audience just isn't really... An audience.


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RE: Tributes etc. - 4/15/2017 11:13:43 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

You're not getting it.

The problem is that most women aren't interested in 'random dude on the net' "performing" for them. That's why the market was created in the first place. You think rubbing one out is just fascinating, but most women couldn't care less and that's why compensation for their time comes into it. You engaging in self-gratification is about as interesting to most women as watching their nails dry.

If you were involved with a particular women, this is different.

If what you were offering were hard to come by, this might be different.

If the majority of women were enticed by visual stimulation in the same way men are, this might be different.

Due to these and other factors, your target audience just isn't really... An audience.


It's true. Women are more interested with someone polite who expresses an interest in things they enjoy. Without too much in the way of an expectation of reciprocity.

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RE: Tributes etc. - 4/15/2017 11:33:21 PM   
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Want to know the funny thing? I really am sitting here 'watching paint dry'.

Happy Easter (and Easter Eggs).


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RE: Tributes etc. - 4/18/2017 9:27:17 AM   
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haha that was classic

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RE: Tributes etc. - 4/18/2017 5:52:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Gravy1584

Hello mistress' , dommes.

My fetish is for online play. I like women that enjoy making me do things to myself on cam. Penetrating, tie, chastity, cum control etc.


("Cowgirl up").

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RE: Tributes etc. - 4/30/2017 12:23:01 PM   
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I love playing with my submissives online and i do really enjoy what they do - can't stop laughing all day even memorizing that. So there is a public that will be interested in your performance. Well, I could have done it for free, but I have no time. In our world each minute costs some. Why they should pick you, if there is a line to pay for online play? We are all humans, some of us have regular jobs and business. And look at it different way. She's watchin You making You feel good, so why not make her feel good tributing her?

Have fun!

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RE: Tributes etc. - 4/30/2017 1:18:36 PM   
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Not just enduring it for the $$$ like a glorified whore.


I'm sure if you found someone who actually cared about your happiness, they might endure it for that reason... but you seem to be looking for someone who will, in an NSA capacity, fulfill your fantasies because their fantasies perfectly compliment them.

So ask yourself how likely is it that someone out there gets off on seeing some strange guy do what you enjoy doing while pretending that they are the ones in control... to the point where they wouldn't want you to pay them for it, even though they know there are a lot of other guys out there who would.

I agree that pro-dommes are essentially whores, but they also don't have to actually have sex with anyone, so it's probably the easiest, least stigmatized and most shame-and-guilt-free kind of whore to be. It's not like a nasty label is going to stop them from 'demanding tribute' from their 'slaves'.

If you've had success finding others who are willing to watch you for free, maybe trying begging them to take you back or something.

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RE: Tributes etc. - 4/30/2017 4:55:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: vincentML

At a rough guess there are maybe 170 million women in the United States and say half of them, just for the sake of discussion, are under 18 years if age. That leaves about 85 million adult women. How many of them do you suppose would like to watch you do shit on Skype for your own funnsies? I would guess maybe 3. Good luck finding them.


I've done the math.

Please allow me....

There are (exactly) 800,270,191 sub males to EVERY Domme...which then, when you do the (actual) math....leaves 9 Dommes....ergo....unless India or China increase their growth rate over the next 10 years....

(Hold on...one sec....add 17....divide by 23....multiply by the number of....well....let's just say....).....................

You're fucked dude.

(It's kinda like the whole chic to dude ratio...only worse...here's how it works: 1 to 1....average chic to average guy....male sub to average chic who might find that kinda fun....1 to 10....1 to 30...something like that....but...when you figure the whole chic to dude ratio...here's how it works...THEY own the game...so...any ratios...don't mean shit! DUDE!!!).

There ya have it...I'm here to tell ya.....a man that lives on math (that would be moi).....chics win.

DONE.

OVER.

(Next?)

Questions?

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RE: Tributes etc. - 4/30/2017 7:06:39 PM   
MissKatya


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Gravy1584

Hello mistress' , dommes.

My fetish is for online play. I like women that enjoy making me do things to myself on cam. Penetrating, tie, chastity, cum control etc. But I am constantly getting asked to tribute or pay etc etc. I do this for mutual fun. I offer my body on cam for control. Why do all off the "mistress' " here seem to want to dive directly in your wallet. I never ask to see the other person naked or anything just like them to be on the other end so I know they are real, and they are really a woman.

I am being to confining / controlling to be a sub?
Or is there just slit of women claiming to be dommes but just want money.



Oooh....my turn to answer!

So, as I am sure you have figured out-my answer is going to be the same as every other Dominant woman who has answered on this thread-this is catering ONLY to your needs and offers nothing for the Domme.

But for shits and giggles, I want to respond in detail to a few key comments.


Hello mistress' , dommes.

quote:

My fetish is for online play. I like women that enjoy making me do things to myself on cam. Penetrating, tie, chastity, cum control etc. But I am constantly getting asked to tribute or pay etc etc. I do this for mutual fun.


Here is the problem-it's not mutual fun. This what YOU want to do. While it's nice to stay positive and think that someone is out there who is willing to reciprocate, you are seeking the holy grail of online kink-a male submissive with nothing to offer other than their kinks, looking for a woman to take the time to watch them do it. You are looking for a specific yet tiny demographic.

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I offer my body on cam for control. Why do all off the "mistress' " here seem to want to dive directly in your wallet.


Simple answer-because it gives us nothing in return. Money is the great equalizer. It leverages the playing ground. You are asking a woman to take time out of her day to watch you perform on camera under the guise of "her controlling you" when in reality, we aren't "controlling" you. We're watching you do things that you already wanted to do to yourself, on cam. I'm going to save my whole speech on how the whole "I offer my body on cam for you, Mistress" is just flat out male entitlement...that's for another thread.

But also, many of us already play in real-time. With that being said, why would I want to take time to watch some random guy pleasure himself when I can feel real flesh under my hand and servitude at my approval and discretion?

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I never ask to see the other person naked or anything just like them to be on the other end so I know they are real, and they are really a woman.


Doesn't matter if they want to go on cam wearing only cabbage leaves. It's taking time from someone's life to meet your needs.

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I am being to confining / controlling to be a sub?


The common term is "topping from the bottom" but honestly, you aren't a sub or submissive. Your fetish is being told what to do but that's about it. Everything else about you is about your needs.

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Or is there just slit of women claiming to be dommes but just want money.


If a random stranger asked me to take time from my life to pay attention to them and watch them do things that I have no desire to engage in, you bet your sweet ass I am going to ask to be paid. Instead, I'll go play with someone who I share mutual interests with and enjoy their company.


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I think the point of me generalising may of been missed somewhat. What I am willing to perform has been generalised in my op.


I looked at your profile and I stand behind my above comment. Your "submission" is one-sided and only caters to your needs. I know very, very, very few women who truly enjoy pegging on a personal level and when they do-it's with some one the are either intimate with or comfortable with.

And while I do enjoy chastity play with my subs-it's only in real time and in conjunction with other interests. In other words, it's not even a focus of play-merely a basic requirement in serving.

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every sub or slave is here to find a domne / mistress for their own personal satisfaction because they enjoy being controlled. It's a selfless yet selfish act. Otherwise it would be mooronic being here in the first instance.


Yes and no. This type of thinking is the problem. Yes. The goal is to find a Mistress (or sub) that meets one's needs however there is an understanding that mutual interests need to be met. Key word that you keep missing here....MUTUAL. If you have nothing to offer, then you have nothing to gain. Just like you don't want to pay for play, I don't want to give up my personal time for someone who can't make it worth my while.

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I'm happy to do many things more the quoted.


Than state that in your profile.

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But why will dommes not verify how genuine they are? Why must it always be the sub? I understand the sub is the lesser of the relationship. But surely the sub has the right to know the perso he is performing for online is actually really a woman, and a woman who is enjoying it for way it is. Not just enduring it for the $$$ like a glorified whore.


Ah yes, the "she's only in it for the money" speech. How I love this line. Seriously, can we please stop beating a dead horse here?

But since it was said, I'm going to reciprocate with the horse beating response-do you expect a doctor, a lawyer or **insert any occupation here** to do anything for free? Do you think that **insert any occupation here** doesn't enjoy what they are doing and only in it for the money? What you are asking for is a business transaction for free. While there are doctors and lawyers who will offer their services for free, it's based on a case by case basis. Same applies to your kink. Either pay for it or hope that someone comes by that will take your case and give you what you want. Real simple stuff.


I'm a retired Pro-Domme. I'm also into this lifestyle and I have subs who do serve me on a non-professional level but they are few and far between because anyone who I am going to get into a personal D/s relationship is going to have to prove themselves well past our mutual interests. I want someone who is going to serve me entirely, not just with play but with making my life easier.

On a professional level, mutual interests and respect is still a requirement as well but tribute is required because these are men who are looking to skip the hard work and want the end result. They can't (or choose not to) build a personal D/s relationship, which is fine as long as they understand that we meet to engage in our kinks and they are paying for that time.

And I suppose that would put me in the "glorified whore" category but let's look at it this way: if it was all about money, I wouldn't have invested so much money and time (16 years) into my clothing, gear, dungeon, furniture, etc. Those who are just in it for the money tend not to spend their money on things that they don't enjoy.







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RE: Tributes etc. - 5/1/2017 12:25:18 AM   
heavyblinker


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Those who are just in it for the money tend not to spend their money on things that they don't enjoy.


No, but they still take money from people for doing things that they don't enjoy.

Even if what you really enjoy falls under the BDSM banner, you're still doing other things for the money... multiple posters have already made it clear that this is what is happening.

You can't really blame someone for wanting a partner whom they can be sure truly enjoys what they're doing... even if it isn't realistic to expect that from the majority of people, there's always going to be a whiff of deception and/or inauthenticity involved with pay-for-play.

Would the pro-domme pretend to get off on it? Would she be disgusted throughout? Bored? Annoyed? Is there even a possibility that she could be enjoying it? If she was enjoying it, how would he even know considering he is paying her and probably suspects that it's just part of the deal?

You can't blame someone for wanting to avoid this kind of baggage... even if it isn't realistic to do so.

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RE: Tributes etc. - 5/1/2017 2:25:18 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: MissKatya
Those who are just in it for the money tend not to spend their money on things that they don't enjoy.


No, but they still take money from people for doing things that they don't enjoy.

Even if what you really enjoy falls under the BDSM banner, you're still doing other things for the money... multiple posters have already made it clear that this is what is happening.

You can't really blame someone for wanting a partner whom they can be sure truly enjoys what they're doing... even if it isn't realistic to expect that from the majority of people, there's always going to be a whiff of deception and/or inauthenticity involved with pay-for-play.

Would the pro-domme pretend to get off on it? Would she be disgusted throughout? Bored? Annoyed? Is there even a possibility that she could be enjoying it? If she was enjoying it, how would he even know considering he is paying her and probably suspects that it's just part of the deal?

You can't blame someone for wanting to avoid this kind of baggage... even if it isn't realistic to do so.


Quick response:

"You can't really blame someone for wanting a partner whom they can be sure truly enjoys what they're doing."

He's not looking for a partner. He's looking for a business transaction for free.

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RE: Tributes etc. - 5/1/2017 2:54:11 AM   
heavyblinker


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ORIGINAL: MissKatya
He's not looking for a partner. He's looking for a business transaction for free.


If he was saying that those specific women should have done it for free, maybe I would agree... but it seems to me that the fact that they want money ruins it.

I think this is more a case of him looking for the BDSM equivalent of an NSA hookup sort of like Tinder or a sex club or something.

You're going to get a lot of nos with this sort of thing, but on the other hand, you only need one yes. I really can't imagine anyone looking at his profile pic and thinking that fulfilling his needs would be a turnon or amusing in any way, but it's a big world.

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RE: Tributes etc. - 5/1/2017 2:58:02 AM   
heavyblinker


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And OP... it might help if you did some situps or something. The spare tire and the saggy moobs are totally nasty and since you're not trying to build human connections, you should at least put effort into making yourself physically attractive. It looks like someone surgically inserted a fanny pack around your stomach.

I can actually see a woman getting turned on by controlling some anonymous buff guy with rock hard abs... but bossing around a flabby loser who posts pictures of himself online? Not so much.

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